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DA2 DEMO CONFIRMED 2/23! PC ONLY?, GAMESTOP EMPLOYEE TIMED EXCLUSIVE


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#3301
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DTKT wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Since it's wild, speculative theory week on the BSN. Here's mine:
The exclusivity mentioned in the Gamestop page isn't as specific as we're assuming, and is an exclusive window for participating retailers to have access to the demo of the game. That would explain why a Danish (I think) retailer had a "demo now" image, for example. They made the mistake of putting it out for the public when it was meant only for their employees, just like Gamestop. I would not be shocked if many retailers have similar deals and offers. Why? Because offering an employee exclusive to a single brick and mortar store makes absolutely no sense.
So what happened?
Retailers are offered an exclusive window PC demo to try out the game, ostensibly to give them advance information on the game to give to customers at the point of sale, or whatever. A Danish retailer messes up and posts an image part of this announcement on a public forum and the BSN explodes into a speculative fervor just in time for it to be coincidentally linked to the 2.1.11 announcement.
Bioware is now doubly screwed. If there had been no demo speculation, people would have been disappointed sure - not many around here seem to care much about Dragon Age: Legends. But would there have been the same amount of forum rage? I'm not sure. I wasn't one of the bigger ragers. They can't not announce DA:L, because hey, that was the plan. And they can't talk about the details of the retailer exclusive because it is subject to an NDA (hinted at in Gamestop's webpage signup) and not available to players for another three weeks anyway.
Who screwed up here?
Well, aside from the dubious decisions of Bioware marketing in the first place - which I don't really believe I'm in a position to personally criticize because I'm not in marketing, but hey, it doesn't seem to be working. The one who really tossed the gasoline onto the fire that is the BSN is the Danish retailer who screwed up and posted the image in the wrong place.
Now that's how I do my speculative, assumption based narratives. Booyakasha.


Here what I dont understand.

What does Gamestop wins in the deal? Sure, it's great that the employees can play the game but EA could have send a fact sheets about the game and it would have been the same thing. Its not an exclusive pre-order bonus or something...

Or the second thing. Why limit access till the 23 to a large portion of the playerbase? Dont you want to show the game to as many people as possible? Isnt the playerbase the actual target for marketing?

The wording in the Demo site is also awkward: In appreciation of your support of the Dragon Age franchise,

BioWare would like you to have early access to the Dragon Age 2 PC demo. This exclusive hands on access will allow you to experience one of the year's most anticipated titles before anyone else. With this early insight into Dragon Age 2's revised visceral combat, gripping story elements and enhanced visuals you will become a key source of knowledge for Gamestop customers and BioWare fans. Dgon Age 2 will be available on the PS3, Xbox 360, and PC on March 8, 2011.

Why release it on PC only? I know this isnt the preferred platform and it wont be the one selling the most...

This entire thing feels like a giant nightmare to me. Things unwrapped and spilled all over the place. Now, someone has to pick up the mess.


It's being done so the gamestop employee drones will promote/sex up/ talk up pre-orders of the game prior to it's released... "I played this game already, it's going to be awesome... you should totally pre-order this if you're in to RPGs."

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Brockololly wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Koffeegirl wrote...

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Ha- if you go to different internet forums, it would seem some Gamestops gave out the DA2 demo codes to consumers in ignorance. Sheesh

Can you link that? Because that's the only thing that would make this fiasco more epic

yes, pleaseshare the link


Oh, this is too epic to keep to yourself.  Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

Please share!!!!


Scroll down the page about half way down:

I'm not sure that they're keeping them to themselves, they gave me one today when I went in to buy a used Alpha Protocol.



Take that with a grain of salt.


Oh, this is so classic.  Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

How long until they're on ebay?  Posted ImagePosted Image

#3303
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Narrsan wrote...

I have 4
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And by "I" I mean not me.


Quick! Somebody zoom and enhance the reflection off the keyboard letters to see the code beneath the card!
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#3304
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JigPig wrote...

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A demo AND Sawyer? This is lovely end to this strange, strange day :wub:

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Narrsan wrote...

I have 4
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And by "I" I mean not me.

I assume he's off to e-bay.

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wulfsturm wrote...

You mean the Danish, Finnish, and Norwegian EA Newsletter sites. The newsletters were sent via e-mail and that is how this whole fiasco began.

Nothing to do with Danish retailers.


Then move where the mistake was made to EA's Scandinavian division, who misunderstood the terms of the demo, still, it does hurt the theory.

DTKT wrote...

Here what I dont understand.

What does Gamestop wins in the deal?


DTKT wrote...

Or the second thing. Why limit access till the 23 to a large portion of the playerbase?


DTKT wrote...

Why release it on PC only


Beats me.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 02 février 2011 - 04:29 .


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...Ok.



I'm now just highly confused. I'm not sure how any of this is helpful to marketing their game at all, but I'm gonna go with this is not exactly how they planned to announce this.



But still, wow, a day to remember indeed.

#3308
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GameMasterZX wrote...

...The 23rd? Um...that's a little bit...late... >_> Ah well, at least we're getting one. A week in advance is still enough time to try out the new mechanics and decide which class to play in the actual game.

That's actually about two weeks in advance, which seems just about right -- enough to generate hype, not enough for people to forget it even existed.

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WTF, WHAT ABOUT US IN THE CONSOLE?

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You people are hilarious. Office is never boring when the forumites are raving like mad.

#3311
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artsangel wrote...

Narrsan wrote...

I have 4
Posted Image
http://img98.imagesh...96617110434.jpg
And by "I" I mean not me.


Quick! Somebody zoom and enhance the reflection off the keyboard letters to see the code beneath the card!



I like how it says "Power to the players" <_<

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Melness wrote...

I don't understand all this 'oh, its pc only, I can't enjoy it at all'. You don't have a computer?

I have a comp, just not one that can play current gen games. Thats what my consoles are for, gaming.

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Narrsan wrote...

I have 4
Posted Image
http://img98.imagesh...96617110434.jpg
And by "I" I mean not me.


Ha- so the loyal BioWare consumers get the Bazaar and an announcement of a closed beta we already knew about, while Gamestop employees get something worth a damn. I almost feel bad for BioWare's marketing which seems totally asleep at the wheel.

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ulikestuff wrote...

DTKT wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Since it's wild, speculative theory week on the BSN. Here's mine:
The exclusivity mentioned in the Gamestop page isn't as specific as we're assuming, and is an exclusive window for participating retailers to have access to the demo of the game. That would explain why a Danish (I think) retailer had a "demo now" image, for example. They made the mistake of putting it out for the public when it was meant only for their employees, just like Gamestop. I would not be shocked if many retailers have similar deals and offers. Why? Because offering an employee exclusive to a single brick and mortar store makes absolutely no sense.
So what happened?
Retailers are offered an exclusive window PC demo to try out the game, ostensibly to give them advance information on the game to give to customers at the point of sale, or whatever. A Danish retailer messes up and posts an image part of this announcement on a public forum and the BSN explodes into a speculative fervor just in time for it to be coincidentally linked to the 2.1.11 announcement.
Bioware is now doubly screwed. If there had been no demo speculation, people would have been disappointed sure - not many around here seem to care much about Dragon Age: Legends. But would there have been the same amount of forum rage? I'm not sure. I wasn't one of the bigger ragers. They can't not announce DA:L, because hey, that was the plan. And they can't talk about the details of the retailer exclusive because it is subject to an NDA (hinted at in Gamestop's webpage signup) and not available to players for another three weeks anyway.
Who screwed up here?
Well, aside from the dubious decisions of Bioware marketing in the first place - which I don't really believe I'm in a position to personally criticize because I'm not in marketing, but hey, it doesn't seem to be working. The one who really tossed the gasoline onto the fire that is the BSN is the Danish retailer who screwed up and posted the image in the wrong place.
Now that's how I do my speculative, assumption based narratives. Booyakasha.


Here what I dont understand.

What does Gamestop wins in the deal? Sure, it's great that the employees can play the game but EA could have send a fact sheets about the game and it would have been the same thing. Its not an exclusive pre-order bonus or something...

Or the second thing. Why limit access till the 23 to a large portion of the playerbase? Dont you want to show the game to as many people as possible? Isnt the playerbase the actual target for marketing?

The wording in the Demo site is also awkward: In appreciation of your support of the Dragon Age franchise,

BioWare would like you to have early access to the Dragon Age 2 PC demo. This exclusive hands on access will allow you to experience one of the year's most anticipated titles before anyone else. With this early insight into Dragon Age 2's revised visceral combat, gripping story elements and enhanced visuals you will become a key source of knowledge for Gamestop customers and BioWare fans. Dgon Age 2 will be available on the PS3, Xbox 360, and PC on March 8, 2011.

Why release it on PC only? I know this isnt the preferred platform and it wont be the one selling the most...

This entire thing feels like a giant nightmare to me. Things unwrapped and spilled all over the place. Now, someone has to pick up the mess.


It's being done so the gamestop employee drones will promote/sex up/ talk up pre-orders of the game prior to it's released... "I played this game already, it's going to be awesome... you should totally pre-order this if you're in to RPGs."


This practice happens for some titles. Microsoft gave Best Buy employees the ability to take a quiz about Halo: Reach to get early access beta codes.

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NKKKK wrote...

WTF, WHAT ABOUT US IN THE CONSOLE?


Two-inch tall people trapped in plastic boxes have bigger issues.

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NKKKK wrote...

WTF, WHAT ABOUT US IN THE CONSOLE?


Sorry, aparently you're not worth EA's time.

Kind of reminds me about all of those recent AAA console-only demos that have come out, but I digress.

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Well, today was...interesting. I look forward to seeing what tomorrow brings.

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BIOWARE YOU REALLY NEED TO STEP UP ON YOUR MARKETING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT REALLY SUCKS DONKEY NUTS

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Ishouldnotbebanned wrote...

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Didn't expect to wake up to this. AWESOME. Not only is the demo REAL, it's PC only?! I love it.

I just wish I knew a gamestop employee, or was a gamestop employee. xD


Seriously??? really??? not only are you mocking the misfortune of other platforms, you're happy about the fact that BIOWARE is treating the company that will turn around and rip them off via used game sales better than their PAYING CUSTOMERS? 

You've got sheep written all over you.


No, I'm actually just glad that the demo was atleast real. Seriously, I don't think the fact that they're only giving it to Gamestop employees is something get so pissed over. It'll be released to us in time, don't get so worked up over it.

Modifié par Deremix4, 02 février 2011 - 04:33 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Narrsan wrote...

I have 4
Posted Image
http://img98.imagesh...96617110434.jpg
And by "I" I mean not me.


Ha- so the loyal BioWare consumers get the Bazaar and an announcement of a closed beta we already knew about, while Gamestop employees get something worth a damn. I almost feel bad for BioWare's marketing which seems totally asleep at the wheel.


Gamestop employees get 4 each?????  Posted Image

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I almost feel bad for Bioware right now. This whole gamestop demo thing just reeks of EA, and I bet the devs are none too happy about this info getting leaked right on top of the whole 2/1/11 thing AND the scandinaviann e-mail.s

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#3323
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NKKKK wrote...

WTF, WHAT ABOUT US IN THE CONSOLE?


Console peasants? Getting the glorious PC only demo? Surely you must be joking!

:lol:

All joking aside...they are primarily a PC developer. Always have been. :)

#3324
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You know what would be great? If BioWare gave demo codes to say, everyone with DAO registered on here for the 11th. That would be swell.

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Deremix4 wrote...

Ishouldnotbebanned wrote...

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Didn't expect to wake up to this. AWESOME. Not only is the demo REAL, it's PC only?! I love it.

I just wish I knew a gamestop employee, or was a gamestop employee. xD


Seriously??? really??? not only are you mocking the misfortune of other platforms, you're happy about the fact that BIOWARE is treating the company that will turn around and rip them off via used game sales better than their PAYING CUSTOMERS? 

You've got sheep written all over you.


No, I'm actually just glad that the demo was atleast real. Seriously, I don't think the fact that they're only giving it to Gamestop employees is something get so pissed over. It'll be released to us in time, don't get so worked up over it.

Agreed <_< people are being such big babies about it, my God