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How powerful is the warp explosions?


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mgs00

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Never really tried it but I heard they were pretty good. If I put a
singularity out there or lifted someone and used warp would any
protected enemy get effected if they were in range??

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Yes. If you detonate an enemy being affected by either Pull, Singularity or Lift, it takes double damage and every enemy in the böast radius recieves the full damage of that warp variant. Non protected enemies will be tossed around and any enemy caught in the blast that is also affected by those biotics will take double damage too (but not set up another warp explosion (pity though, would be awesome if you could render like five enemies without defences, Area Pull them in the sky and the Unstable Warp them and watch four consecutive Warpexplosion go *BLAMM*)).

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Sort of related but I have a hard time warp exploding singularity is there a time limit ?

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Sort of related but I have a hard time warp exploding singularity is there a time limit ?


You must wait until the enemies caught up in the Singularity lose their defenses and get lifted in the air.

Warp bombs are extremely powerful.

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Low level singularity 'lift' duration barely exceeds its recharge time so if the target was instantly picked up you'd be very unlikely to hit it with Warp in time. Once you get the cooldown reduction and duration mods it gets easier though obviously.

Against a single enemy though you're probably better off using Throw to launch it even higher.

Modifié par Evilsod, 01 février 2011 - 03:43 .


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If you go by the forum chatter, a single warp bomb will kill everything on the whole mission and injure guys on the next mission you happen to take.



In my experience (on insanity), it's almost useless. The AoE (even with unstable) is so small you won't catch anything but those stupid humanoid (LOKI?) robots who bunch up and shuffle at you and it's blocked by cover too even if they are close enough it might not get them anyway. The damage is low enough that (depending on your lvl of course, since everything levels up with you) you will only take off maybe half a nearby enemies protection, and sometimes won't even kill the guy you explode. It's much, much better overall to just shoot the guy 2 - 3 times and finish him (hooray double damage from being ragdolled) and save the GCD to warp the next chump's armor.



That said, it is pretty funny when it works on the LOKI robots since it sends them flying pretty far at max level.

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I'm currently doing an Insanity Adept for kicks (my third time through with an Adept, 2nd time for Insanity the entire way through (the first time I started on Normal but ended on Insanity because guys died too quickly otherwise)). I find Heavy Warp bombing to be the best way to take out groups of guys, not because it kills everything in the mission (as the previous poster suggests), but because it strips all, or most, of the defenses of any nearby enemies. My favorite thing to do is launch the Warp and, while it's in transit, have Jack/Samara/Jacob tag the enemy with a pull so that they get bombed almost the second they lift off the ground. The fact that it rag dolls unprotected enemies is also very nice.

One other thing to note is that the Warp will do double damage to any nearby enemy that is also under the effects of Pull or Singularity. To this end, Warp bombs are extremely effective for the LotSB parking lot, provided you have an Overload/Area Energy Drain available to drop the enemies' shields while they are landing.

Modifié par kstarler, 01 février 2011 - 08:01 .


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My experience has been better than BurnedToast's. I usually go with heavy warp because while unstable catches more it does not seem to drop defenses of targets. Heavy is a 5 meter radius which usually means I get anywhere from an extra 1 to 3 targets in the AoE. With heavy it will usually drop anyone's defenses who are caught in the explosion. Depending on your style that may or may not be worth it. Usually for me though I strip defenses with a squad mate, area pull or singularity, hit them with a warp if shielded targets are nearby otherwise throw them. Sometimes though and here I think it is always worth it, I am not using my squadies much, singularity, gun fire to drop defenses, warp bomb to drop a groups defenses. Now I go to pull and throw.

Edit to add don't take our word for it or BurnedToast's word that it sucks hit youtube there are plenty of warp bomb videos, see for yourself how much damage it does. 

Modifié par Ahglock, 01 février 2011 - 08:05 .


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If you go by the naysayers, a single warp bomb is about as powerful as two shots from your weapon, or even less if you can kill an enemy at health with only one.

In my experience (on insanity), it's very handy. The AoE (especially with unstable) is large enough that you can often catch another enemy in the blast. On particularly crowded levels, you can hit quite a few. Even if the bomb doesn't hit anyone else, the target usually dies or gets very close to it, often much faster than if you'd just shot at it and definitely safer. As you set the bomb up, you actually cc an opponent, so that's one less gun shooting at you. After the bomb, many times the nearby enemies will be knocked prone as well, which is a plus. There's a time for it and it's not always the answer, though.

That said, it is a lot of fun to clear Collector platforms with a single bomb.

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tangmcgame wrote...

If you go by the naysayers, a single warp bomb is about as powerful as two shots from your weapon, or even less if you can kill an enemy at health with only one.
In my experience (on insanity), it's very handy. The AoE (especially with unstable) is large enough that you can often catch another enemy in the blast. On particularly crowded levels, you can hit quite a few. Even if the bomb doesn't hit anyone else, the target usually dies or gets very close to it, often much faster than if you'd just shot at it and definitely safer. As you set the bomb up, you actually cc an opponent, so that's one less gun shooting at you. After the bomb, many times the nearby enemies will be knocked prone as well, which is a plus. There's a time for it and it's not always the answer, though.
That said, it is a lot of fun to clear Collector platforms with a single bomb.


What you did there:
I see it.

Warp Bombs are pretty deadly. Even without 5/5 biotic damage upgrades I had Miranda warp bombing Collectors and stripping most of the extra targets' defenses with Unstable Warp. An Adept or Sentinel Shepard is going to invest more heavily in Biotic upgrades and their class powers (and armor) can provide a substancial power damage bonus (Miranda's does not do this), making Shepard's own warp bombs even more effective than a squadmate's.

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I thought warp bombs were pretty weak at first. Then I got some serious upgrades after Horizon and suddenly warp bombs were insanely good. It's easy to miss how good some biotics are simply because you don't get significant biotic upgrades until after Horizon.

I didn't use them as well in the beginning either. Also had this idea that while Singularity is draining someone's defenses, that means I can warp bomb them. Wrong.

Modifié par termokanden, 03 février 2011 - 10:10 .


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JohnnyBeGood2

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"How powerful ARE the warp explosions?"
For a forum thread try to work that grammar with some measure of care. Can you expect literate and/or intelligent answers if you don't? Are we expected to hop in the sack with your bad English and interact with you knowing that you probably won't engage meaningfully because you wouldn't understand the English anyway ??

Modifié par JohnnyBeGood2, 03 février 2011 - 10:28 .


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JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

"How powerful ARE the warp explosions?"
For a forum thread try to work that grammar with some measure of care. Can you expect literate and/or intelligent answers if you don't? Are we expected to hop in the sack with your bad English and interact with you knowing that you probably won't engage meaningfully because you wouldn't understand the English anyway ??


who the f*uck cares about sh*it like this?  there's your good grammer right there

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mgs00 wrote...

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

"How powerful ARE the warp explosions?"
For a forum thread try to work that grammar with some measure of care. Can you expect literate and/or intelligent answers if you don't? Are we expected to hop in the sack with your bad English and interact with you knowing that you probably won't engage meaningfully because you wouldn't understand the English anyway ??


who the f*uck cares about sh*it like this?  there's your good grammer right there


You still need to work on capitalization.

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BurnedToast

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You spelled grammar wrong too. The post you quoted spelled it correctly so you don't even have an excuse.

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termokanden

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You're right about that. He made a small mistake. Of course anyone who is as good at English as you all undoubtedly are would understand the question just fine anyway.



I have been away from the Mass Effect forums for a while. I don't remember them being this hostile.

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termokanden wrote...

You're right about that. He made a small mistake. Of course anyone who is as good at English as you all undoubtedly are would understand the question just fine anyway.

I have been away from the Mass Effect forums for a while. I don't remember them being this hostile.


I've been here all along, and it does not happen very often.  I don't understand what the deal is.  Some folks are not native english speakers, some input from smart phones that "autocorrect" your spelling and give you the wrong words, and some people don't care that much about spelling ( there is no spelling checker on these posts ).  I sometimes have problems with the nvm, and ftw, etc shorthand that I have to look up.  Sinosleep once used "merked" and I had to look it up in the urban dictionary.

I think the OP was clear enough, and it was a good question.

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Warp explosions aren't weak..