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[Highlen]

Yes, best thing I did was Hold everyone, but click all party members run to a room far back to the left only she will follow you and 2 archers( I have Liliana as a ranger and summoned a bear before the fight btw) so you can have a total of 5 players. make sure you have wynne to group heal and have alot of potions and poulices with you for my strategy to work.

now to the fun part its going to start sounding like world of warcarft raid how i did it....

1. Aoe to kill the archers real quick that follow her(that's why if you use wynne to heal you need alot of lyrium potions because she will heal and use her offensive spells)

2. have your tank(which was my main) or Alistair get aggro make sure you unleash the bear on her its just another body for her to hit to keep your other party members safe.

3. kite her with your tank run around if you have good aggro she will always follow you regardless what you do with your mage or rogue.(note always place life ward on your tank and make sure your spirit healer as cleansing aura)

4. your bear and rogue(whom ever has a ranger spec Liliana for me) will hit her in her back to get the flanking crit also backstab if your a rogue and also you can go long range if needed(so you should have 2 weapon builds for your rogue)

5. pause ever time you see her swinging animation start for a huge swing this is the time when you get ready to either queue a heal/group heal from your mage and queue your tank to glup a health poulice. Becuase that the move that takes 100+

7. knock her down with the rock move that primal mages have(if you have it to give ur self time to heal your tank)

6. rinse and repeat.(my way works but takes a long time to get her down because she really not meant to lose)



With my team build

My PC (warrior) Alistair, Wynne, and Liliana this way worked to get a victory but I didn't save off this victory I just did it over again and surrender during my real play through since it fit the story better i just wanted to see if I can beat

her and you can sad you don't get any achievement I was pissed to because my heroic achievements didn't even say she was my hardest foe slain.

any way sad thing I had to treat it like a raid took me back to my wow days....

and I paused about 50 times in that battle.

Modifié par Highlen, 14 novembre 2009 - 09:24 .

[Zilod]

with good mages is not an hard fight... run back to previous room, use blizzard (if you have morrigan you should go for it) + another aoe dot as storm, inferno or death cloud... then deal with her. hex line works pretty well to debuff her if not try to unload various stuns or mage cc to lower her dps and help the healers to keep the tank up



about healing, get regenerate, it works pretty well in conjunction with heal vs slow hitters

[Eskarne]

Highlen wrote...
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Rogue dammit, Rogue!

[Highlen]

Eskarne wrote...

Highlen wrote...
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Rogue dammit, Rogue!

lol sorry

[Eskarne]

Highlen wrote...

Eskarne wrote...

Highlen wrote...
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Rogue dammit, Rogue!

lol sorry

Thank you 

[xGoblinlordx]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

By his late teen levels, nothing could touch my Arcane Warrior when he had Fade Shroud, Shimmering Shield, Death Magic, Telekinetic Weapons, Arcane Armor, Spell Wisp and Rock Armor activated. Barely anything could hit him, the things that did hit didn't do much damage (even though he wore a robe!), and if there were a few non-elite enemies around to kill, Death Magic and the occasional potion kept him at full health. He literally soloed the Archdemon using the above.

Ser Cauthrien had no chance. My mage crowd controlled her, blasted her and her henchmen, then activated God Mode.

Sounds like how my AW mage did it.  Actually, wanted to see if I could do it without CC or pulling into the hall.  My party died except for my AW Mage in Massive armor.  The walking brick of death just systematically walked through the room slowly killing everything one by one.  Sounds like you had almost same build as mine ^^.  Though I picked up Spell Might for another +16 spellpower and I also found Miasma to make his god-like avoidance ability even more insane... as well as increasing his hit rate.  Also a note on that... Frost/Flaming weapons seems to be better than telekinetic (I had 3 mages keeping up one each).  The frost and flaming seem to scale really high (flaming seems to scale the best) but telekinetic seems to be either cap at 9 armor pen at a low spellpower of around 60 less or it is a static bonus of 9 armor pen.

Modifié par xGoblinlordx, 14 novembre 2009 - 12:29 .

[Darin2483]

Run out of the room after the cutscene where Cauthrien pretends that you care what she and her little sword think and bombard the entire room (once you are in the hallway, away from the archers). Traps in the hallway near the door if you have it, try to lay out her 2 personal goons quickly while you have her as debuffed as possible. What makes this encounter relatively easier is the fact that you can see what she is attacking very easily, i.e. you know what's coming and on which character, so be ready with the healing.



My encounter was using Sten/Zev/Morrigan and my Blood/Spirit Healer Mage PC. After cutscene:

Morrigan->Sleep->Waking Nightmare room if some resist(or whatever CC you have, this is done so my Mage gets a clean Blood Wound off, archers spamstunning=bad day for me)->Affliction/Death Hex Cath (keep her debuffed)->Heal, a lot.

Sten->get ready to be raped->Taunt as needed, dont waste energy->Indominable and Threaten on

Zev->mop up Cath's bodyguards->Use Dirty Fighting as needed (unless the **** resists)

Me->Blood Control the Mage in the center (so he isn't causing me any initial headaches, which Mages always do)->Blood Wound room from doorway(hopefully Cath doesnt resist)

Everyone in hallway.

Me->Inferno & Tempest room from hallway, keep Sten alive. After Tempest mana & health (Blood Mage) conserved exclusively in the hallway for Sten, or whichever other arbitrary party member that Cauth's capricious nature compels her to decapitate for that matter.

[Starhaus]

Easiest way is to run down the hall you came from after the cutscene. That's right RUN. All the ranged troops will stay behind while only Ser Cauthrien and 2-3 knights will follow. That makes the fight a LOT easier.

Ser Cauthrien has massive spell resistance, so obvious tactics like Petrify+Crushing Prison will not work, (it might be possible in easy mode, but I haven't tried that yet.) However, she is vulnerable to direct physical and elemental attack, so Cone of Cold and Stonefist are great here, allowing you to keep putting distance between yourself and her while your companions do most of the damage as they chase her, chasing you.

Although I haven't tried it, I would think repulsion wards would also work great, since there are lots of doorways and places to trap things.

After Ser Cauthrien, the rest of the troops are easy.

[Draguling]

It was a fun battle actually, and I never liked the thought of getting captured so I just kept reloading until I finally succeeded.

[MFCell]

I beat it easily in the main room by using taunt and force fielding Al right after. He only needs to taunt->potion when it wears off, which accounts for the small break in being able to chain it on him, anyways.

Modifié par MFCell, 21 novembre 2009 - 06:45 .

[Raxxman]

the AI bugged out massively on my fight with the walkin LOLdamager.



She insisted on chasing Morrigan, and she chased her into the libary and around the book shelves, the rest of the party cleared up and came in, whereby they chipped her health down as she doggedly chased the mage around and around and around untill she died.



My plan was to just overwhelm her with dps, I play on nightmare and she cheeses out of CC with it being 1/4 the duration, stuns don't do a lot, and she's attacking again before the CoC animation is completed. So yeah, powered on all the posions and barraged her for all my guys were worth, got her down to half health like that before she went Coo coo with the AI.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Yes, it's entirely doable.

[Zenocrate]

I must have my arcane warrior built slightly wrong. Nothing else really damages it but Cauthrien still managed to hit him like a truck. It was possible to beat her but it was a bit of a trick to heal.

[Starhaus]

Just letting Ser Cauthrien take you to jail (Fort Drakar) is more fun though as you can either break out on your own or let your companions do it for you. Funny dialog throughout and much easier, but you won't get Cauthrien's two-handed sword, Summer. The stats on it are not that great, but I ended up killing Ser anyway to see what it looked like.

[Raynadon]

...I didn't even know that surrendering was a viable option, I thought you had to beat her and that she was just tough. Oh well, wasn't too bad with blizzard / cone

[Foxd1e]

You get a second chance right before the Landsmeet to fight her and her four cronies. It's a much more even fight, you get to do the cool Fort Drakon miniquest and you get her sword Summer so it's win-win-win why not?

[ShinriS]

I just love how everyone gets mad at Anora for 'double-crossing' you. In truth, you double-crossed her first if she does double cross you, because the plan was to keep her presence secret and you went ahead and said something to the effect of, 'But she's right here! Tell 'em, Anora!'



I don't really have anything else to say that hasn't been said other than that unless you REALLY want that sword which you'll get later on anyway, you should just let her kill you.

[nuculerman]

Hawkules wrote...

Run your tank in, taunt, force field him, win.

Worked for me.

That doesn't work.  Unless you also run everyone else out.  Which defeats the whole purpose of doing that.  The only way to win this fight is to cheese it and get away from the archers.  Anyone claiming otherwise can post a video because they're lying.  The archers kill everyone in a party in 4 seconds flat.  Screw Cauthean and her 120 damage per hit.  That's manageable.  8 AoE Stuns with fire arrows?  You can't do anything about that.  Even if you get them to shoot at your tank...it's a chain attack...fire arrows will hit every party member.  If you just send your tank toward her, force field him, and try to do ANYTHING ELSE, this is what will happen; everyone will die in five seconds and your tank will die 2 seconds after the force field comes down.

The fight was clearly not meant to be won.  You're supposed to lose.  If you want more proof try casting earthquake on the archers.  Not a single one will fall.  Ever.  The only way you'd be able to pull of this fight without running out of the room is if you had two mages that could aoe stun quickly.  Then have them both cast AoE attacks on the archer groups powerful enough to kill them all before they can attack again.  I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure you can pull this off with Morrigan maxed out in cold and lightning and glyffs and your PC maxed out in inferno and blood magic and glyffs.  (well first three glyffs in either case).  Otherwise you better run out of the room.  I really don't care how good you are at this game.  There's no way to defend against four archers all hitting every party member with stuns and fire arrows at the same time.  Your party will die.

[Ninjaphrog]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

By his late teen levels, nothing could touch my Arcane Warrior when he had Fade Shroud, Shimmering Shield, Death Magic, Telekinetic Weapons, Arcane Armor, Spell Wisp and Rock Armor activated. Barely anything could hit him, the things that did hit didn't do much damage (even though he wore a robe!), and if there were a few non-elite enemies around to kill, Death Magic and the occasional potion kept him at full health. He literally soloed the Archdemon using the above.

Ser Cauthrien had no chance. My mage crowd controlled her, blasted her and her henchmen, then activated God Mode.

1) you cannot have that many things activated....epic fail...
2) unless you play on noob zone easy, something will always hit....epic fail...
3) With a robe you're doomed to get a ton of damage from big boss hits...epic fail...

conclusion: Piece of s*** liar.

Possible reason: His arcane warrior sucks ass but meh it's his strongest character.

[WickedAwesome]

Ninjaphrog wrote...
1) you cannot have that many things activated....epic fail...
2) unless you play on noob zone easy, something will always hit....epic fail...
3) With a robe you're doomed to get a ton of damage from big boss hits...epic fail...

conclusion: Piece of s*** liar.

Possible reason: His arcane warrior sucks ass but meh it's his strongest character.

GB2MMO

Just kidding!

Seriously though

Modifié par WickedAwesome, 23 novembre 2009 - 08:47 .

[Deadly]

just lower the difficulty, lol

[BanditGR]

nuculerman wrote...

Hawkules wrote...

Run your tank in, taunt, force field him, win.

Worked for me.

That doesn't work.  Unless you also run everyone else out.  Which defeats the whole purpose of doing that.  The only way to win this fight is to cheese it and get away from the archers.  Anyone claiming otherwise can post a video because they're lying.  The archers kill everyone in a party in 4 seconds flat.  Screw Cauthean and her 120 damage per hit.  That's manageable.  8 AoE Stuns with fire arrows?  You can't do anything about that.
....

I really don't care how good you are at this game.  There's no way to defend against four archers all hitting every party member with stuns and fire arrows at the same time.  Your party will die.

Sorry to break this to you, but it is entirely possible to incapacitate the archers by throwing a sleep in the middle of them before they have a chance to do anything life-threatening (worst case you will get a stun but not before sleep is already "on its way"). Then you can deal with them in any number of ways, freeze/lightning/shock/waking nightmare/fireball whatever. You most certainly don't need to run out of the room. As for Cauthrien most of what I'd say has already been mentioned. Yes, she can most certainly gib even powerful companions and/or the main char (depending on build). The force field is one of the things you can do, to "cheese" it. I personally used an obsene amount of healing poultices, along with rejuvenation running and normal healing. To be perfectly honest I wasn't even aware that you get to a new area/quest if you don't beat her

[TcheQ]

What's wrong with going to prison?  It's superfun diversion.  Then you just have to fight her in the atrium. 

Nevertheless, you have to use ranged. (need at least two people for this)

If you have a super tank (high armor) try to get cauthrien to attack this person while the rest of your party cleans up the archers.  If you can, try force field - but this has very limited effect on Nightmare.

Party Stunned
Party Stunned
Cauthrien strikes with Chicken of the Beyondess.
All die.

Modifié par TcheQ, 23 novembre 2009 - 09:55 .

[menasure]

i could not beat this fight. the thing is: either you'll have a party member which is to slow to move, a stun triggered too fast or ser cauthrien attacking the wrong party member, that is provided you even have a tank which can handle the damage, the necessary healing and mage(s) and melees with the skills and enough potions to win this fight.
i have no character with a shield skill to start with which means i'm pretty much done for. wasted 6 hours on reloading before i realized that you do not even have to win.

Modifié par menasure, 23 novembre 2009 - 09:58 .