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[Reverie]

Valmarn wrote...

Reverie wrote...

I still don't get the obsession with the visors with almost every outfit. Another note.. I prefer Miranada's current armor outfit to this one. It's not very flattering in my eyes. Kind of like the Tali one though, not sure I would buy the pack just for that.

Fixed

Aren't you clever. 

[SSV Enterprise]

Miranda looks great, buying this so she can finally go into battle properly prepared. Bonus points if Miranda gets a proper helmet on the Collector ship.

[samurai crusade]

At first I didn't like Tali's... but as I compare her outfits... looks like she added plating for protection... makes more sense and now I like it

[LPPrince]

Cra1n wrote...

I literally spent an hour trying to find the DL link to buy this and... then I saw the release date.

You are not mentally challenged. You're just excited.

A lot of us are.

[SteelerWayne]

samurai crusade wrote...

At first I didn't like Tali's... but as I compare her outfits... looks like she added plating for protection... makes more sense and now I like it

Same here.  I am interested to see if this "heads up display" that's mentioned in the description will show some animation in Tali's face plate like the Capacitor helmet did.

[MrDizazta]

I kinda of hoping for Rage Armor for Grunt

[samurai crusade]

SteelerWayne wrote...

samurai crusade wrote...

At first I didn't like Tali's... but as I compare her outfits... looks like she added plating for protection... makes more sense and now I like it

Same here.  I am interested to see if this "heads up display" that's mentioned in the description will show some animation in Tali's face plate like the Capacitor helmet did.

Really!? didn't know that... I've never put on the helmets just the visors. I'll try it out tomorrow, thanks.

[Zack56]

MMMMEEEEEE WAAAANNNNT NAAAWWWW!!!!! GIMMEEEEE!!!!!!

[netfire_]

I like Miranda's quite a bit, but Talli's less, It isn't really different enough. I don't know why grunt was included. I thought the point was to give people something decent to wear while being shot at. Grunt already had that. Something similar to Miranda's armor on Jacob would have been perfect. Even Something for Samara would have been nice. I suppose I shall have to be happy with a slight improvement.

[aragfore03]

If what Grunt is wearing is Krogan built.... why does it have a Turian symbol on the front???

By the way.... how will Miranda 'unzip' out of that armor if you have a romance with her?

Modifié par aragfore03, 03 février 2011 - 02:27 .

[Spartas Husky]

didymos1120 wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

unfortunately is too close for recoloring to be considered anything BUT a recoloring.

It's either a simple recolor or it's not.  In this case...it's not. 

Respectfully I disagree. Not calling it "simple" simple is just leaving the same textures and changing color. We saw that with Thane.

This is just recoloring. not simple but not innovative.

An actual idea is when the outfit is changed in shape. Miranda had a suit skin tight, now she does not.

Changing some of the texture from leather to steel... or from steel to wood and changing the color... is recoloring. Is not adding anything new. Is just replacing a square that is made of cloth... by a square made out of steel. Yes it takes a couple of minutes more to do... but to be realistic it doesn't take that much brain work.

An example: When I was helping mod Rome Total War, we had two choices... since we didn't have money for it... we could either change the color of the soldier to make them look new... or actually change the shape and pieces of the armor.

A- Is called simply recoloring. Into falls:
Recoloring black wood for brown wood.
Or like Jacob... leaving the same shape and textures with just a different color stripe

B- Is called changing the shape.
If you have a shoulder plate...and add chainmail... thats different. Simplie braking the shoulder plate in 2 smaller shoulder plates is not redoing the design, is simply breaking one piece into two. Doesn't take much effort.

Changing the "textures" of Tali's armor doens't change the fact that they didn't came up with anything new... besides color and texture.

i guess my point is Shape. For something to be new... has to be a different shape.

breaking a square into 4 smaller squares is not inovation... is called being lazy if is bioware because they have financial backup. In the case of people doing it for free like me... is called being resourceful... but even then it still not as appealing.

Shape... thats all there is to it. Changing texture, and Color doesn't take new ideas. Changing Shape certainly does. Like Miranda. She went from Skin tight shape... to armored shape. Colors are of course relevant but only count if the shape has changed.

Example: You have a long sleve shirt and Blue jeans. aka tali

Now you have a short sleve shirt over your long sleve shirt... and your blue jeans changed to darker blue jeans.

Yes definitely the short sleve shirt wasn't there but is nothing new.

Adding a coat, changing to cargo pants, shorts... maybe adding knee pads... elbow protection. New stuff that has little shape in resemblence to the last clothing piece... counts... at least in making a mod be more appealing than the  rest.

but Bioware knows people will buy it no matter what, so there is no forced incentive to actually spend more than a couple of minutes doing it. Changing the colors and texture from cloth to steel in rome total war takes.... 10 minutes at most. COming up with new designs actually takes a couple of days.

Miranda was a new design.... grunt and tali were just probably 10 minute haste work before cofee break.

[BioticInfiltrator]

aLucidMind wrote...

I'm pretty sure Miranda always appears in her white and black attire for the romance scene even if you have her all-black suit or the armor equipped.

Yes she does which is a shame. On topic, I like all the suits except the visors. I have the other appearance pack but  I don't use Thanes (even though I like it) because of those damn glasses he has on, take's away from the cinematic's imho. just my two cents.

[RocShemp]

Darth Hawke wrote...

Ah well, at least we got something a bit exciting, unlike the DA epic fail news

I've been away.  Of what news do you speak?

[aragfore03]

aLucidMind wrote...

I'm pretty sure Miranda always appears in her white and black attire for the romance scene even if you have her all-black suit or the armor equipped.

That would make sense.

Still want someone to explain to me why Krogan would use a Turian symbol......

[didymos1120]

aragfore03 wrote...
That would make sense.

Still want someone to explain to me why Krogan would use a Turian symbol......

It's not.  It's concept art for a possible turian symbol that was never actually used as such.  Or used at all until now.

[aragfore03]

So.... are you saying they used it on Grunt's armor cause it looks cool and has no cultural significance?

[didymos1120]

aragfore03 wrote...

So.... are you saying they used it on Grunt's armor cause it looks cool and has no cultural significance?

I don't why they used it, but that's as good a guess as any. Maybe they've decided to make it a krogan symbol instead. Who knows? Anyway,  it was orignally part of a concept for turian gangsters, and the design would have been on their armor, but they never actually put any of those guys into ME1, so the emblem was never canonically turian.

[MisterDyslexo]

Well don't the Blood Pack have a human hand for their insignia? Not the first time its happened I guess.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Cool Miranda has armor now. Too bad it's too late to add helmets too.

Tali's is underwhelming to me, but somehow I suspect it will still be the cause of most of the sales.

Grunt's is cool imo. Nuff said.

And best of all, no sunglasses. Visors are much better.

[We'll bang okay]

to be honest im not a fan of the armor for her i don`t like it one bit i hope no armor for the 3 one 

Modifié par Douglas n7, 03 février 2011 - 03:50 .

[Schneidend]

Spartas Husky wrote...

*Snipped*

They didn't just change the texture of her outfit. They gave her what is clearly a ceramic chest plate on top. That's not the same as changing a texture to look like a different material.

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

aragfore03 wrote...

If what Grunt is wearing is Krogan built.... why does it have a Turian symbol on the front???

By the way.... how will Miranda 'unzip' out of that armor if you have a romance with her?

Easy, during the romance scene Miranda is always in her white Cerberus appearence. Even if you have her loyalty outfit on, she's always wearing the white one during the romance.

[ABCoLD]

Schneidend wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

*Snipped*

They didn't just change the texture of her outfit. They gave her what is clearly a ceramic chest plate on top. That's not the same as changing a texture to look like a different material.

They retextured a section of her outfit that originally looked like textured leather to look like the same metal as her 'necklace' bands.  It's a simple retexture.  The base mesh wasn't changed.

http://en.wikipedia..../Normal_mapping

Modifié par ABCoLD, 03 février 2011 - 05:34 .