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adam_grif wrote...
what's funny about your statement is that Calculus itself was considered "nonsense" for a time, Gravity, Relativity, Dark Energy, Dark Matter, Evolution, Cell structure, Elemental composition, n-dimensions, Computers, A global Network that allows literally Hundreds of Millions of people to communicate nigh simultaneously across multiple regions. All these things have 1 thing in common. They were considered "nonsense" at one point by a group of people who thought they already had all the answers.
Derp, all of those things were actually based on reality. The reaper slushee machine being used to construct starships by incorporating the "essence" of humans (lol) is straight out absurd. I'm sure you could melt down people and build a starship, but using melted down humans as a construction material? What are the material properties of goop, exactly? If the Reapers were making themselves out of Play-Dough or match sticks I'm sure you'd be here defending the nonsense just as vigorously. "Ah, but you see, people once thought that XYZ was nonsense and they were wrong (even though I'm providing no evidence to suggest that this is actually the case) and therefore building rocketships out of silly putty is a sound move."
and a herp-a-derp back ar ya
you're problem is you're focusing specifically on the reapers to the exclusion of all else inside the MEverse. I was thinking more on the known and relatively understood technology(in the fiction) and sciences in ME. Given the reapers are alien and i doubt are ever meant to be understood that eliminates them from the comparisson.Now to take a shot at your all those things were actually based on reality. Yes they were based on reality in their application after being conceived of in fiction. Example Cell Phone networks. While I'm sure it was blatantly obvious one day we could connect ourselves through a portable phone network by satelite at star treks release it was people inspired by star trek who made that a reality. Next Point Small Particle Teleportation-Thought of by star trek made possible by people who wanted to see if it could actually be done. While the physical application is based in reality the overall concept came from Numerous Fictions.
and to demonstrate my point on our society and world being built on the "nonsense" of past generations again, There have been plenty of scientific discoveries ruled as nonsense only to be accepted a long while after their initial creation.
Furthermore I'd love to know how the write brothers ideas were totally based in reality, the logic "i saw birds do it i want to now to" is not exactly the sanest or most legitimate reason to try flying ****. Nevertheless they were the ones out of a good lot of people who figured out how to manipulate air pressure to create sustained flight. I'm pretty sure until they got their plane off the ground most people thought it was totally impossible and the ficticious work of mad men. Another good example on this would be Metal Boats originally scoffed at because everyone knows metal can't float in water, now untrue, All our warvessels and ships are now made out of metals. Now for possibly the most perplexing of all our inventions atm, Harriers and Helis. Conceived by an artist Not construct until at least...what 300 years? after his inittial conception. Thought as redicuolous and mostly impossible until it happened. Now we have an asortment of Planes that can vertically lift off and a wide selection of Helicopters for civil and military use. Lets talk about networking for a bit now. I highly doubt that when people first made computers they immediately thought Hey we can make the internet out of them. It took the arpa net design to make people realize it was possible to connect millions of computers to a network and communicate at nigh instant speed Who'd have thunk before Arpa Net that Computers across vast regions of the world could all be interconnected on one public network. sure many of these had a small basis in reality prior to their invention but not a large enough one to be considered non-fiction. If that were the case they would've been created upon conception because to be non-fiction at the time would mean it was real and the scientific institutions of the era knew how to create it.
ME has plenty of things based as loosley in reality as Helicopters and Planes once were. For example They forego laser weaponry, deemed as ineffective, for hyperfast weapons that funny enough function similarly to miniaturized railguns with infinite ammo. They just give an alternate explantion. What is funny is that presently the US military is experimenting with Ship Mounted RailGuns because right now we don't have the tech to miniaturize them and keep their weapons effectiveness. Wrist mounted holographic computers, this is obviously the way computers are going things keep getting smaller and smaller my guess we have 40 yeras before wrist mounted computers with an internet connection that you can play Video Games on come out 70 at most. Will they be holographic? if 3D technology actually begins projecting images instead of creating an imaginary 3D chamber yes it is likely they will. Will they have a Touch screen/holographic interface: you can already use touch interfaces on at least 50% of the new products being pushed on to the market in the Computer World Microsoft is working an a Touch Screeen Computer Table thing right now so while holographic may be taking it a bit far touch screens are likely Hell, if you wear special tracking tips for your fingers though Holographic, or at least projected, interface becomes more likely as shown by another company i believe called TED. Who, i might add, have what could be roughly equated to as a pre-alpha necklace omni-tool(as far as the computer aspect goes). Super Tough highly flexible Body armor is the only way the current armors used today can be improved. I believe they had a physicist of some kind explain a potential way for the Kinetic Barriers to work in ME(minus the Mass Effect Fields)
i Mean seriously To say that ME has no basis in reality because of "reaper goo" is a silly accusation. To claim that the things we now have we're ever non-fiction before their creation is a lie. Although it is funny to here you say because it has no basis in reality it can't be done. I'll just point out Teleportation is infact possible, with small particles but none the less possible.
Plausibility can be established on the sole basis that it is not explicitly known to be impossible at the moment.
It's not impossible to build something out of goop, it's just ridiculous and makes them look like huge idiots for doing it. It isn't believable, and makes zero sense given what we know about materials and human biology and philosophy.
Again my statements are not directed soley on the Reaper Goop. as far as a basis in reality for this idk maybe they're some how adding Human DNA to Reaper siemen? How it works isn't likely to be explained nor was it likely meant to by BW. I don't think Reaper Technology is the Highlight of the ME universe.
while i'm sure they wouldn't be shocked. Not all science has held true over the years, infact is newton now just accurate enough to be taught in schools but not really spot on? i remember being taught he was an absolute truth now at my University i've heard the physics professors and students talk about how he's actually off, if only slightly.Capeo wrote...
And to the folks who are invoke the
whole "nobody could predict today's tech 100 years ago" thing. That's
simply not true since the modern age of science. Everything we have
today is predicated on the laws and theories that have been established
in the last 150 years and the respective science fields have predicted
the uses of discoveries from their inception. Bell, and anyone working
the fields of electro magnetism, certainly wouldn't be shocked by the
internet. They maybe surprised that technology and infrastructure grew
so quickly but the concept is as old as knowing info could be
transmitted electromagnetically.
Technology is predictable but it does have it's upsets as does science, Einsteins theories and the dismantling of Ether, I doubt anyone saw telepportation coming until 1993. Now were searching for the higgs boson and trying to recreate Mini Big Bangs with the LHC and the Collider at Fermi-Lab. and at the same time experimenting with Dark Matter and Dark energy trying to find the anti-gravity properties of one. if it has any.
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