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[KBomb]

Well, I’m not gushing over anyone, but I would be thrilled if Anders were in the game. It’s hard to say whether he is the one in the screenshot, but it does certainly look like him. I’d be happy if he were a companion or a cameo, the former would be delicious, however.


Afterthought: What is so terrible about people gushing over a character anyway. I have heard so many people complain about this. Why so serious?

[Dante Angelo]

Miri1984 wrote...

Fenris isn't a love interest yet either!

Why would you want Fenris as a love intrest. You should want Lloyd the redcliffe bartender as a LI you could tell that guy was a womanizer( probably not a succesful womanizer)

[Russalka]

It generally removes the chance to discuss the flaws of a character, those who talk about them in the gush thread are ignored or told off, those who make a new thread about it are closed off and pointed towards the gush thread.

But there is also a problem with those who have negative opinions, they are often not very eloquent about it.

I am open towards all outcomes, and I have the free will to dislike the overly confident opinions about the appearance of Anders.

Modifié par Russalka, 03 février 2011 - 09:09 .

[Addai]

Fangirl wars are so boring. Face it, from the outside looking in, ANY fangirl cut-loose area looks nutty. Get over yourselves dude(tte)s.

[KBomb]

Russalka wrote...

It generally removes the chance to discuss the flaws of a character, those who talk about them in the gush thread are ignored or told off, those who make a new thread about it are closed off and pointed towards the gush thread.

But there is also a problem with those who have negative opinions, they are often not very eloquent about it.

I am open towards all outcomes, and I have the free will to dislike the overly confident opinions about the appearance of Anders.

You make a good point there. I respect opinions that differ from my own, as long as others respect my choice to disagree, but I know what you mean. I have seen people go off because someone didn’t like a character or even a specific thing about a character--which is ridiculous. However, I see nothing wrong with someone having a favorite and making that known, as long as they realize their favorite may not be everyone else’s.
Anders is probably going to be my favorite if he is in-game, though.

[Miri1984]

@Russalka I am sorry that my happiness makes you sad.

[Addai]

Russalka wrote...

It generally removes the chance to discuss the flaws of a character, those who talk about them in the gush thread are ignored or told off, those who make a new thread about it are closed off and pointed towards the gush thread.

But there is also a problem with those who have negative opinions, they are often not very eloquent about it.

I am open towards all outcomes, and I have the free will to dislike the overly confident opinions about the appearance of Anders.

Any time you have a fan-heavy area, common sense says tread carefully with criticism.  We're all human beings and the internet is what it is.  That said, there have been... I dunno, how many? millions?... of "Alistair is whiny" or Alistair vs. Loghain type threads.  If fans want an area where the character is almost always right, is that soooo egregious?  I think it's pretty unfair to paint large swathes of fandom with the brush that was probably only inked up by a few individuals.

I'm pretty confident it's Anders, but I'm not an Anders fangirl.  A lot of things just make sense about him being in DA2.  Of course, none of us really knows.

[Throrf]

About Seb...

http://social.biowar...05591/8#5674420

http://social.biowar...05591/8#5674632

Look closely and judge for yourself



Sorry, it's been bugging me...

[Aoba]

Shepard Lives wrote...

He got better. It's as simple as that.

Ha, that reminds me of some dialogue I came across in Fallout New Vegas when my character comes face-to-face once more with the man who shot her. One of the choices you can respond with after his initial comment is "I got better." Giggled for, like, five minutes straight. Yeah, I'm easily amused.  

Okay, back on-topic.

You know, I can't believe there's still so much denial in this thread. Did part of BSN move to Egypt when I wasn't looking? *shakes her head* Y' all can continue to deny it if you wish, but this gal *points to herself* says Anders will be the human male mage companion. I'd link folks to my analysis of "Anders" and Anders, which I think is proof enough, but feel it'll just fall on blind eyes, so I won't waste my time.

Don't want Anders in your group? Don't recruit him. Simple enough, aye? And if he's a forced party member, deal with it or kill him. [fangirlmode]We wouldn't want his awesomeness wasted on those who can't appreciate it, anyway. [/fangirlmode]

monimakitten wrote...

If it is Anders, do you think he will have a new voice actor?
Merril and Isabela does, so I guess its likely. The quality of the voice acting makes or breaks a character for me.

If Greg Ellis isn't "Anders'" VA, fur is gonna fly; a lot of it, actually. I've got two Persian cats, so y' know, they've got a lot of fur to spare.

Modifié par ACWolfe, 03 février 2011 - 09:58 .

[Dante Angelo]

Addai67 wrote...

Russalka wrote...

It generally removes the chance to discuss the flaws of a character, those who talk about them in the gush thread are ignored or told off, those who make a new thread about it are closed off and pointed towards the gush thread.

But there is also a problem with those who have negative opinions, they are often not very eloquent about it.

I am open towards all outcomes, and I have the free will to dislike the overly confident opinions about the appearance of Anders.

I'm pretty confident it's Anders, but I'm not an Anders fangirl.  A lot of things just make sense about him being in DA2.  Of course, none of us really knows.

David Gaider knows of course then again thats a given

[Miri1984]

He's happily anticipating the howls of outrage and/or tears when Anders is revealed. Stroking his white cat. Like the supervillain he is.

[Eudaemonium]

David Gaider is the Maker. I don't think he really counts.

[Riosred]

About seb, do you think they would make two different archers that closely identical and not be same guy? Another suggestion..they said companions gear will upgrade automatically?....just speculating here....

[Addai]

Miri1984 wrote...

He's happily anticipating the howls of outrage and/or tears when Anders is revealed. Stroking his white cat. Like the supervillain he is.

Or the howls of disappointment if it's not.  It's a win-win.

[Miri1984]

Absolutely! The man is a perfect engineer of despair.

[SurelyForth]

Miri1984 wrote...

Absolutely! The man is a perfect engineer of despair.

I'm pretty sure he has that on his business cards. 

And if he doesn't, he really should. 

[Addai]

I look forward to finding graffiti in the Fereldan district of Kirkwall that says ANDERS NEVER LOVED YOU



P.S. for the unaware- this is a joke.  It refers to this thread.

Modifié par Addai67, 03 février 2011 - 11:55 .

[Felfenix]

Anders will just be a cameo, not a party member.



Ser-Pounce-A-Lot will be the party member. XP

[LupusYondergirl]

Russalka wrote...

It generally removes the chance to discuss the flaws of a character, those who talk about them in the gush thread are ignored or told off, those who make a new thread about it are closed off and pointed towards the gush thread.

But there is also a problem with those who have negative opinions, they are often not very eloquent about it.

I am open towards all outcomes, and I have the free will to dislike the overly confident opinions about the appearance of Anders.

...buh?

Half the reason people who are current fans of Anders like him is because of his flaws.  Perfect characters are painfully dull and sweet characters can be, well, boring.  Anders is an admitted commitmentphobe, probably more than a bit of a womanizer, and despite his love of freedom, can't be bothered to do anything for other mages "because it sounds hard."  He seriously screwed over at least one former lover we know of (to the point that she sent him into a deathtrap) and probably killed those templars.

He will also return to help you with the darkspawn even if you let him to run and promise to tell the templars he's dead.  For all his escapes, he's apparently never fought back when recaptured (or they would have killed him), and shows a  concern for lives well beyond what any of the companions in the game express- such as in the woods and at the end when presented with the option to raze Amaranthine.  (The reactions to the lost lives in Redcliffe, among Branka's family, the peasants who attack you in lothering... all minimal to nothing.  Even the "good" Alistair and Leliana barely utter a peep.)

IMO, that makes for a fairly interesting bit of characterization, even with how shallowly Awakening delves into the companions.

And really, a lack of eloquence on the part of his detractors is hardly the fault of Anders' fans.  If they can't express themselves clearly that is no one's problem but their own.   

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 04 février 2011 - 12:34 .

[Miri1984]

THIS ^

[Wedger]

Miri1984 wrote...

THIS ^

QFT

[Riona45]

LupusYondergirl wrote...
He will also return to help you with the darkspawn even if you let him to run and promise to tell the templars he's dead.  For all his escapes, he's apparently never fought back when recaptured (or they would have killed him), and shows a  concern for lives well beyond what any of the companions in the game express- such as in the woods and at the end when presented with the option to raze Amaranthine.  (The reactions to the lost lives in Redcliffe, among Branka's family, the peasants who attack you in lothering... all minimal to nothing.  Even the "good" Alistair and Leliana barely utter a peep.)

(emphasis mine)

Just to be fair, I've watched a video in which Sigrun also pleads on behalf of the people of Amaranthine, and begs you to send her in alone to help if you aren't willing to do anything.  That doesn't challenge your point about Anders being a good guy, but in that case I think his compassion is at least matched by Sigrun.

Modifié par Riona45, 04 février 2011 - 06:06 .

[Miri1984]

Oh Sigrun ROCKS. I love her so much. But I think Lupus was referring more to our Origins companions, who do show a marked lack of concern for things like, oh, murdering people who just want coin for food. Alistair makes a few token objections to killing Isolde or Connor, and Zevran makes a great case for saving the Dalish, but they seem to be motivated by personal experience and/or knowing the people involved rather than the general compassion shown by Anders and Sigrun.



On the other hand, Nathaniel seems EXTREMELY blaze about burning down the city in which his SISTER and potential NEICE/NEPHEW are living.

[dreamextractor]

ACWolfe wrote...

Shepard Lives wrote...

He got better. It's as simple as that.

Ha, that reminds me of some dialogue I came across in Fallout New Vegas when my character comes face-to-face once more with the man who shot her. One of the choices you can respond with after his initial comment is "I got better." Giggled for, like, five minutes straight. Yeah, I'm easily amused.  

Okay, back on-topic.

You know, I can't believe there's still so much denial in this thread. Did part of BSN move to Egypt when I wasn't looking? *shakes her head* Y' all can continue to deny it if you wish, but this gal *points to herself* says Anders will be the human male mage companion. I'd link folks to my analysis of "Anders" and Anders, which I think is proof enough, but feel it'll just fall on blind eyes, so I won't waste my time.

Don't want Anders in your group? Don't recruit him. Simple enough, aye? And if he's a forced party member, deal with it or kill him. [fangirlmode]We wouldn't want his awesomeness wasted on those who can't appreciate it, anyway. [/fangirlmode]

Considering what's been going on in Egypt I would hope not 

Miri1984 wrote...

On the other hand, Nathaniel seems EXTREMELY blaze about
burning down the city in which his SISTER and potential NEICE/NEPHEW
are living.

rotfl. I never really realized that, and I had Nathaniel in my party for it.

Modifié par dreamextractor, 04 février 2011 - 06:46 .