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Miri1984 wrote...

I often thought Anerein might have run into a couple of particularly racist Templars. It would make sense. But there are a couple of dialogue options as an elven mage that make it pretty clear that elves are treated the same as humans in the Tower. Sparkly fingers are more important than pointy ears, IYKWIM :).


I seriously doubt that there would be no racism at all in a human-run institution (the Circle, and by extension the Chantry) in a society in which humans are the privileged group.  The Circle isn't a vacuum, after all.

Modifié par Riona45, 07 février 2011 - 04:37 .


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Oh, I absolutely agree. But Wynne and to a lesser extent the Surana warden seem to think otherwise. I suspect it's subtle. But when a group are being oppressed it's sometimes difficult to tell if people are being disdainful of you because you're an elf or disdainful of you because you're a mage.

Modifié par Miri1984, 07 février 2011 - 05:18 .


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Miri1984 wrote...

Oh, I absolutely agree. But Wynne and to a lesser extent the Surana warden seem to think otherwise.


Well, Wynne isn't an elf and therefore is a member of the privileged group (humans), whether she would want to be or not.

Modifié par Riona45, 07 février 2011 - 05:11 .


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Miri1984 wrote...

I often thought Anerein might have run into a couple of particularly racist Templars. It would make sense. But there are a couple of dialogue options as an elven mage that make it pretty clear that elves are treated the same as humans in the Tower. Sparkly fingers are more important than pointy ears, IYKWIM :).

Fiona does say of the Circle that, though she was glad to get out of sexual slavery to go there, that "it wasn't much different."  I guess that can be interpreted various ways.  But it does make you wonder if maybe Anders has connections.  Hmm, interesting thought.

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Anders was a crime lord this whole time, he's just so sneaky the Chantry and the Warden never realized it?

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I think it's Anders' brother, Flanders: "Hi-diddly-ho, Hawkerino!"

Modifié par Sabariel, 07 février 2011 - 05:28 .


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Miri1984

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@ Filament He and Godwin at the mages circle were running a massively profitable Lyrium and erotic accessories smuggling ring.

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Addai67 wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I often thought Anerein might have run into a couple of particularly racist Templars. It would make sense. But there are a couple of dialogue options as an elven mage that make it pretty clear that elves are treated the same as humans in the Tower. Sparkly fingers are more important than pointy ears, IYKWIM :).

Fiona does say of the Circle that, though she was glad to get out of sexual slavery to go there, that "it wasn't much different."  I guess that can be interpreted various ways. 


But that would be the circle in Val Royeaux... I am quite sure there are different cultures and ethoi in different circles. She may also have been referring to the fact that she simply moved from one type of servitude, that of a pleasure slave, to another, that of a mage in an Andrastian society.

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Maria13 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I often thought Anerein might have run into a couple of particularly racist Templars. It would make sense. But there are a couple of dialogue options as an elven mage that make it pretty clear that elves are treated the same as humans in the Tower. Sparkly fingers are more important than pointy ears, IYKWIM :).

Fiona does say of the Circle that, though she was glad to get out of sexual slavery to go there, that "it wasn't much different."  I guess that can be interpreted various ways. 


But that would be the circle in Val Royeaux... I am quite sure there are different cultures and ethoi in different circles. She may also have been referring to the fact that she simply moved from one type of servitude, that of a pleasure slave, to another, that of a mage in an Andrastian society.


Besides, many of the human mages/templars will have experienced the outside world before coming to the tower, so they would still have some of society's general beliefs ingrained in them. It's like when you talk to Leliana as an elf. Despite not being racist in a cruel way, she still has a set of pre-definied ideas about their race because of society. They may not be overtly racist in the tower, but it probably affects people's preconceptions and behaviour subtly.
As for Anerin, doesn't Wynne say something in a different conversation about hearing a rumour that some templars are particularly cruel when hunting apostates? Anerin might just have had the poor luck to have encountered one of those.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 07 février 2011 - 02:12 .


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Looks like Anders, indeed, still has plenty more to teach us! :wub:

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And !!!

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Modifié par Miri1984, 07 février 2011 - 07:18 .


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I remember when this rumour first surfaced.... I was squinting at that screenshot of a blurry Anders behind Aveline all, "That.... CAN'T be..... NO WAY...." and I was really, REALLY HOPEFUL.... but EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL....

It feels so good to know we'll get Anders back! I loved him so much! SO. MUCH.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 07 février 2011 - 07:33 .


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Anders is in what a surprise, That screenshot has been around forever and now we have proof lol.

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Simply overjoyed at the GI semi-confirmation. I hope he's still just as fun as in Awakening. I also hope that he'll be in the demo!

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What happened?? Someone tell me! I'm guessing it was something in print? Feel free to PM :P

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RosaAquafire wrote...

What happened?? Someone tell me! I'm guessing it was something in print? Feel free to PM :P


http://social.biowar...1/index/5957698

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RosaAquafire wrote...

What happened?? Someone tell me! I'm guessing it was something in print? Feel free to PM :P


Yes, please tell me too. D=  I am sooo confused right now.

Ninja'd!  Thanks. :3

Modifié par MorningBird, 07 février 2011 - 07:48 .


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Oh no!  Now we have to put up with all the Andermancers! :P

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Anders is ok

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So, does this mean we will be sacrificing Pounce-a-lot in DA2? Cause that's what I'm looking forward.

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RosaAquafire

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Squee, so excited. Assuming he's an LI, we're looking at GREAT female LIs this game. Isabela, Fenris, and Anders. Lovely!

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RosaAquafire wrote...

Squee, so excited. Assuming he's an LI, we're looking at GREAT female LIs this game. Isabela, Fenris, and Anders. Lovely!


Are you assuming about Fenris or did I miss something??

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Miri1984 wrote...

And !!!

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Well heck, if we got the 11th Doctor in this forum .. and since he can travel through Time ... then Anders must be in game!  Posted Image