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kylecouch wrote...
bluewolv1970 wrote...
So the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT that Bioware felt the need to advertise with a flyer in DAA, was, infact, an announcement for a facebook game that virtually no one can play yet...wow...
Oh no it's better then that. The game was already announced weeks ago. What they announced today was the beta simply entered another stage of beta!
Brockololly wrote...
Eh, at least trying to explain the nature of the situation wouldn't be a terrible thing, IMO. Its the lack of communication thats annoying, as for months, the nature of the Awakening card was treated like it was some super secret thing worth keeping under wraps for close to a year when it seems to have been an announcement of a closed beta for a facebook game already in beta? And then letting the demo thread go crazy when they possibly knew there would be no demo today?
I mean, I don't know who would be in charge of releasing the info, but this stuff, combined with how the BioWare Bazaar announcement was handled, just makes it seem like the marketing is terribly aloof and out of touch with the expectations of the fans. You're not going to please everyone naturally, but I don't think you'll be finding many people fist pumping and cheering because the Awakening card was for a closed beta of a facebook game laready in beta. I mean, come on.
As much as I can understand the feelings behind this sentiment, and can see the reasoning behind it from a consumer's PoV... They are under an NDA, one which would lead to the loss of their jobs should they violate it in any way. These things are often many pages thick and I don't think it's fair to expect someone to take long hours of their limited free time reading up on the legalities of denying something to a relatively minute percentage of people who would have ever known about this "news"(If Mass Effect 2 sold 3 million at launch and the Bioware social have 10k, less then one half, of one percent of their total user base, and a very fanatical one half at that)Jzadek72 wrote...
KingDan97 wrote...
I find it funny how you all seem to think that Bioware has just made some royal mistake because a leaflet they put out a year ago, likely thinking Dragon Age 2 would be complete by then, or considering the promise of "two years of DLC content" it may even be announced or teased around this point.
But hey, clearly everyone is angry about this, because you're such an unbiased sample....
It would have been better to have merely stated that the leaflet was innaccurate as soon as this was realised then, rather than invent some excuse. To be honest, though, I'm more angered by the way they just left rumours of a demo circulate rather than explain it was a screw-up.
Was it you or someone who called everyone ingrates...The RustMonster wrote...
I'm not trying to insult anyone,
Modifié par werghu, 02 février 2011 - 01:06 .
Wynne wrote...
That is possible. I guess this might be basically an experiment?Jzadek72 wrote...
I don't dispute that. But this time, they have really screwed up, and the ME2 marketing wasn't too hot either. What I'm saying is that possibly (I'm not sure about my statement regarding marketing) EA should be considered the problem here, rather than Bioware.
Well, I don't think it worked very well. The timing feels all wrong to me. Maybe I'm wrong, though. It could be that the Facebook crowd will devour Legends quite happily. For me, though, it's not that big a deal. I would rather play Journeys and continue the storyline I already was interested in with a character I created.It's definitely different than their previous strategy. I find it... odd. I guess it's good that we're not getting pelted with spoilers, but I would like to know at least what Lady Hawke will sound like, if not who our LIs will be. I mean, with all the articles out there about how nobody markets to women gamers and how it's a big untapped market... it's like, WTF?Felfenix wrote...
We haven't heard femHawke's
voice nor do we know the characters. They keep saying we don't get that
it's a part of their "market strategy" but I don't think they get that
it's a pretty terrible marketing strategy.
Modifié par JFarr74, 02 février 2011 - 01:08 .
kylecouch wrote...
bluewolv1970 wrote...
So the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT that Bioware felt the need to advertise with a flyer in DAA, was, infact, an announcement for a facebook game that virtually no one can play yet...wow...
Oh no it's better then that. The game was already announced weeks ago. What they announced today was the beta simply entered another stage of beta!
The RustMonster wrote...
The Centurion wrote...
Vaelidor wrote...
HiroVoid wrote...
I would put this in my signature if I didn't feel like it would just be doing the same thing as those who are putting 02.01.11 just to troll people, and being an upset child. Awesome post anyway.The RustMonster wrote...
I hope people have learned their lessons today.
1) Don't hype yourselves up for something that's not promised to you.
2) Lack of denial of something is not the same thing as confirmation of something.
3) Sometimes there are bad announcements. That's when we act like adults, deal with it, and move on with our day.
Agreed.
Glad to know you are all above us in social ladder of life. Now, if you have nothing more productive about the feedback of the actual Bioware annoucement made today, please refrain from posting. Your criticisms of others is counter-productive to the purpose of this thread. Thank you.
I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'm just trying to get people to realize that they should be upset at themselves rather than BioWare. BioWare promised us one thing today: an announcement. They gave us one thing today: an announcement. I understand thinking the announcement kind of sucks, that's how I feel. But I don't blame BioWare for giving us something that doesn't live up to the hype that some members of the community built up over themselves. People being upset right now feel that they're entitled to something more than what they got, which I hate to say, but they aren't.
Modifié par Huntress, 02 février 2011 - 01:12 .
Anyone who has ever worked for a large company can tell you how this happened: no communication, nobody wanted to take responsibility.Saibh wrote...
Brockololly wrote...
Eh, at least trying to explain the nature of the situation wouldn't be a terrible thing, IMO. Its the lack of communication thats annoying, as for months, the nature of the Awakening card was treated like it was some super secret thing worth keeping under wraps for close to a year when it seems to have been an announcement of a closed beta for a facebook game already in beta? And then letting the demo thread go crazy when they possibly knew there would be no demo today?
I mean, I don't know who would be in charge of releasing the info, but this stuff, combined with how the BioWare Bazaar announcement was handled, just makes it seem like the marketing is terribly aloof and out of touch with the expectations of the fans. You're not going to please everyone naturally, but I don't think you'll be finding many people fist pumping and cheering because the Awakening card was for a closed beta of a facebook game laready in beta. I mean, come on.
That's fair. I do admit, I'd like to know the inner workings of why this was treated the way it was. But I just don't think it would solve anything. I just think it would validate my rage, and that's not helping the issue.
TJPags wrote...
They basically just told us that, a year ago, they made a decision to announce on a spcific date that they would be testing their FB game.
Yay?
Zombie Jory wrote...
good people are getting banned for no good reason without e-mails explaining..
This is very upsetting. Stick to your own rules. Things you dont like to hear bioware should not be considered "Spam"
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 02 février 2011 - 01:14 .
Seems that way.Zombie Jory wrote...
good people are getting banned for no good reason without e-mails explaining..
This is very upsetting. Stick to your own rules. Things you dont like to hear bioware should not be considered "Spam"
remember your e-mails to peaople you bann explaining them. People should have a right to know what they are getting banned for.
Modifié par kylecouch, 02 février 2011 - 01:16 .
marshalleck wrote...
Anyone who has ever worked for a large company can tell you how this happened: no communication, nobody wanted to take responsibility.
Siradix wrote...
Graider said it was going to be something cool, I suppose it's cool to those who work on the project.
:mellow:
Modifié par wulfsturm, 02 février 2011 - 01:18 .
Modifié par Revan312, 02 février 2011 - 01:20 .
Saibh wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
Anyone who has ever worked for a large company can tell you how this happened: no communication, nobody wanted to take responsibility.
This would be applicable if they didn't keep announcing that 02-01-2011 was some big, secret date. But they did. So someone decided something.
Modifié par marshalleck, 02 février 2011 - 01:21 .
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