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[Barquiel]

I would be surprised to see Thane, Garrus or Tali in my ME3 game

Modifié par Barquiel, 03 février 2011 - 10:06 .

[Ryzaki]

Kim Shepard wrote...

That Sole Survivor will also take his sweet time getting to the Collector base and let the Cerberus crew die too. Jacob is safe though.

As for Liara, it was more of a ragequit at the time, but I laugh about it now. xD

By the way, paranoid Sole Survivor and trap-romanced MaleShep are the same guy. Poor man never gets a break.

Aw.. *huggles poor Shep*

He's going to be all crazy in ME3.

Let's hope he's not an earthborn.

[Barquiel]

Modifié par Barquiel, 03 février 2011 - 10:06 .

[Kim Shepard]

Ryzaki wrote...

Aw.. *huggles poor Shep*

He's going to be all crazy in ME3.

Let's hope he's not an earthborn.

That's the plan! He'll start worrying right after he leaves Cerberus when he realizes that his allies are few and the Reapers are coming. And yes, he is an Earthborn. xD I chose the perfect background for him to go insane long before I knew about working for Cerberus and Earth bring attacked.

[Ryzaki]

Kim Shepard wrote...

That's the plan! He'll start worrying right after he leaves Cerberus when he realizes that his allies are few and the Reapers are coming. And yes, he is an Earthborn. xD I chose the perfect background for him to go insane long before I knew about working for Cerberus and Earth bring attacked.

Poor thing. XD

Anyways I wonder if I should kill off Samara or Morinth? I know Samara will be easier by virtue of me having her unloyal but...

[Collider]

On one Shepard, I might.

[Kim Shepard]

Ryzaki wrote...

Poor thing. XD

Anyways I wonder if I should kill off Samara or Morinth? I know Samara will be easier by virtue of me having her unloyal but...

Morinth would probably be more interesting, but more difficult to kill off in a way that makes sense. Unless Shepard really thinks she'd make a good team leader.

The unloyals are easy to kill off. I must be one of the few people who managed to get Miranda killed off by accident.

[mineralica]

My the least favourite character has a plot armour, so usually everyone survives.

About Earthborn/Sole Survivor Shepard: John Shepard is my specimen for a "idiot Shepard" - idiot paragon, in this case. He not only killed both LIs, but also managed to save only Thane, Mordin and Samara. Plus not recruited Tali, so quarian/geth situation would become a great fun

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Naw.  It just seems pointlessly cruel to kill off teammates when it is fully in your power to save them--and at no loss to you!

Having certain characters alive is a loss of my own enjoyment!

Plus, I deal with enough death and loss in real life, thanks.  Like, way too f*cking much.  Is it wrong to enjoy a little escapism every once in a while, where the good guys actually have a change and you can give impossible odds the finger?

Fair enough.

I don't really understand the "oooooh, it's too easy for a suicide mission" argument, anyway.  It's like getting an A on an exam, then going back in to retake it and flunking it on purpose because you expected it to be harder.
Just my two cents

In the end, Mass effect is a story and not real-life. And in a story where everything is gained but nothing is lost, things get slightly boring in the end.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 03 février 2011 - 02:21 .

[Alknost]

I'd thought about getting rid of Miranda, but she grew on me so I decided to keep her around.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Schneidend wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...
The only squadmate I've every killed out of spite was Miranda. I've despised that woman ever since she first opened her smug self absorbed mouth.

Says the man who played god and let somebody die for petty reasons.

That was uncalled for. It's a video game dude. It's not like I kill people I don't like in real life.

Jeez I just responded to trolling. Too tired this morning to think. 

[Funkcase]

I think the only way anyone can die is on purporse, or just rushing through the game really.

I did one playthrough where everyone died, just to see the ending.

I'm gonna do a ''worst playthrough for ME3'' soon though, just to see the repercussions in ME3.

Modifié par Funkcase, 03 février 2011 - 03:52 .

[Mims]

I will be waiting until ME3. For ME1-->ME2 I've pretty much tried to keep everyone alive, with the exception of Kaidan. Although one day I will swap him for Ashley just to see his ME2/3 stuff too.



Once I've played through all the games and see how all the characters end up, then I'll sort of craft a 'canon' playthrough where some characters die. Which is terrible metagaming, but...

[VutaatVerd]

The only one I can see doing any of this on would be my Renegade Shepard: Jack, Legion, and Garrus survive...maybe Zaeed as well, the rest all dead.

[Bullets McDeath]

My last playthrough I purposefully let the half the crew die and lost Tali, Morinth, Thane and Mordin on purpose... yes, for "dramatic effect". I actually like all of thse characters, too... well, Tali I'm sort of meh about, but Thane and Mordin were two of my favorite people to talk to (if not have with me on a mission).



I'm sorry, but the suicide mission is a total joke, coming out of that without casualties is unacceptable. This is not Walt Disney's "Mass Effect", y'know? I want some consequences, I want to feel like I just barely escaped by the skin on my teeth... not to mention the game acts all somber and droopy even if no one dies, which makes it even sillier (We lost some good people down there, TIM! Like... Ensign Whosit and Lieutenant Whats-her-face!!). Hence, I always kill at least one person on purpose.



Killing Morinth actually took some doing, I was sort of proud of that. My Shep betrayed Samara because he felt she would come after him once the mission was done to satisfy her Jedi, errr, Justicar code. So he knew he had to get her out of the picture somehow and took the oppurtunity when it arose. Then he saw what a twisted beyotch her daughter was and made sure she didn't make it out of the mission in one piece.



So, that's two crazy-powerful, morally questionable super-Asaris who probably want me dead who got dead instead. All in a days' work.

[AdmiralCheez]

Lizardviking wrote...
Having certain characters alive is a loss of my own enjoyment!

Imagine how I feel about Liara.  But I'm not that bitter to take up a vendetta against a videogame character.

Fair enough.

Thanks.

In the end, Mass effect is a story and not real-life. And in a story where everything is gained but nothing is lost, things get slightly boring in the end.

It's also a videogame, and in videogames you are expected to get the highest score possible with the least amount of getting your assed kicked.

Besides, not enough stories have glorious triumphs these days.

[Lord Zeuss]

Thane is going to die on my Renegon playthrough. [:<

[Xilizhra]

I don't know why the devs thought I'd think her near obsession with Shepard was charming. It's creepy. And her "I couldn't let you go!" line when you romance her despite her claiming Asari are all well aware of loss is just jarring.

There's a difference between a slow descent into old age and an abrupt, traumatic instant death when the romance is still blossoming.

[Ryzaki]

Xilizhra wrote...

There's a difference between a slow descent into old age and an abrupt, traumatic instant death when the romance is still blossoming.

But in the end death is death. And it wouldn't have been slow for Liara at all 100 years isn't a lot of time to an Asari. She manages to compose herself after her mother dies infront of her realtively quickly but as soon as Shepard dies she's all "Oh no I must get him back." no matter what? Shepard could've died abruptly for any number of reasons, Liara had already experienced this abrupt death with her mother! I'm supposed to believe the woman who composes herself quickly over her mother's death and vows to "remember her as she lived." is going to be unwillingly to let Shepard go? 

It's just creeps me out considering the short amount of time they've known each other.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 février 2011 - 05:27 .

[Bullets McDeath]

I think it works if your Shep romanced her. Her mother had also "****ed up now" in the words of Abraham Lincoln and so her acceptance of her mother's fate is slightly different. Shepard, however was the victim of an intergalactic High-Low more or less, so you can see how that might be more upsetting. But again, only if they were in a relationship. If she's just another crew member, it is very... odd, but clearly Liara has a place in the writers' hearts.

[Xilizhra]

Ryzaki wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

There's a difference between a slow descent into old age and an abrupt, traumatic instant death when the romance is still blossoming.

But in the end death is death. And it wouldn't have been slow for Liara at all 100 years isn't a lot of time to an Asari. She manages to compose herself after her mother dies infront of her realtively quickly but as soon as Shepard dies she's all "Oh no I must get him back." no matter what? Shepard could've died abruptly for any number of reasons, Liara had already experienced this abrupt death with her mother! I'm supposed to believe the woman who composes herself quickly over her mother's death and vows to "remember her as she lived." is going to be unwillingly to let Shepard go? 

It's just creeps me out considering the short amount of time they've known each other.

Remember that Benezia had no chance to be brought back. The death was most definitely final as soon as it happened. Shepard, on the other hand, did have a chance, and what might have been a relatively brief period of mourning wound up stretched out over two years of desperate hope combined with deep worry. It was the possibility of Shepard's death being reversed that made her so driven, not the death itself.

[Barquiel]

Ryzaki wrote...

But in the end death is death. And it wouldn't have been slow for Liara at all 100 years isn't a lot of time to an Asari. She manages to compose herself after her mother dies infront of her realtively quickly but as soon as Shepard dies she's all "Oh no I must get him back." no matter what? Shepard could've died abruptly for any number of reasons, Liara had already experienced this abrupt death with her mother! I'm supposed to believe the woman who composes herself quickly over her mother's death and vows to "remember her as she lived." is going to be unwillingly to let Shepard go? 

It's just creeps me out considering the short amount of time they've known each other.

Did you even read the comics? Liara wasn't very enthusiastic about Cerberus plans.

"But I really think you should the dead rest. This isn't what I brought Shepard back for"

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Imagine how I feel about Liara.  But I'm not that bitter to take up a vendetta against a videogame character.

Oh please. Don't tell me you never read/saw/played a book/movie/game where a character annoyed you to no end and the only thing you could think of was "I hope a truck crashes through the wall and f""""ng kill him".

It's also a videogame, and in videogames you are expected to get the highest score possible with the least amount of getting your assed kicked.

Besides, not enough stories have glorious triumphs these days.

Mass effect isn't some sort of arcade game with a highscore. And if you try to use the "Hardest achievment/challenge" mindset, then you should be far more happy with the 10/12 characters killed playthrough.

[Ryzaki]

Barquiel wrote...

Did you even read the comics? Liara wasn't very enthusiastic about Cerberus plans.

"But I really think you should the dead rest. This isn't what I brought Shepard back for"

Yes she thinks that the dead should rest so much that she hands him over.

Xilizhra wrote...
Remember that Benezia had no chance to be brought back. The death was most definitely final as soon as it
happened. Shepard, on the other hand, did have a chance, and what might have been a relatively brief period of mourning wound up stretched out over two years of desperate hope combined with deep worry. It was the
possibility of Shepard's death being reversed that made her so driven, not the death itself.

So what Cerberus just approached her and asked her for Shep's body and she hands it over?

And again: she might not even be friends with Shepard and she still does this. It's creepy.

outlaworacle wrote...

I think it works if your Shep
romanced her. Her mother had also "****ed up now" in the words of
Abraham Lincoln and so her acceptance of her mother's fate is slightly
different. Shepard, however was the victim of an intergalactic High-Low
more or less, so you can see how that might be more upsetting. But
again, only if they were in a relationship. If she's just another crew
member, it is very... odd, but clearly Liara has a place in the writers'
hearts.

This is my issue with it.

She still does
this with a renegade Shepard that tells her he finds her species
disgusting, insults her every time he gets and ignores her all he rest
of the time. It makes her look...pathetic actually.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 février 2011 - 06:39 .