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[ObserverStatus]

welikedstuff wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

TJPags wrote...
Another dev post that ignores our questions.

I'm beyond baffled. . . . .

Yeah, it's almost like I have nothing to say on this subject. Strange, isn't it?

Is it not obvious that BIOWARE does not actually employ any PR people? Obviously they're too broke from giving out free pre-order DLC bonuses... oh... wait.....


Seriously stanley, it might be prudent to "get your manager" on the phone and figure out how to "handle" this situation because the silence is accomplishing NOTHING.

You're barking up the wrong tree.  Stanley Woo would give you the information if Bioware deemed the time to be appropriate.  Your whinining accomplishes nothing.

[Khayness]

Wow, I just realized what all the fuss is about.

In 2 months we will have a good laugh about it and everyone will be in the "zMG BioWare is the best!" puppy love stage.



I love this community. We put every bipolar emo scene teen to shame.

[Citizen Q]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
Yeah, it's almost like I have nothing to say on this subject. Strange, isn't it? It doesn't seem to have mattered a whit, really. Y'all don't really need any kind of official confirmation or discussion, y'all are riding the righteous indignation train pretty well on your own.

I'd be less baffled, and less indignant, if you would even flat out tell us, that you're not allowed to tell us.  I'm sure there's plenty you have to say, and can't.  Tell us that, and we'd likely calm down.

There's where most of the indignation in this thread is coming from, Stanley - what we percieve to be a lack of information.

Yes, yes, this! Can we please, please get something? If you can't talk about it, can you at least say that you can't talk about it?

.....and if you can't say that you can't say that you can't talk about it..... blink twice.

I'm pretty sure that saying
they "can't talk about it" could be constituted as violating the NDA
anyway.

Modifié par Citizen Q, 02 février 2011 - 04:48 .

[Deremix4]

My god. All this rage is getting annoying. It's just a demo, people. The game itself looks incredible, and we only have a month to go. BioWare has the right to do whatever they want with their products, I mean, it's not like the slaved over the game for over a whole year, maybe even almost two years, right? Oh no wait, they did do that.

They put all their hard work and time into this. Not you. Let them make the decisions.

Modifié par Deremix4, 02 février 2011 - 04:50 .

[evil bob the jagex cat]

WTF ea wants to stop used game sales so they make codes that u have to buy if you want to play mp on a used game then they turn right around and give codes for a demo to gamestop a store that sells used games really?

Modifié par evil bob the jagex cat, 02 février 2011 - 04:53 .

[TeamLexana]

Well pc only demo basically means no demo for me cuz I sincerly doubt my comp can handle it since it couldn't handle ME and that's fine cuz that's why I have the xbox and ps3, so I don't have to spend a crapload of extra cash a new computer everytime a new game comes out or if it does dain to play on what I have, it's only after spending 2 weeks downloading this patch and that patch while changing settings, resetting settings, sacrificing a chicken, dancing nekkid under the moon, lol, etc. etc.



I leave the gaming to the ps3 and xbox cuz I freaking know all I gotta do is pop the disk in and viola, it works, everytime, magic. What a concept.

[Saphara]

bobobo878 wrote...

welikedstuff wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

TJPags wrote...
Another dev post that ignores our questions.

I'm beyond baffled. . . . .

Yeah, it's almost like I have nothing to say on this subject. Strange, isn't it?

Is it not obvious that BIOWARE does not actually employ any PR people? Obviously they're too broke from giving out free pre-order DLC bonuses... oh... wait.....


Seriously stanley, it might be prudent to "get your manager" on the phone and figure out how to "handle" this situation because the silence is accomplishing NOTHING.

You're barking up the wrong tree.  Stanley Woo would give you the information if Bioware deemed the time to be appropriate.  Your whinining accomplishes nothing.

Id ignore this dude. Judging from his multiple account creations to work around a ban that was most likely deserved, he doesnt care about anything he deams "Bioware fanboism"

[evil bob the jagex cat]

im not mad because they did this i just think its odd but hey at least we get a demo

Modifié par evil bob the jagex cat, 02 février 2011 - 04:51 .

[Ex-Paladin]

Deremix4 wrote...

My god. All this rage is getting annoying. It's just a demo, people. The game itself looks incredible, and we only have a month to go. BioWare has the right to do whatever they want with their products, I mean, it's not like the slaved over the game for an entire year and even continuing on past a whole year, right? Oh no wait, they did do that.

They put all their hard work and time into this. Not you. Let them make the decisions.

I love you

[Citizen Q]

Deremix4 wrote...

My god. All this rage is getting annoying. It's just a demo, people. The game itself looks incredible, and we only have a month to go. BioWare has the right to do whatever they want with their products, I mean, it's not like the slaved over the game for an entire year and even continuing on past a whole year, right? Oh no wait, they did do that.

They put all their hard work and time into this. Not you. Let them make the decisions.

I Agree, as one could see by my avatar, I was all aboard the RAEG Train earlier today, but it is looking more and more like the devs really don't have much say / recourse in what is happening here. Lighten up. We have confirmed the demo ourselves, that SHOULD BE GOOD NEWS.

[onomatopisshead]

Stanley Woo wrote...

TJPags wrote...
Another dev post that ignores our questions.

I'm beyond baffled. . . . .

Yeah, it's almost like I have nothing to say on this subject. Strange, isn't it? It doesn't seem to have mattered a whit, really. Y'all don't really need any kind of official confirmation or discussion, y'all are riding the righteous indignation train pretty well on your own.

Thanks for adding the righteous indigntion bit.. at least you acknowledge we are rightous....


Honestly. You guys are a joke.

[Oblivious]

What I don't understand is why release it for the PC? That market has the lowest potential audience (even lower than DAO) since less and less PC's are capable of running current-gen games, even on super low settings. To make matters worse not everyone has a PC, I myself am using a Macbook Pro to type this, and Bioware hates Macs. I'd understand if it was a 360 or PS3 exclusive, I'd still be angry but I'd at least understand.

[John Epler]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
Yeah, it's almost like I have nothing to say on this subject. Strange, isn't it?

But... couldn't anyone have at least said that? Your off-handed comment "I have nothing to say" is the most we've heard over three days of wondering what's going on...

Without getting into the meat of this thread - as a publicly-traded company, we're very limited in what we can discuss. Not to mention there are very specific people whose job it is to discuss very specific issues - and this includes even something as seemingly-innocuous as 'I can't say anything about this'. 

Most of the people who post on these forums are developers who offered to lend a hand with moderation and the like. We can occasionally share tidbits and clarify things. Other than that, there are things we can and cannot talk about, and generally we like to leave the bulk of the community stuff to the appropriate people.

[OSUfan12121]

Lol I'm more confused at this point then angry.

[TJPags]

Citizen Q wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

TJPags wrote...
Another dev post that ignores our questions.

I'm beyond baffled. . . . .

Yeah, it's almost like I have nothing to say on this subject. Strange, isn't it? It doesn't seem to have mattered a whit, really. Y'all don't really need any kind of official confirmation or discussion, y'all are riding the righteous indignation train pretty well on your own.

I'd be less baffled, and less indignant, if you would even flat out tell us, that you're not allowed to tell us.  I'm sure there's plenty you have to say, and can't.  Tell us that, and we'd likely calm down.

There's where most of the indignation in this thread is coming from, Stanley - what we percieve to be a lack of information.

I'm pretty sure that saying they "can't talk about it" could be constituted as violating the NDA anyway.

That would be one hell of a strict NDA, and beyond any I've ever seen, except in instances which I can't disclose.

And saying that STILL does not violate the NDA's I've been involved in.

[upsettingshorts]

Oblivious wrote...

What I don't understand is why release it for the PC?

We don't know that the Feb 23 demo release will be PC only.  Only that the Gamestop exclusive demo is.  

It might be a reasonable assumption that the consumer release will likewise be PC only, but it's still an assumption.  

[Stanley Woo]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
Yeah, it's almost like I have nothing to say on this subject. Strange, isn't it?

But... couldn't anyone have at least said that? Your off-handed comment "I have nothing to say" is the most we've heard over three days of wondering what's going on...

We did say that... by not saying anything. We have nothing to say, so we didn't say anything. We didn't address certain issues, because we had nothing to say on those issues. You ask us questions about stuff. We don't answer, it means we have nothing to say on stuff.

I post here asking for people to follow our rules, it means I have something say as a Moderator whose job it is to keep the forums running smoothly. As a developer, i am much more restricted in what I can tell you, even more restricted on what I will tell you, as some folks have correctly pointed out.

[Citizen Q]

Oblivious wrote...

What I don't understand is why release it for the PC? That market has the lowest potential audience (even lower than DAO) since less and less PC's are capable of running current-gen games, even on super low settings. To make matters worse not everyone has a PC, I myself am using a Macbook Pro to type this, and Bioware hates Macs. I'd understand if it was a 360 or PS3 exclusive, I'd still be angry but I'd at least understand.

For the last time.....

There is  no confirmation that the demo released to the public will be PC only!

Modifié par Citizen Q, 02 février 2011 - 05:01 .

[XX-Pyro]

Oblivious wrote...

What I don't understand is why release it for the PC? That market has the lowest potential audience (even lower than DAO) since less and less PC's are capable of running current-gen games, even on super low settings. To make matters worse not everyone has a PC, I myself am using a Macbook Pro to type this, and Bioware hates Macs. I'd understand if it was a 360 or PS3 exclusive, I'd still be angry but I'd at least understand.

Even to a (primarily) PS3 user, this is wrong on so many levels. Either way, I thought BioWare said they had plans to release DA2 for the mac?

[Jimmy Fury]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
Whether or not its helpful isn't relevant to whether or not they've been cleared to comment. Or even have something to say in the first place.

Or if they even know the information people are asking. I've read my game credits and I'm inclined to believe Woo is very important in the testing and QA area... Thus probably not so well versed subjects like retailer-exclusive demos or questions like "Does your marketing department regularly employee rabid space koalas or is that an entirely new developement?"
He may very well be as baffled as the rest of us.

[onomatopisshead]

JohnEpler wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
Yeah, it's almost like I have nothing to say on this subject. Strange, isn't it?

But... couldn't anyone have at least said that? Your off-handed comment "I have nothing to say" is the most we've heard over three days of wondering what's going on...

Without getting into the meat of this thread - as a publicly-traded company, we're very limited in what we can discuss. Not to mention there are very specific people whose job it is to discuss very specific issues - and this includes even something as seemingly-innocuous as 'I can't say anything about this'. 

Most of the people who post on these forums are developers who offered to lend a hand with moderation and the like. We can occasionally share tidbits and clarify things. Other than that, there are things we can and cannot talk about, and generally we like to leave the bulk of the community stuff to the appropriate people.

Fascinating... Whomever those people are should be fired for severly misshandling customer relations.

[Phazor58]

Glad to see some Bioware folks have gotten into the discussion and are speaking frankly. None of Gaider's sarcasm, lol.

[slimgrin]

Oblivious wrote...

What I don't understand is why release it for the PC? That market has the lowest potential audience (even lower than DAO) since less and less PC's are capable of running current-gen games, even on super low settings. To make matters worse not everyone has a PC, I myself am using a Macbook Pro to type this, and Bioware hates Macs. I'd understand if it was a 360 or PS3 exclusive, I'd still be angry but I'd at least understand.

I don't understand why they release games for the pc at all. What a waste. Oh and by the way, what are you smoking? 

Modifié par slimgrin, 02 février 2011 - 04:54 .

[John Epler]

Keep it civil, folks, or this thread will be locked. We have no problem with you all discussing whatever you want to discuss, as long as it's kept civil and follows the Site Rules.

[Huntress]

They haven't said is ONLY PC.. you guys talk about people with poor English, BUT I can see you guys can't read.