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[EmperorSahlertz]

Addai67 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

THe templars refered to in the Dalish codex entry isn't sent in before the Exalted March, it IS the Exalted March. At no time did the Chantry try and force their faith on the Dalish. They had sent Missionaries, yes. But that is not a forceful conversion. They actually let the Dalish make their own choice on wether to believe or not. When the Elder Dalish realized their own faith was dying they kicked out the Missionaries. This caused tensions to rise, and culminated in the Exalted March, and thus Templars being sent in.

And that doesn't equate to trying to force Andrastianism on them?  Only a lawyer could make that argument.  Who says they should be forced to allow Chantry missionaries- or any humans-  in their midst?

They weren't a forced presence in the Dales. Actually the Dalish leaders were teh ones trying to force their own people NOT to listen to the chant. They are the real oppressers in this case.

[LobselVith8]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

THe templars refered to in the Dalish codex entry isn't sent in before the Exalted March, it IS the Exalted March. At no time did the Chantry try and force their faith on the Dalish. They had sent Missionaries, yes. But that is not a forceful conversion. They actually let the Dalish make their own choice on wether to believe or not. When the Elder Dalish realized their own faith was dying they kicked out the Missionaries. This caused tensions to rise, and culminated in the Exalted March, and thus Templars being sent in.

And that doesn't equate to trying to force Andrastianism on them?  Only a lawyer could make that argument.  Who says they should be forced to allow Chantry missionaries- or any humans-  in their midst?

They weren't a forced presence in the Dales. Actually the Dalish leaders were teh ones trying to force their own people NOT to listen to the chant. They are the real oppressers in this case.

That must be why the Chantry of Andraste made it illegal for the elves of the Alienage to worship their gods after the Exalted March against the Dales, and forced them to worship the Maker.

[EmperorSahlertz]

That was after the Exalted Marches. The Dalish proved to the Chantry, that the old faith was incompatible with the Andrastian society. If the leaders of the Dales had just let their people make their own choice, much could ahve been avoided.

And they don't force anyone to worship the maker. They made the old faith illegal, because it would only breed discontent, and possibly even rebellion, but no one is forced to believe in the maker. If the Elves don't want to, they are free not to.

[LobselVith8]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

That was after the Exalted Marches. The Dalish proved to the Chantry, that the old faith was incompatible with the Andrastian society. If the leaders of the Dales had just let their people make their own choice, much could ahve been avoided.

You have nothing to indicate that it was during the Exalted Marches. The codex is written to indicate that the templars came in after the missionaries were sent out.

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

And they don't force anyone to worship the maker. They made the old faith illegal, because it would only breed discontent, and possibly even rebellion, but no one is forced to believe in the maker. If the Elves don't want to, they are free not to.

The Chantry forced the elves to worship the Maker and made it illegal to worship the elven gods in the Alienage. That's why the Dalish refused to submit and became wanderers, instead.

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

THe templars refered to in the Dalish codex entry isn't sent in before the Exalted March, it IS the Exalted March. At no time did the Chantry try and force their faith on the Dalish. They had sent Missionaries, yes. But that is not a forceful conversion. They actually let the Dalish make their own choice on wether to believe or not. When the Elder Dalish realized their own faith was dying they kicked out the Missionaries. This caused tensions to rise, and culminated in the Exalted March, and thus Templars being sent in.

You realize that the Dales codex makes no reference as to when the templars were sent in, correct? There's no reason to claim that the templars were sent in during the Exalted March against the Dales when they could have been sent in before, which makes sense since the codex references templars coming in after the missionaries were kicked out.

In Exile wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
If mages are so dangerous, why didn't the first Emperor of Orlais, who created the Circle of Magi, the Order of Templars, and the Chantry of Andraste, segregate mages immediately? In fact, let's examine why mages are segregated in modern day Thedas by looking at the incident that caused it in the first place. Let's examine the History of the Circle codex, written in Of Fires, Circles, and Templars: A History of Magic in the Chantry, by Sister Petrine, Chantry scholar.:

- snip-

Despite that it's pro-Chantry and has a pro-templar bias, there's no reference to blood mages or abominations as the reason mages are segregated. A nonviolent protest doesn't seem like a sufficient reason to segregate all mages to me. Maybe the people of Rivain, the Dalish clans, and the Chasind have the right idea about not spreading anti-mage dogma and letting mages live alongside non-mages.

I don't see your point. The segregation of mages isn't the issue here - that's just implementation, which as I said is debatable. Mages were heavily restricted (movement wise, etc.) and the kind of magic they could do was also heavily restricted (light fires). This heavy repression was met with a protest that people recognized to be a result of unreasonable policy and actually went so far as to find a compromise that allowed mages more freedom re: the practice of their magic.

If anthing, this narrative shows the Chantry as being quite willing to work with mages.

They aren't heavily restricted - they're imprisoned. The Magi Origin VO refers to it as a prison. They have no rights to have relationships or marry in some Circles, they can't raise their own children, they can be given a lobotomy or killed if they're accused of being maleficarum and the First Enchanter has no right to see the "evidence" that's in question (Magi Origin).

You also referenced the History of the Circle codex and blatantly ignored that Divine Ambrosia II wanted to declare an Exalted March on her own cathedral.

The Chantry segregated mages - where they have no rights, no families, and no future except as a prisoner of the Chantry, outside of becoming a Grey Warden of course.

XxDeonxX wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

The Warden-Commander has no say over the Chantry or the templars, any more than the nobility or even the ruler of the nation does (just see the Gaider comment about the Magi boon for an example).

Give them reason where none Exists? Maleficarum seems a pretty good reason to me

If they're after her because she's maleficarum, why are they labelling her as a blood mage and not a maleficar? Still haven't heard the answer to that - because there is none. No proof? No problem for the templars.

XxDeonxX wrote...

There is a big difference between being a warden and just simply associating with one, Because Morrigan Associated with the wardens doesn't protect her from the chantry. The Right of Conscription should protect Anders however as like the woman trying to get anders says. The Wardens have always been a safe havan for Maleficar and Apostates.

Maybe that's what the Warden-Commander claims since that codex is only avaliable for the Orlesian Warden. However, going after someone who helped save the world is in poor taste, especially when you have no proof against them.

XxDeonxX wrote...

If the Chantry had the real authority to do something about it, they would. I know The Warden commander has no say over chantry business. But he still knows  most things that will happen in his lands. If someone is moving Cargo (the phylacteries), His scouts will report it to him He will find out if they are moving them. But they aren't really moving phylacteries through his lands so that is why the revered mother of Amaranthine  wouldn't know about it.. Because it isn't happening.

He has no way of knowing about business that happened prior to his arrival in Amaranthine unless he has telepathy, and since the Chantry isn't regulated by the Crown or the Wardens, there's no reason the Commander of the Grey would know unless he had spies in the Order of Templars or the Chantry of Andraste.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 03 février 2011 - 07:00 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

LobselVith8 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

That was after the Exalted Marches. The Dalish proved to the Chantry, that the old faith was incompatible with the Andrastian society. If the leaders of the Dales had just let their people make their own choice, much could ahve been avoided.

You have nothing to indicate that it was during the Exalted Marches. The codex is written to indicate that the templars came in after the missionaries were sent out.

Incidently, the Exalted March also happened after that event.

LobselVith8 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

And they don't force anyone to worship the maker. They made the old faith illegal, because it would only breed discontent, and possibly even rebellion, but no one is forced to believe in the maker. If the Elves don't want to, they are free not to.

The Chantry forced the elves to worship the Maker and made it illegal to worship the elven gods in the Alienage. That's why the Dalish refused to submit and became wanderers, instead.

Again. Yes, the outlawed the Dalish religion. No. They did not force the Andrastian faith on them. It is totally the Elves own choice wether or not to believe in the Maker. They just aren't allowed to practice their old faith.

LobselVith8 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

THe templars refered to in the Dalish codex entry isn't sent in before the Exalted March, it IS the Exalted March. At no time did the Chantry try and force their faith on the Dalish. They had sent Missionaries, yes. But that is not a forceful conversion. They actually let the Dalish make their own choice on wether to believe or not. When the Elder Dalish realized their own faith was dying they kicked out the Missionaries. This caused tensions to rise, and culminated in the Exalted March, and thus Templars being sent in.

You realize that the Dales codex makes no reference as to when the templars were sent in, correct? There's no reason to claim that the templars were sent in during the Exalted March against the Dales when they could have been sent in before, which makes sense since the codex references templars coming in after the missionaries were kicked out.

You realize that very same codex makes NO MENTION AT ALL about the Exalted March, correct? And is biased to hell back. At least the Chantry historians tries to be objective, and even admits they don't have the whole picture. The Dalish don't even care. No. The Templars, mentioned in that entry, is a refrence to the Exalted March.

[LobselVith8]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Incidently, the Exalted March also happened after that event.

You lack proof that the templars were only sent in after the Exalted March.

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Again. Yes, the outlawed the Dalish religion. No. They did not force the Andrastian faith on them. It is totally the Elves own choice wether or not to believe in the Maker. They just aren't allowed to practice their old faith.

The Chantry did force it on them. No different than when Native Americans were taken and forced to convert. That's why all the elves of the Alienage now worship the Maker and can only be married by the Chantry.

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

You realize that very same codex makes NO MENTION AT ALL about the Exalted March, correct? And is biased to hell back.

It's from their POV. You dislike it because you favor the Chantry. You also relegated mages to being "Chantry property," so I don't see the point in this debate since you can't prove it happened after the Exalted March was declared.

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

At least the Chantry historians tries to be objective, and even admits they don't have the whole picture. The Dalish don't even care. No. The Templars, mentioned in that entry, is a refrence to the Exalted March.

That's funny - your claim that the Chantry historians try to be objective. That must be why Genitivi refers to humans as the masters of Thedas and the condescending way that the mages are written about in the History of the Circle codex.

[Addai]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

THe templars refered to in the Dalish codex entry isn't sent in before the Exalted March, it IS the Exalted March. At no time did the Chantry try and force their faith on the Dalish. They had sent Missionaries, yes. But that is not a forceful conversion. They actually let the Dalish make their own choice on wether to believe or not. When the Elder Dalish realized their own faith was dying they kicked out the Missionaries. This caused tensions to rise, and culminated in the Exalted March, and thus Templars being sent in.

And that doesn't equate to trying to force Andrastianism on them?  Only a lawyer could make that argument.  Who says they should be forced to allow Chantry missionaries- or any humans-  in their midst?

They weren't a forced presence in the Dales. Actually the Dalish leaders were teh ones trying to force their own people NOT to listen to the chant. They are the real oppressers in this case.

Any elf who wants to become an Andrastian could go to an alienage.  Social pressure =/ oppression at the tip of a sword.

You can say that the Exalted Marches weren't only based on religious zealotry, but they certainly used religious zealotry as part of their call to war.  Whereas I don't see any Dalish calling for wars on humans to compel them to become followers of the elven pantheon, do you?

[Addai]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

That was after the Exalted Marches. The Dalish proved to the Chantry, that the old faith was incompatible with the Andrastian society. If the leaders of the Dales had just let their people make their own choice, much could ahve been avoided.

Why should they be compatible with Andrastian society?  They want their own society and to be left alone.

It's certainly possible that Arlathan was the aggressor or somehow brought their fate on themselves, and that may even be true of the Dales, but as we see matters during game time, it is the Chantry who are the aggressors.

And they don't force anyone to worship the maker. They made the old faith illegal, because it would only breed discontent, and possibly even rebellion, but no one is forced to believe in the maker. If the Elves don't want to, they are free not to.

Obviously you don't see that you're completely contradicting yourself?  They don't compel anyone to worship the Maker, they just outlaw all other religions... and that's religious freedom in your view?

[Augustei]

But there could be proof against Morrigan.. Not about being a blood mage sure, But about being a Maleficar. She was a shapeshifter, people would have seen her shapeshift during the blight reported it to the templars and with all these reports coming in about these women, they would have pieced 2 and 2 togeather to determine she is said Maleficar. Regardless of what the journal entry says about her being a Blood Mage, She is a Maleficar and that is reason for them to hunt her.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 03 février 2011 - 07:34 .

[Augustei]

Certain members of both the chantry and the dalish both admit that there is lost infomation about the war and both sides have more reasons then are clear. Do not base the way a people think on the word of a few scholars or Elven Clansman There are idiots amongst both that will just accept whatever they are told

The Mage situation is a good reason to dislike the chantry. The elven situation is alot more difficult. The war against the dales cannot be held against the chantry... yet due to lack of real non bias evidence. The war is not the problem, it is the events that followed the war the forbidding them from worship of their original gods.

The alienages however is more a concern for the Monarchs. Not the chantry, as they are the managers of their cities and peoples. They are the ones who pass the laws regarding things more relatable

And damn Im tired.. Im gonna have a break for a few hours, need to eat, walk dog etc. Be back later =D

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 03 février 2011 - 07:41 .

[LobselVith8]

XxDeonxX wrote...

But there could be proof against Morrigan.. Not about being a blood mage sure, But about being a Maleficar. She was a shapeshifter, people would have seen her shapeshift during the blight reported it to the templars and with all these reports coming in about these women, they would have pieced 2 and 2 togeather to determine she is said Maleficar. Regardless of what the journal entry says about her being a Blood Mage, She is a Maleficar and that is reason for them to hunt her.

There's no proof she's a blood mage, and that's what the templars labelled her as in Witch Hunt. They're putting a bounty on her because they suspect she's a blood mage. No different than when they killed the Magnificent D'Sims because they thought he was a mage who healed people, and then cut off his head.

XxDeonxX wrote...

Certain members of both the chantry and the dalish both admit that there is lost infomation about the war and both sides have more reasons then are clear. Do not base the way a people think on the word of a few scholars or Elven Clansman There are idiots amongst both that will just accept whatever they are told

You're confusing Arlathan with the Dales. The Dalish refused to submit to human rule and became nomads, refusing to give up their old ways and their ways. We're also talking about Orlais, here - the same nation that occupied Ferelden and was supported by the Chantry of Andraste.

XxDeonxX wrote...

The Mage situation is a good reason to dislike the chantry. The elven situation is alot more difficult. The war against the dales cannot be held against the chantry... yet due to lack of real non bias evidence. The war is not the problem, it is the events that followed the war the forbidding them from worship of their original gods.

It can if the Chantry was responsible for sending in templars to force conversion.

XxDeonxX wrote...

The alienages however is more a concern for the Monarchs. Not the chantry, as they are the managers of their cities and peoples. They are the ones who pass the laws regarding things more relatable

The elves are forbidden from worshipping the old gods and were forced to convert to the Chantry of Andraste.

[Augustei]

LobselVith8 wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

But there could be proof against Morrigan.. Not about being a blood mage sure, But about being a Maleficar. She was a shapeshifter, people would have seen her shapeshift during the blight reported it to the templars and with all these reports coming in about these women, they would have pieced 2 and 2 togeather to determine she is said Maleficar. Regardless of what the journal entry says about her being a Blood Mage, She is a Maleficar and that is reason for them to hunt her.

There's no proof she's a blood mage, and that's what the templars labelled her as in Witch Hunt. They're putting a bounty on her because they suspect she's a blood mage. No different than when they killed the Magnificent D'Sims because they thought he was a mage who healed people, and then cut off his head.

XxDeonxX wrote...

Certain members of both the chantry and the dalish both admit that there is lost infomation about the war and both sides have more reasons then are clear. Do not base the way a people think on the word of a few scholars or Elven Clansman There are idiots amongst both that will just accept whatever they are told

You're confusing Arlathan with the Dales. The Dalish refused to submit to human rule and became nomads, refusing to give up their old ways and their ways. We're also talking about Orlais, here - the same nation that occupied Ferelden and was supported by the Chantry of Andraste.

XxDeonxX wrote...

The Mage situation is a good reason to dislike the chantry. The elven situation is alot more difficult. The war against the dales cannot be held against the chantry... yet due to lack of real non bias evidence. The war is not the problem, it is the events that followed the war the forbidding them from worship of their original gods.

It can if the Chantry was responsible for sending in templars to force conversion.

XxDeonxX wrote...

The alienages however is more a concern for the Monarchs. Not the chantry, as they are the managers of their cities and peoples. They are the ones who pass the laws regarding things more relatable

The elves are forbidden from worshipping the old gods and were forced to convert to the Chantry of Andraste.

I know they say she is a bloodmage but im saying regardless of whether or not she is a blood mage, She is a Maleficar and it is highly possible the chantry could find out she is a Maleficar. I know it says she is a blood mage though. Anyway, this is not me providing an excuse or anything but it is possible that the default morrigan for Orlesian warden is that he secondary specialisation was in fact Blood mage.

No Im referring to the dales. I dont think Arlathan was justified in the
slightest. But The Dalish storyteller in their camp says that they dont
know much of that time and he doubts the Humans would invade without
reason

Indeed it can be the chantry was responsable.. But we just dont know that at this time so we cannot make that claim.

Yeah I mentioned that in the post. Them being forbidden is the chantrys problem. The Alienages however are not the Chantrys problem

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 03 février 2011 - 08:58 .

[LobselVith8]

XxDeonxX wrote...

I know they say she is a bloodmage but im saying regardless of whether or not she is a blood mage, She is a Maleficar and it is highly possible the chantry could find out she is a Maleficar.

You mean after they've already placed a bounty on her life? The fact that they can put a contract on someone's life for their suspicions is a problem I have with the Chantry of Andraste and the Order of the Templars. There's really nothing to indicate to any witnesses that Morrigan practices blood magic, but based on assumption alone, the templars will put out a contract on her life.

XxDeonxX wrote...

I know it says she is a blood mage though. Anyway, this is not me providing an excuse or anything but it is possible that the default morrigan for Orlesian warden is that he secondary specialisation was in fact Blood mage.

No reason provided in canon for the templars hunting her down because they assume she's a blood mage, though. And the only difference between the Warden-Commander and the Orlesian Warden is the absense of the Commander of the Grey - it's not like when Herrin was made a Desire Demon in TDC because it was an AU.

XxDeonxX wrote...

No Im referring to the dales. I dont think Arlathan was justified in the slightest. But The Dalish storyteller in their camp says that they dont know much of that time and he doubts the Humans would invade without
reason

Indeed it can be the chantry was responsable.. But we just dont know that at this time so we cannot make that clame.

I agree that we don't really know. I think it's intentional. The same way that codex enries are biased based on who has written them.

XxDeonxX wrote...

Yeah I mentioned that in the post. Them being forbidden is the chantrys problem. The Alienages however are not the Chantrys problem

Except Orlais and the Chantry are connected because the Orlesian Empire is where the Chantry of Andraste originated and resides, and even outside of Orlais (like Ferelden), the elves are forced to live in Alienages - which speaks more toward the Chantry and its control over Andrastian nations than it does toward Orlais.

[Augustei]

Sure you could say Orlais and the chantry are essentially the same, But they aren't. They have different rulers and authority figures. They simply share similar intrests.
The Chantry have organised positions over many things, even political. It is probably because of the chantry that the elves live in alienages today. But it is not their concern.

The Chantry has political and millitant control among other things. But the organisation of lands and where people live is an issue for the Monarchy and not the chantry So to improve the alienages, or even give the elves more rights and lands it is up to the Monarchies of Thedas to do this and not the chantry

P.S Brother Genitivi is an idiot.. Just thought I'd throw that in, even though its not really related to what you said =D

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 03 février 2011 - 09:03 .

[Augustei]

LobselVith8 said...

No reason provided in canon for the templars hunting her down because they assume she's a blood mage, though. And the only difference between the Warden-Commander and the Orlesian Warden is the absense of the Commander of the Grey - it's not like when Herrin was made a Desire Demon in TDC because it was an AU.

Not referring to Lore here, But I mean when making a Orlesian warden it has defaults set for Origins. Such as Alistair was made King etc. Maybe another one of these defaults was that Morrigans secondary specialisation was actually Blood mage.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 03 février 2011 - 09:06 .

[Augustei]

Im starting to think that if you cut away the divine, and the Templars. Then the Chantry is a good order.

[LobselVith8]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Sure you could say Orlais and the chantry are essentially the same, But they aren't. They have different rulers and authority figures. They simply share similar intrests.

They share a symbiotic relationship, that's very true.

XxDeonxX wrote...

The Chantry have organised positions over many things, even political. It is probably because of the chantry that the elves live in alienages today. But it is not their concern.

Of course not. Their concern is spreading the Chant of Light to the four corners of the world and controlling all the mages across Thedas.

XxDeonxX wrote...

The Chantry has political and millitant control among other things. But the organisation of lands and where people live is an issue for the Monarchy and not the chantry So to improve the alienages, or even give the elves more rights and lands it is up to the Monarchies of Thedas to do this and not the chantry

I think they're responsible for why it happened, but I agree that an effort would need to be made by the rulers in order to see improvements or equality. Alistair as King does make efforts to improve the lives of the elves in the Denerim Alienage by placing the Elder on the royal council, despite the controversy it causes, which is why I typically pair a personality hardened Alistair with Anora to rule Ferelden.

XxDeonxX wrote...

P.S Brother Genitivi is an idiot.. Just thought I'd throw that in, even though its not really related to what you said =D

I agree!

[Addai]

XxDeonxX wrote...

I know they say she is a bloodmage but im saying regardless of whether or not she is a blood mage, She is a Maleficar and it is highly possible the chantry could find out she is a Maleficar. I know it says she is a blood mage though. Anyway, this is not me providing an excuse or anything but it is possible that the default morrigan for Orlesian warden is that he secondary specialisation was in fact Blood mage.

How did Morrigan get brought into the conversation??  I missed a connection.

If there was no DR in Origins, Morrigan is said to be hanging around the Orlesian court.  Doesn't sound like she's being hunted by the Chantry in that case.

[LobselVith8]

XxDeonxX wrote...

LobselVith8 said...

No reason provided in canon for the templars hunting her down because they assume she's a blood mage, though. And the only difference between the Warden-Commander and the Orlesian Warden is the absense of the Commander of the Grey - it's not like when Herrin was made a Desire Demon in TDC because it was an AU.

Not referring to Lore here, But I mean when making a Orlesian warden it has defaults set for Origins. Such as Alistair was made King etc. Maybe another one of these defaults was that Morrigans secondary specialisation was actually Blood mage.

I think you give the templars too much credit.

Regarding the elves, I actually asked a while back why the elves would remain in the alienages, even if the new Teyrn of Gwaren was elven.

Regarding the Chantry being good, I don't think it's evil. I don't believe the templars are evil, either. The problems I address concerning the mages and what may have happened with the Dales still allow me to see that there are good people associated with it. Leliana is able to accept the criticism about her views on elves and change her perception, and despite having faith in the Maker, her views differ dramatically from those of the other Sisters and Initiates she knew. Maybe Leliana will be responsible for a radically different perception of the Maker by people who believe that she had a vision of the Maker?

[LobselVith8]

Addai67 wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

I know they say she is a bloodmage but im saying regardless of whether or not she is a blood mage, She is a Maleficar and it is highly possible the chantry could find out she is a Maleficar. I know it says she is a blood mage though. Anyway, this is not me providing an excuse or anything but it is possible that the default morrigan for Orlesian warden is that he secondary specialisation was in fact Blood mage.

How did Morrigan get brought into the conversation??  I missed a connection.

If there was no DR in Origins, Morrigan is said to be hanging around the Orlesian court.  Doesn't sound like she's being hunted by the Chantry in that case.

In Witch Hunt, for an Orlesian Warden we read a codex stating that the templars are hunting her down because they suspect that she's a blood mage. Given the lack of evidence of her being one, it seems to be an issue of no proof? No problem. Kill now, ask questions never.

[Augustei]

Alot of people, both in the templars and even players on the forums have a bad habit of putting Maleficar and Blood mages in the same catagory. So it comes down to either 1 of four things.

1) They wrongly accused Morrigan of being a blood mage - even though she is a maleficar and would be executed for this. They may have found out she was a Maleficar, it is possible. And they did the mistake of putting her in the wrong catagory

2) She Really is a Blood mage

3) She was wrongly accused all togeather

4) Mistake by the writer who did that journal entry

[LobselVith8]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Alot of people, both in the templars and even players on the forums have a bad habit of putting Maleficar and Blood mages in the same catagory. So it comes down to either 1 of four things.
1) They wrongly accused Morrigan of being a blood mage - even though she is a maleficar and would be executed for this. They may have found out she was a Maleficar, it is possible. And they did the mistake of putting her in the wrong catagory
2) She Really is a Blood mage
3) She was wrongly accused all togeather
4) Mistake by the writer who did that journal entry

Considering what happened to D'Sims and Aenirin, I'm going to favor #3.

[Augustei]

Yes but unlike D'Sims Morrigan is a Maleficar and the chantry could have found this out. People would have seen her shapeshift, reported it and then the Templars taken action.

Morrigan has shown she is a mage, The Cirlcle has no records of her so they know she is an Apostate hedge mage. She has shown to be a Maleficar and since she is willing to practice some of the forbidden arts why wouldn't she practice all?
I dont think this is a wrong case of complete false accusation like D'Sims and Annerin. Neither were Maleficar and one wasn't a mage. Morrigan is both.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 03 février 2011 - 11:09 .

[Addai]

Am I missing something? The templars hunt all apostates, blood mages or no, and I doubt they much care if they actually are maleficar or not.