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#51
ThatDancingTurian

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I hope it's Anders. I never played Awakening, so to me it won't be rehashing, but I think for those that have they would surely come up with a new angle to his interaction. BW had no problem creating new stories for Tali and Garrus in ME2, and Garrus in particular had some very noticeable changes from the time lapse. Who knows what's happened with Anders since we last saw him? Maybe he did indeed join Isabel's pirate crew and during that time he Took A Level In Badass.

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Melness wrote...


Half of the party would be familiar faces to DAO players so to speak.


No, they wouldn't. Merril, Isabela aren't familiar* and Anders wouldn't be the same person from before (something that can also be said about Merril and Isabela), specially Merril - depending on your Warden being or not being a Dalish.

*What do we know of them?

Merril is an apprentice Keeper.

Isabela is a pirate lady who inherited the ship from her Crow'd husband.

That's hardly anything to make anyone familiar.

AND that is all without even counting the future. How will Isabela, Anders or Merril handle the future events, of which we don't know much about? You talk as if that is predictable.


I'm just saying how "I" currently see them and why a new char would be more exciting FOR ME than Anders. Isa and Mer just seem more familiar than Aveline, Fenris and Varric simply because I had briefly encountered them before even if the actual info about them is slim. Even so I want to get to know them better, with Anders not so much. I would just prefer someone new and unknown to Anders even if new things would happen to Anders anyway.

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Boring might be the wrong word. Repetitive and playing way to much into the Dwarf stereotype (without acknowledging it). To me it was overall slightly embarrassing

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If it is Anders, do you think he will have a new voice actor?

Merril and Isabela does, so I guess its likely. The quality of the voice acting makes or breaks a character for me.

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Greg Ellis is conspicuously silent about whether or not he's in DA2. But I'm thinking it will be him, considering he voiced.. oh god, about 50% of the male Origins characters? (the other 50% were voiced by Jowan). If he did soo much work for Origins I can't see him turning down work for DA2, even if he is in the new Pirates of the Carribean movie.

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Also anders is like a level 20+ Mage when we meet him and this would be before most f the 10 year story of da2. Just sayin'

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Isa and Mer just seem more familiar than Aveline, Fenris and Varric simply because I had briefly encountered them before even if the actual info about them is slim.


I know how its your opinion but I simply can't understand it. Sure, you already knew that they existed but they didn't have any development and now not even their looks or voice is the same...


Rimfrost wrote...

Also anders is like a level 20+ Mage when we meet him and this would be before most f the 10 year story of da2. Just sayin'


Gameplay and Story Segregation. Levels don't really exist.

Modifié par Melness, 03 février 2011 - 02:13 .


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Modifié par Melness, 03 février 2011 - 02:13 .


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I have to say, I was disappointed by the characterization of Anders in Awakening. I thought he was a great idea, but ended up showing very little depth, in spite of the fact that he had all the tools (repeatedly escaping the Circle? That's gotta leave a mark on you somehow, good or bad). I can see where they might be interested in returning to the character and doing more with him.

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Really, they won't care about levels - that's game mechanics, not story. Do you really think the darkspawn at Ostagar were miraculously easier to defeat than the ones in the deep roads or at the battle of Denerim?

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Hypothetically, they'll probably scale his level to match the rest the rest of the party when you first get him. It's not that uncommon to do that.

Modifié par Haverrun, 03 février 2011 - 02:17 .


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Rimfrost

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The level thing was mostly in jest.



I agree with Nova that the character was a good idea but poorly executed for laughs. Perhaps retold he will gain some gravitas

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Miri1984 wrote...

Greg Ellis is conspicuously silent about whether or not he's in DA2. But I'm thinking it will be him, considering he voiced.. oh god, about 50% of the male Origins characters? (the other 50% were voiced by Jowan). If he did soo much work for Origins I can't see him turning down work for DA2, even if he is in the new Pirates of the Carribean movie.


LOL I noticed that Jowan's VA did many other voices - t'was a little creepy at times :lol:
Here's hoping that Anders (Greg Ellis) and Ser Pounce Alot return :wub:

Modifié par Ninotchka, 03 février 2011 - 02:19 .


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Nova-FoV wrote...

I have to say, I was disappointed by the characterization of Anders in Awakening. I thought he was a great idea, but ended up showing very little depth, in spite of the fact that he had all the tools (repeatedly escaping the Circle? That's gotta leave a mark on you somehow, good or bad). I can see where they might be interested in returning to the character and doing more with him.


This is one of the reasons I think he might be coming back. All the other companions in Awakening had arcs where they came to terms with something about themselves. Anders just didn't. I didn't find him boring at all, because he was a fully formed character and one that I found quite enjoyable, but he is who he is, from beginning to end. I definitely see room for him to grow, and it seems like the plot of DA2 is particularly well-suited for someone of his background.

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If it is Anders I think the way you find out about him will be after recruiting Isabella and will probably go something like this:

Isabella: You don't expect to do this alone do you?
Hawke: Do what alone?
Isabella: Whatever it is we're doing( I don't know the plot for DA2 but anyways)
Hawke: I'm not doing this alone I've got Allies
Isabella: But you could always use more help
Hawke: What are you suggesting?
Isabella: I'm suggesting we get more allies and I know someone who could be of great use to us
Hawke: And who might this person be?
Isabella: His name is Anders he use to travel with the hero of fereldan
Hawke: How do you know this Anders?
Isabella: He was a crewmate on my ship for a while and he's a mage
Hawke: Fine I guess I could try to find this Anders
Isabella: Good also I hope you don't mind cats
Hawke: Cats??
Isabella: You'll see

I think it will go something like that just my opinion if this is indeed Anders

Modifié par Dante Angelo, 03 février 2011 - 03:04 .


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I've been thinking and I really can't see Anders being in this game. Merrill and him are both apostates, its not a good balance. In DAO you had a good mage Wynne, and a benevelent one Morrigan. Unless they make it where Merrill uses her blood magic powers for good sense she is a elf, and Anders uses his powers for selfish reasons. That's the only way I can see it working, just my opinion though. Two apostates is just too much.

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Btw, bringing Anders back wouldn't fit the timeline. Let's say DAO takes place over 1-2 years. Awakening picks up 6 months later and I'd guess it lasts a couple of months.

DA2 starts some time after Ostagar, which means Anders would be unavailable for the first 2-3 years. So you either have to pretend Awakening never happened or get Anders somewhat late in the game and THEN ignore many of the epilogues.




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Even if Anders is in DA2, he may be a cameo and not be a companion.

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Throrf wrote...

Btw, bringing Anders back wouldn't fit the timeline. Let's say DAO takes place over 1-2 years. Awakening picks up 6 months later and I'd guess it lasts a couple of months.
DA2 starts some time after Ostagar, which means Anders would be unavailable for the first 2-3 years. So you either have to pretend Awakening never happened or get Anders somewhat late in the game and THEN ignore many of the epilogues.

DA2 spans a decade, so... That'd pretty much be like how you had to wait to pick up Zevran. Plus you could have met him pre-Awakening, then he disappears for a bit during one of the lapses, then comes back. Doesn't seem like a huge problem.

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I didn't count the time before Awakening because when we first met him he was being taken back to the tower after yet another escape. I doubt he'd manage to get all the way to the free marches. Ofc it's possible that Hawke met him while he/she was still traveling from Ferelden... Yea, that could work. You briefly meet him, he helps you with something (or vice versa), you run to Kirkwall and he joins you some time later. Ofc that's assuming there's a canon ending to Awakening or that we simply ignore it. We'll see :)

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Was Oghren ever such a mess of choices that Anders could be now? He could be a Grey Warden or have deserted or have escaped the Templars or faked his own death.

EDIT: Why did I type Varric instead of Oghren? 

Modifié par Russalka, 03 février 2011 - 12:03 .


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it could be Finn, actually. I rather hope so.

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I killed Wynne... She didn't show up, so I trust BW.

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Riosred wrote...

here check it out - first post....standing next to Aveline...sure looks like him



http://social.biowar...index/5405591/1


So...who's the templar between Hawke and Isabela in the background? If this is a picture of Hawke's companions and I count 8, then perhaps there is more to this than we know.
anyway, Wynne was able to come back form the dead, so Anders could too...

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youngzman wrote...
To get on topic: I'd be on the neutral about having Anders back. I do think he's incredibly awesome for escaping the Circle that much, and due to the fact that he HAS escaped the Circle that much, it makes me wonder about the Templar's efficiency.


I have a sneaky suspicion the templars let him go deliberately, just so they could be rid of him.