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[HolyAvenger]

If you don't have Leliana already, and you refuse to give a tithe or ask for the Mother's blessing, is there anyway to Persuade (not Intimidate) her into giving you the key to Sten's cell? Because despite having two ranks in coercion and Cunning score of 21 or so (with the Dace amulet), I just can't get her to do it.

[Zjarcal]

You can always just pick the lock in his cell...

[HolyAvenger]

That would work if I was playing a rogue...keep that in mind for my next playthrough

[Xilizhra]

Why don't you have Leliana already?

[HolyAvenger]

Cause she's a nutter!











...because someone said it was funny to hear Alistair convince you to try and keep her at the second attempt.

[Zjarcal]

Well, you can always recruit Sten after the second Leli recruit scene.

EDIT: Though I find it strange that you weren't able to intimidate the priest. If I remember correctly you only needed one point in coercion for it. *think*

SECOND EDIT: The wiki (which is never reliable) doesn't mention how many points you need for the intimidate check, but it does mention you need two points to pass the persuade check if you offered a 30 silver tithe, so I assume you need three points with no tithe.

http://dragonage.wik...Qunari_Prisoner

Modifié par Zjarcal, 01 février 2011 - 12:48 .

[HolyAvenger]

Yes, I wanted to see if it could be done without Leli. I know I can intimidate her, Alistair jumps in and gets all "Whoaaaaaaa". I'm not RPng a character who tries to intimidate helpless old women though.



Yeah, had a look at that. Was wondering if anyone had actually done it without a tithe. Usually Persuade checks add your cunning score so thought that might've tipped me over the line. Ah well, I'll give the damn tithe.

[Zjarcal]

DUH!! I hadn't read the OP properly and didn't notice you said that you WEREN'T trying to intimidate her... 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 01 février 2011 - 01:13 .

[ejoslin]

If you gave her a big donation, you need 1 point in persuasion. If you gave her a small donation, you need 2 points in persuasion. If you are a cheap bastard, it takes 3 points

I don't know if the 30 silver tithe is considered a small or a large one for this purpose -- it's called "medium" but is figured into the persuade check. Probably nets you needing 2 points in coercion, however, as the "big donation" really is quite big.

Edit: Ok, reading the actual code, not the scripting comments, it works like this:

5 sovereign donation = 1 point persuasion
30 silver donation = 2 points persuasion
10 silver donation = 3 points persuasion
no donation = autofail

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 février 2011 - 01:29 .

[HolyAvenger]

ejoslin wrote...

Edit: Ok, reading the script code, not the scripting comments, it works like this:

5 sovereign donation = 1 point persuasion
30 silver donation = 2 points persuasion
10 silver donation = 3 points persuasion
no donation = autofail

Cool thanks. Can't believe no donation is an autofail...greedy Chantry bastards

[Zjarcal]

HolyAvenger wrote...
Cool thanks. Can't believe no donation is an autofail...greedy Chantry bastards

You find that surprising... it's the Chantry!

[HolyAvenger]

In effect Sten's life is worth 10 silver to 5 gold. Nice.

[ejoslin]

HolyAvenger wrote...

In effect Sten's life is worth 10 silver to 5 gold. Nice.

Well, though you don't want to, having Leliana is an autopass.  A threat just takes 1 point of coercion unless Leliana if repaired (yes, she has lines there as well) or Alistair are in the party -- then it's an autopass as well.

Edit: I totally ninja edited this... 

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 février 2011 - 02:29 .

[HolyAvenger]

Yeah, fair enough. Love the fact that you can threaten her in her own Chantry while her templars are right there without consequences (apart from Alistair's rep loss).



Next time, I'm picking the lock/stealing the key.

[mousestalker]

For lulz free Sten by picking the lock (added irony if you use Leliana for this) then take Sten with you to the Chantry to talk with the Revered Mother. Very entertaining.

[Giggles_Manically]

Can someone posts those lines?



I forgot to do that in my last game.

[wickedgoodreed]

Here you go, Giggles:





Revered Mother: You dare to bring that qunari here! Get him out! Out!

Sten: I sense I am unwanted.

Warden: What's the matter?

Revered Mother: This is intolerable! Leave at once!

-or-

Warden: I apologize. We will go.

Revered Mother: Thank you. We have enough troubles without having to face that creature again.

[ColaQueen]

So weird she doesn't go "err how did he get out of the cage?" or try to stop you from taking him since she hasn't said it's ok. Maybe it's meant to be dialogue you would get if you go into the Chantry with him after she allows you to release him? I never go into the Chantry again after that as far as I can remember or at least not with Sten.

[Elhanan]

Zjarcal wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...
Cool thanks. Can't believe no donation is an autofail...greedy Chantry bastards

You find that surprising... it's the Chantry!

Unless I am playing Anti-Chantry, I do not mind the donation, seeing as this location is indeed helping others.

[shatteredstar56]

SilverSentinel wrote...

So weird she doesn't go "err how did he get out of the cage?" or try to stop you from taking him since she hasn't said it's ok. Maybe it's meant to be dialogue you would get if you go into the Chantry with him after she allows you to release him? I never go into the Chantry again after that as far as I can remember or at least not with Sten.

She's so upset that you let the heathen out of his cage that it slipped her mind. I personally take Alister out of the party, and if the priest refuses to listen to reason, threaten her for both Morrigan's and my enjoyment.

[wickedgoodreed]

Elhanan wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...
Cool thanks. Can't believe no donation is an autofail...greedy Chantry bastards

You find that surprising... it's the Chantry!

Unless I am playing Anti-Chantry, I do not mind the donation, seeing as this location is indeed helping others.

Even though I'm not a big fan of the Chantry organization as a whole, at this local level, I agree.

I kind of feel bad for the revered mother.  Their bann abandoned them leaving her responsible for the welfare of the entire village. Meanwhile, a darkspawn horde descends upon them...And even though I love Sten, her reaction is understandable considering what he is in fact guilty of doing. Cut the poor woman some slack!

[nubbers666]

f the chantry those self rightous baf tards lmao personaly i despise the chantry

[HiroVoid]

HolyAvenger wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Edit: Ok, reading the script code, not the scripting comments, it works like this:

5 sovereign donation = 1 point persuasion
30 silver donation = 2 points persuasion
10 silver donation = 3 points persuasion
no donation = autofail

Cool thanks. Can't believe no donation is an autofail...greedy Chantry bastards

Well, it's not like they used the money for themselves at that particular point in time.  Considering they were about to be swarmed with darkspawn, it's obvious it was all going to helping people at the time.

[HolyAvenger]

HiroVoid wrote...
Well, it's not like they used the money for themselves at that particular point in time.  Considering they were about to be swarmed with darkspawn, it's obvious it was all going to helping people at the time.

And I need every red cent to end the friggen Blight.




I gave her money in my canon-nice playthrough.

[rosey1579]

Sometimes if you are a human noble, you can tell her you have the authority, or you could tell hell her you are a grey warden...