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[FellowerOfOdin]

Truncated Flea wrote...

I just spent a month without internet because my provider is a pile of garbage and I'm unable to switch to another company. And in your eyes I should just not be allowed to play video games? Believe me, if I could have constantly working, reliable broadband, I would love to! Sadly it's just not available for me, and I live in the UK.

You just claimed that you had no friend you could go to in order to simply go online for a minute? Interesting.

[Maria Caliban]

AlanC9 wrote...

Seifz wrote...
There's no reason to require an Internet connection for a single-player game.  None.

Really? EA seems to think there's a reason. You're not actually saying that this is happening because some of their programmers just decided to screw with people out of sheer evilness, are you?

The truth will set you free.

[magicwins]

This is a reasonable system. I can deal with this.



Now if I could only find out whether this registration thingy would work through my proxy....

[Maria Caliban]

Do you have a copy of ME 1 or DA:O? Both of them used a similar system.

[Spawny]

@FellowerOfOdin : A matter of convenience, why should he/she have to pop over to a mates place to check in their DA2 game every time it's due? and crappy internet does happen and depending on where you are the choices vary. The last town I was in had 2 and very high fail rate.

Modifié par HagSpawn, 01 février 2011 - 09:59 .

[magicwins]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Do you have a copy of ME 1 or DA:O? Both of them used a similar system.

The computer I played DAO on did not have this proxy thingamajig. Direct internet connection. Unfortunately, I no longer have that copy of DAO with me and can't check.

[FellowerOfOdin]

HagSpawn wrote...

@FellowerOfOdin : A matter of convenience, why should he/she have to pop over to a mates place to check in their DA2 game every time it's due?  

To be able to play?

[magicwins]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

HagSpawn wrote...

@FellowerOfOdin : A matter of convenience, why should he/she have to pop over to a mates place to check in their DA2 game every time it's due?  

To be able to play?

LOL Now that's just mean

[FellowerOfOdin]

Not intended to be mean, just gave the correct answer. DA2 is going to have this DRM (fortunately!) and when you don't have internet at home and can't / do not want to visit a friend, you cannot play the game...end of the line.



You could also try to get into an open / WEP secured WLAN in your neighborhood, 1 minute is enough to re-login.

[Cheiron the Centaur]

- Each install requires logging in to your EA account to verify game ownership and if you are a member of these forums, you have an EA account.
- You can play offline but the game will require a login check after a select period of days.

One question... will I have to accept EA's privacy unfriendly User Agreement for this? Because that was the reason why I stopped playing DAO online... although fortunately that game is user friendly enough to be played entirely offline. (at the moment I have the disk-based PC version of DA2 on pre-order, but if this forces me to accept their user agreement, I may have to cancel after all...)

Modifié par Cheiron the Centaur, 01 février 2011 - 10:11 .

[magicwins]

I really don't get the point of all this DRM. Doesn't it get cracked anyhoo?

Or do they believe that they've found 'IT'! The mystery magical ingredient that will end hacking for all time!

<_<

Oh well.

[Lawliet89]

Well, most people don't seem  to have issues with Steamworks DRM so why not just make this game a Steamworks game that you can activate on Steam? Just a suggestion. Would be good it this is possible.

Modifié par Lawliet89, 01 février 2011 - 10:25 .

[McHoger]

magicwins wrote...

I really don't get the point of all this DRM. Doesn't it get cracked anyhoo?

Or do they believe that they've found 'IT'! The mystery magical ingredient that will end hacking for all time!

<_<

Oh well.

I imagine quiet a few sales are made by simply delaying the pirated version a week. Or even at least stopping day 0 piracy.

[Spawny]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

HagSpawn wrote...

@FellowerOfOdin : A matter of convenience, why should he/she have to pop over to a mates place to check in their DA2 game every time it's due?  

To be able to play?

wow golly gosh, really?
aside from you pointing out the obvious that we already get, that person was merely pointing out why it's a PITA in their case so yes, it did come across as mean though nothing to call the whambulance over.

[Marciel]

To put it bluntly:
I see no difference to the "disarmed" system from ubisoft(requires login every time you start,timer to revalidate), which is for me unacceptable.DA:O was acceptable because only the DLC was DRM(execpt for an Disk check).So i will hold off my sale unless Steam(where i don't havw to revalidate after x days) goes down with it's price(and it will go down).The only thing is, i will miss is the boxart/DVD boy from the retrail version.I really hope bioware will be a bit more trusting to it's paying costumer and use the DA:O system making no disk check optional(like dungeons).If i remember correctly, Bioware tried to use an revalidation after 10 days in Mass effect 1.People were very angry.Securom or not it' the same shameful method

Modifié par Marciel, 01 février 2011 - 10:31 .

[Lawliet89]

Marciel wrote...

To put it bluntly:
I see no difference to the "disarmed" system from ubisoft(requires login every time you start,timer to revalidate), which is for me unacceptable.DA:O was acceptable because only the DLC was DRM(execpt for an Disk check).So i will hold off my sale unless Steam(where i don't havw to revalidate after x days) goes down with it's price(and it will go down).The only thing is, i will miss is the boxart/DVD boy from the retrail version.I really hope bioware will be a bit more trusting to it's paying costumer and use the DA:O system making no disk check optional(like dungeons).If i remember correctly, Bioware tried to use an revalidation after 10 days in Mass effect 1.People were very angry.Securom or not it' the same shameful method

I believe Steam needs a "handshake" after a certain period of time. So it's not that different from the one they are using.

[ZerbanDaGreat1]

I'm just glad it won't lock me out for loading a game with DLC on it *shrug*

[magicwins]

McHoger wrote...

magicwins wrote...

I really don't get the point of all this DRM. Doesn't it get cracked anyhoo?

Or do they believe that they've found 'IT'! The mystery magical ingredient that will end hacking for all time!

<_<

Oh well.

I imagine quiet a few sales are made by simply delaying the pirated version a week. Or even at least stopping day 0 piracy.

Good point, but it rarely works that well. It is very difficult to make something that foxes the pirates but does not irritate customers excessively. Spore and AC2 are cases in point.

[ladydesire]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

HagSpawn wrote...

@FellowerOfOdin : A matter of convenience, why should he/she have to pop over to a mates place to check in their DA2 game every time it's due?  

To be able to play?

The more people accept "inconveniences" for the sake of being able to play a game, the more publishers will use those things in the future; I was on the fence about buying DA2, and this decision has more or less forced me to move the game from my "must-buy" list to my "maybe I'll buy it" list. Just because you don't have a problem with having to connect periodically doesn't mean it's something that everyone should like.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Personally, I'd rather have a disk check. I played DAO all the time off line and would only sign in to update achievements. If I wanted to sign into servers, I'd play an mmo.

[FDrage]

So what is the advantage to me as I only got 1 gaming pc and doesn't consider having no DVD in drive not necessary an advantage (aka I can easily live with a DVD in drive as I don't tend to play tooo many games parallel anyway)?

And why can't it be something like BFBC2 where you can chose which version you want?

Modifié par FDrage, 01 février 2011 - 11:19 .

[Unato]

Lawliet89 wrote...
I believe Steam needs a "handshake" after a certain period of time. So it's not that different from the one they are using.

it doesn't, well not from my experience, I installed steam for Portal in 2008. haven't been online on steam since I installed it ( heck I still have the old UI ) and my portal still works fine

[FellowerOfOdin]

ladydesire wrote...

The more people accept "inconveniences" for the sake of being able to play a game, the more publishers will use those things in the future; I was on the fence about buying DA2, and this decision has more or less forced me to move the game from my "must-buy" list to my "maybe I'll buy it" list. Just because you don't have a problem with having to connect periodically doesn't mean it's something that everyone should like.

I don't fully like the idea either. If I was a naive customer and piracy didn't exist, I'd happily go with no copy protection mechanism at all (which is, effectively, on the same security level as a simple disc check). Online copy protection is not the future, it's the present. If you are lost in the past, you are the one to blame. 

I happily embrace any sort of copy protection that does not stop me from enjoying the game. Ubisoft failed as their UbiLauncher requires a constant internet connection and thus can easily ruin your gaming experience - servers go down, you lose your save and have to play 15-30 minutes again? Now that sucks. 

Dragon Age 2 has the perfect solution. The vast majority will have absolutely zero problems with playing / registering the game and EA gets the security they want.

[ladyofpayne]

Thak you for not always need Internet. I have trouble with it.