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[Randy1012]

You're not really creating the story so much as choosing which of the predetermined stories you want to see happen.

[ReallyRue]

Minxie18 wrote...

^I think the other clues are basically that the party is missing a second mage (and a spirit healer at that). So not only does the dude in those pics look like Anders, but Anders also just happens to be a healer mage.

Devs have also said various things about how they are willing to overwrite epilogues to bring back characters (applies to Anders), and that the reason they would bring back a certain character was to develop them more because they only barely scraped the surface in Origins/Awakening (also strongly applies to Anders).

Mmm, I see. That 'scraping the surface' thing definitely applies to Anders. Like the other posters have said, we barely find out anything about him. Whenever I pick dialogue options with him, I always try a combination to get more information out of him, but all I know can be summed up to: is a mage, has escaped the tower several times, does not like Irving, is a cat person. That's not a lot... so I'd be glad to see him again to find out about him! And he would slot into it quite comfortably, gameplay-wise.

I just did't want to get my hopes up too much without lots and lots of clues!

[LupusYondergirl]

Riona45 wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...
 We don't know why he was spared tranquility.

Actually, IIRC he himself mentions that once a mage passes the Harrowing (like he did), they cannot be made Tranquil.

True, but the mention of him by Finn in Witch Hunt says that his career as an escape artist began when he was an apprentice, before his harrowing.  Compare that to Wynne's apprentice- when he he escaped the templars ran him through and left him for dead.

I figure that's another point in his favor.  It seemed strange that, of all the companions to be referenced in Witch Hunt, they picked Anders.  Not once, with Finn's dialogue, but twice (with a book on spirit healing containing a drawing by an apprentice of a tiger named Ser Pounce a Lot eating a templar).

It would have been easy to slip a reference to Shayle into the Orzammar bit, or even Oghren.  Or a more direct Wynne reference into the tower.  But nope, only Anders gets a mention.

Considering Witch Hunt is, beginning to end, one big DA2 commercial that seems like a strong bit of circumstantial evidence to me.  You also hear gossip about Ferelden refugees from the blight in Kirkwall, a reference to the Warden sleeping with "a pirate woman" by Circle gossips- and two references to Anders.

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 06 février 2011 - 04:06 .

[Miri1984]

And as far as the epilogue slides go, have a read of them again - they're written very much i the style of "legends" or even rumours - they're not solid fact. They really can't be, considering each warden does things differently - if they were too specific they would really paint themselves into a corner.

Modifié par Miri1984, 06 février 2011 - 08:11 .

[Addai]

Shepard Lives wrote...

This. And even without any backstory whatsoever, he still managed to completely steal the show in Awakening. I'd say that's a character with serious potential.

Well now, that is seriously a matter of opinion.  I found him occasionally amusing but rather dull.  Of course, I didn't care to see Oghren or Isabela again either, so obviously what I consider interesting and what the writers do is sometimes  at odds.

Judging by David Gaider's comments, it was really important that the NPCs have hooks into the main story.  Anders' story could easily fit into that so I imagine it's a good guess even without mysterious screenshots.

I also think they could have decided to go with a Garrus type marketing gimmick, where the secret companion is a previously known NPC that some people want back as an LI.

[Aristorum]

It turns out that it's NOT Anders, but his twin, Flanders. He's a LI, but Hawke comes to an unpleasant end at a sporting event if the romance is completed.

[Miri1984]

*laughing* [Homer]In your face, Flanders![/Homer]

[Sharn01]

I am curious about the timeline. Doesnt awakenings take place a few years after origins, wich took about a year by itself? That would mean if it was Anders the earliest you could meet him is halfway through the game. Since he would be a warden though, it would be a reason to give the player more darkspawn fighting.

Modifié par Sharn01, 06 février 2011 - 10:25 .

[Dante Angelo]

Awakening take place two to six months after Origins. Therefore Anders may very well show up in DA:2. If he does though it might be within the 2nd or 3rd year of the story

[LupusYondergirl]

They've also said the year that coincides with Origins won't really be covered in DA2, it'll be in one of those time skips.

[Annihilator27]

He got better lol.

[Miri1984]

Awakening takes place at least six months after Origins. But I think the entire gameplay of Awakenings takes at most two months - it's not a two year job like the Blight. And DA2 time skips the first year (at least) of Hawke's time after Lothering. So he could well be there pretty early on.

[Stinkface27]

Sammyjb wrote...

Shepard Lives wrote...

He got better. It's as simple as that.

Win for ME 2 reference.

I'm fairly certain Monty Python came before Mass Effect 2 ;D

[LupusYondergirl]

Well, he does own a cat that can raise the dead.

[Dante Angelo]

Addai67 wrote...

Shepard Lives wrote...

This. And even without any backstory whatsoever, he still managed to completely steal the show in Awakening. I'd say that's a character with serious potential.

I also think they could have decided to go with a Garrus type marketing gimmick, where the secret companion is a previously known NPC that some people want back as an LI.

I wonder what he'll be called since Garrus was Archangel maybe Anders will have a badass name I wonder what it'll be

[Bladescorpion]

They'll call him Lion-O

[ThatDancingTurian]

Sharn01 wrote...

I am curious about the timeline. Doesnt awakenings take place a few years after origins, wich took about a year by itself? That would mean if it was Anders the earliest you could meet him is halfway through the game. Since he would be a warden though, it would be a reason to give the player more darkspawn fighting.

This is the second time I've seen two years represented as 'halfway through the game'. Basic math tells us it's one fifth of the way through the game, and that's not a big deal at all.

@Dante Angelo: Guardian Angel, since he's a healer?

[Riona45]

LupusYondergirl wrote...
Considering Witch Hunt is, beginning to end, one big DA2 commercial that seems like a strong bit of circumstantial evidence to me.  You also hear gossip about Ferelden refugees from the blight in Kirkwall, a reference to the Warden sleeping with "a pirate woman" by Circle gossips- and two references to Anders.

Yes, I know.  I wasn't arguing that the "mystery man" couldn't possibly be Anders, or that Anders doesn't have any more story potential as a character.  I was just pointing out that some of the "unanswered questions" about Anders that some people were bringing up have been answered, albeit not in the fullest possible way.  I mean, why cling to not-so-strong evidence when there is, as you brought up, much stronger evidence?

Modifié par Riona45, 07 février 2011 - 12:53 .

[Morning808]

Stinkface27 wrote...

Sammyjb wrote...

Shepard Lives wrote...

He got better. It's as simple as that.

Win for ME 2 reference.

I'm fairly certain Monty Python came before Mass Effect 2 ;D

Lol It is a monty python quote but he might of used it as a quote from ME2

[Addai]

Dante Angelo wrote...
 I wonder what he'll be called since Garrus was Archangel maybe Anders will have a badass name I wonder what it'll be

If he appears on the website as Ser Snarks-a-Lot, I think we'll know.

[Dante Angelo]

Bladescorpion wrote...

They'll call him Lion-O

now I'm hoping  Anders yells "Thundercats!!!!!" in the middle of battle

[LupusYondergirl]

[quote]Riona45 wrote...

[quote]LupusYondergirl wrote...
Yes, I know.  I wasn't arguing that the "mystery man" couldn't possibly be Anders, or that Anders doesn't have any more story potential as a character.  I was just pointing out that some of the "unanswered questions" about Anders that some people were bringing up have been answered, albeit not in the fullest possible way.  I mean, why cling to not-so-strong evidence when there is, as you brought up, much stronger evidence?[/quote]

No, I know you weren't arguing against him.  I'm just saying he started escaping before his Harrowing, so we still don't know why he was let back into the Circle without issue when some mages were executed for the same thing.  He did seem to get preferential treatment of some kind. 

Although it could be inconsistency with the lore not meant to imply anything else. Who knows.

[Riona45]

LupusYondergirl wrote...
No, I know you weren't arguing against him.  I'm just saying he started escaping before his Harrowing, so we still don't know why he was let back into the Circle without issue when some mages were executed for the same thing.  He did seem to get preferential treatment of some kind. 

Although it could be inconsistency with the lore not meant to imply anything else. Who knows.

True, that does sort of imply preferential treatment.  Although, I just remembered that the other mage you mentioned, Anerein, was an elf.  It's possible that racism played a role (at least partially) in a situation where a human mage was returned to the tower and ultimately let off the hook for escaping and an elven mage just got run through and left for dead.

[Miri1984]

I often thought Anerein might have run into a couple of particularly racist Templars. It would make sense. But there are a couple of dialogue options as an elven mage that make it pretty clear that elves are treated the same as humans in the Tower. Sparkly fingers are more important than pointy ears, IYKWIM .

[sevalaricgirl]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

I am curious about the timeline. Doesnt awakenings take place a few years after origins, wich took about a year by itself? That would mean if it was Anders the earliest you could meet him is halfway through the game. Since he would be a warden though, it would be a reason to give the player more darkspawn fighting.

This is the second time I've seen two years represented as 'halfway through the game'. Basic math tells us it's one fifth of the way through the game, and that's not a big deal at all.

@Dante Angelo: Guardian Angel, since he's a healer?

Awakening was 6 months after the end of Origins from what I've read.

"The events of Awakening[/i] begin six months after the conclusion of Dragon Age: Origins[/i]."  It very possibly can be Anders and I for one hope it is.

Modifié par sevalaricgirl, 07 février 2011 - 03:24 .