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[Tarkandor]

Warning, this include spoilers about the ME2 DLC! I mean really, der.





So pretty simple question, will the ME2 DLC like Overlord and Shadowbroker (and to a lesser extent, Zaaed and Kasumi's dlc) have any effect on your transfer from ME2 to ME3?

I personally think I'd be a bit low to 'force' people to buy DLCs in order to get the full experience, but Bioware is backed by EA now so you never know.

The real question (and spoiler!) is that at the end of Shadowbroker, I got back with Liara... mainly because I wanted the achievement ... but I don't really want Liara back over Tali. Liara's changed to much for my taste and utlimately I just like Tali better.

Now Talit acts perfectly normal when I go back on the sip. I can still call her up to my room. When I talk to her I get the usual lines. As if nothing happened. This could be because the whole Liara thing really has no bearing and was just fan service (appreciated fan service, but still)... or it could be because Bioware didn't want to bring back all the voice actors for all the possible love interest and records a bunch of new lines just for a 8$ DLC.

I still have a save file right before overlord, I could simply reload and zoom throught it at easy (will certainly be faster and easier than Insanity) , but unless I have to, I'd rather just not have to do that.

Modifié par Tarkandor, 01 février 2011 - 05:07 .

[jayred vas normandy]

i think it would be cheating those of us that paid for DLC to not have them tie in to the 3rd game. I paid for them so i could have the full total story, so give me what i paid for.

[Prince Keldar]

jayred vas normandy wrote...

i think it would be cheating those of us that paid for DLC to not have them tie in to the 3rd game. I paid for them so i could have the full total story, so give me what i paid for.

I agree.  After all Liara becoming Shadow Broker is just too big not to be included.  And since Lair of the Shadow Broker is the first of the "bridging" DLC's, they will have an impact.

I do not know about the earlier DLC's like Zaeed, Kasumi, Overlord, etc. but Lair will definately have an impact.

[Tarkandor]

Right... so I should probably replay the mission, not sleep with Liara and save, if I don't want Tali and Liara to get in a catfight in ME3.

Wait... why wouldn't I want that...

Than again, I was hoping this being the Bioware forum, someone would have heard something more official from the Biofolks themselves. I guess nobody truly knows yet?

Modifié par Tarkandor, 01 février 2011 - 05:40 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

As Lair of the Shadow Broker is the first story-bridging DLC, and was conceived as preparation for the events of ME3, I think it's a canonical part of the Mass Effect narrative. I think it's pertinent to note that there are no story variables attached to LotSB, and that it will conclude in exactly the same way for all players. Consequently, it's implementation into the trilogy's story is almost seamless.

The likes of Zaeed, Kasumi and Overlord are a different story entirely. I imagine that they will have some effect, but the full extent of these effects are completely unknown.

I like it when others say exactly what you have in mind. Saves time and energy.

[Tarkandor]

I think Liara being the Shadowbroker in ME3 and helping you out is pretty much a given even for people who did not download the DLC - they'll just get a quick explanation and 'Download the dlc!' nudge.

I'm more interested in knowing wether or not my save game now has 'Liara' instead of 'Tali' beside the romance column...as I said, since Tali isn't acting any differently and I can still ask her to come up, one could be lead to think the whole Liara fling doesn't change anything.

Modifié par Tarkandor, 01 février 2011 - 06:51 .

[AkiKishi]

Well it's packed as standard with the PS3 version so you don't need an internet connection to access it. Whether or not it still counts as DLC... who knows.

Lair of the Shadow Broker was very enjoyable and well done. I think Liara as ShadowBroker is too much of a story hook to ignore in ME3.

Kasumi has good plot hook regardless - even if the greybox is destroyed there is no reason anyone would know and not pursue her. It also looked like it had Reaper related stuff. I wouldn't mind seeing Kasumi in ME3 but not really bothered either way.

Zaaed only has a loose end if you took the Paragon route and overall I never found him that interesting just another hired gun. Drop him I say.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 01 février 2011 - 06:56 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Lair of the Shadow Broker was very enjoyable and well done. I think Liara as ShadowBroker is too much of a story hook to ignore in ME3.

Actually, it's quite obvious. BioWare themselves called LOTSB "bridging content", which, by definition, means it's canonical; that is to say, it happens anyway.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Way I see it, Shepard was just 'along for the ride' in LotSB, for those that didn't do it, Cerberus most likely forwarded the information anyway when it is obvious Shepard wasn't going to deal with it and Liara dealt with the situation solo. I just finished a playthrough where Shepard didn't even go in the Crescent Nebula, let alone visit Ilium.

I'll be intrigued to see how they handle Overlord considering what Archer told Shepard about the intent of David. I can't see them treating it like they did BDtS in which no one stopped Balak completing his plan for 'Default ME2' Sheps and anyone that didn't do it on PC/360 or all the PS3 players. Actually if I was a betting man I'd say they'll report how some satellite near Aite got destroyed (possibly by Cerberus) and when some team went to investigate they found out that some rogue VI had caused it (cover-up story by Cerberus after they'd sent a cleanup team in to deal with the mess). Basically players would just hear about it as 'background news' stuff the way BDtS was dealt with.

As for Kasumi and Zaeed, Shep was needed for the former because Kasumi figured it'd be tough getting out of Hocks and Zaeed, well, he probably would've took out Vito Santiago solo but probably died in the refinery in the process. So latter being another news bulletion of a refinery that had allegedly been tookover by the blue suns being destroyed, the former I'm of the belief that she wouldn't have attempted the heist without help and also doubt Hock would've cracked how to access the data on Keiji's greybox because pretty much the only way to get it properly would've been via Kasumi. So that story just wouldn't crop up for people who didn't recruit her I don't think.

"That's just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around"

[DarthSliver]

Lair of the Shadow Broker, like others say is too big not to affect ME3. Whether you played it or not.

Kasumi and Zaeed were hire gun, Zaeed came free with game if you brought it new on the 360. But i dont see either of them being on your team, problay just a cameo if you did have them in ME2.

[mineralica]

Tarkandor wrote...
I'm more interested in knowing wether or not my save game now has 'Liara' instead of 'Tali' beside the romance column...as I said, since Tali isn't acting any differently and I can still ask her to come up, one could be lead to think the whole Liara fling doesn't change anything.

I think it looks like "romanced anyone in ME2 - yes; romanced Tali - yes; made through LotSB - yes; continued the romance with Liara - yes". I'm in the same situation with my main mShep; looking forward to hear what both ladys will say to Shepard in ME3

[Archereon]

Prince Keldar wrote...

jayred vas normandy wrote...

i think it would be cheating those of us that paid for DLC to not have them tie in to the 3rd game. I paid for them so i could have the full total story, so give me what i paid for.

I agree.  After all Liara becoming Shadow Broker is just too big not to be included.  And since Lair of the Shadow Broker is the first of the "bridging" DLC's, they will have an impact.

I do not know about the earlier DLC's like Zaeed, Kasumi, Overlord, etc. but Lair will definately have an impact.

If you don't do LotSB, Liara will probably do it herself.  That's my theory.

[Prince Keldar]

Archereon wrote...

Prince Keldar wrote...

jayred vas normandy wrote...

i think it would be cheating those of us that paid for DLC to not have them tie in to the 3rd game. I paid for them so i could have the full total story, so give me what i paid for.

I agree.  After all Liara becoming Shadow Broker is just too big not to be included.  And since Lair of the Shadow Broker is the first of the "bridging" DLC's, they will have an impact.

I do not know about the earlier DLC's like Zaeed, Kasumi, Overlord, etc. but Lair will definately have an impact.

If you don't do LotSB, Liara will probably do it herself.  That's my theory.

True, but Liara will be the Shadow Broker, so the event did happen and so the story that Lair tells will have an impact on ME3.  The others maybe not but Lair definately will, especially if you decided to continue the romance.