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I mean my cousin Mathias, a merchant in Red cliffe was killed because some young kid became a demon and slaughtered the town.  Poor fellow, sad story he had a wife and 3 kids to feed back in Denerim.  Why was the Chantry asleep on that one, why wasn't that kid controlled properly?

Then there was my Aunt Ramona, fine woman, hard worker she was.  Worked her way up to assistant head housekeeper in the Mage tower.  Killed horribly in that towere incident, some power ful mage or other got loose and killed all sorts of Templars and other mages and all the servants in the tower.  Both mages and Templars assured her it was a safe place to work, what went wrong?

I once courted a pretty young gal from a village called Honneleath.  I heard she got killed by a hoard of darkspawn.  There was rumours that a powerful mage lived there and dabbled in demonology.  Some even say after the mage died there was an actual demon in his basement, just waiting to possess someone, can you believe that!

Myself and some merchant friends were drinking it up one eve and this one guy, Levi Dryden starts telling us this story about his Great granny being a Warden and her and a mage letting loose all sorts of them demons.  Place was haunted for years they say.

I had a real good buddy, Haskel was his name, hard working merchant.  Elf lover some called him cause he actually, can you believe it traded with the dalish at times.  Welll I heard he went to do some trading and some crazed elf witch named Velana or something like that just up and kills him and his friends.

Damndable mages, all of em.  They ought to lock em up tight or kill em all.  I sure wouldn't want one in my village WOULD YOU?

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http://social.biowar...9&poll_id=14398



According to my poll they do. They've been winning by a large margin.

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To Hell with Mathias and to Hell with Haskel! I SPIT ON THEM! I hate stupid dung covered peasants! And I hate mages! The only people I like are the Templars! If we have the chance to overthrow the Chantry but take command of the Templar army, I'm doing that.

"I'm a Templar and I'm awesome because I wear a helmet and have cookies."

With my Templar army - we kill everyone:

Dalish - dead.
Undead - dead.
Ferelden - dead.
Darkspawn - dead.
Orcs - dead.
Humans - dead.
Elves - dead.
Dwarfs - dead.
Qunari - dead.
Dead people - dead.
Dragons - dead.
Undead Mathias - dead.
Grey Wardens - dead.
Templars - dead.
Me - dead.
Everyone - dead.

BTW Beerfish, your skins looks like it's rotting. Are those robes that you are wearing? Ever heard of Dwarfs turning into abominations? Are you one? Nah of course not! Come here Beerfish, we Templars are unarmed and don't know how to fight... he he he he.

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i dont like so much the mage in dragon age they are too much ludic but they have not an accurated background the church the templars and the tower of mages.. And the mages oppressed are not a original idea after all.. They can be improved in powers and also in background i think..



Magic on dragon age for what show work in this way..

Pain dealer

Heal dealer

Some stunning e paralyze power..



Too much semplicistic as a mage.. I think the best bioware game where mages are present and well rappresented was Baldur's gate 2 but after all forgotten realms is not writed by bioware they based in a well done ambientation..



I think mages can be really better with powers and also with background but the problem with bioware right now is they made background decision thinking at the gameplay.. And this is a cancer for a roleplay world because you limit yourself and thing can appear less detailed..

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Considering how the Chantry basically enslaves mages to its system, they don't seem to be asleep at the wheel. Killing D'Sims, nearly killing Aenirin, putting a bounty on Morrigan with no evidence. They sure do like to hunt down people. And I'd love to see mages freed. I'm hoping it's an option for Hawke. :)

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Yep. Templars are evil.

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One hears your sorrow and outrage Beerfish and must pronounce that there is a solution for the plague of the Saarebas infesting your lands, the Qun offers safety and protection to all right thinking peoples.

Why must the unenlightened insist that a dangerous beast be treated like it is a thinking, feeling person I neither know nor do I care, all I know is that we have suffered at the hands of the Saarebas unfettered and know there are only two cures: To grant them mercy or cut their foul tongues from their lying mouths and keep them leashed in kennels to fight abominations like themselves.

Thought for the day: My sword is not strong unless my mind, body and soul are strong in the Qun.

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I almost forgot what we Templars also are going to kill:



Qun - dead.

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LOL, despite all that, i DO like playing as a mage. I have fun doin that.

Mages cant help what they were born with...

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Elton John is dead wrote...

I almost forgot what we Templars also are going to kill:

Qun - dead.


Actually, Genitivi admits it was mages who won the war against the Qunari during the New Exalted Marches. Not sure how long the Andrastian nations would last without them.Image IPB

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Genitivi - dead to stop spreading those lies.

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Ha yes the Qun fears addicts serving the Saarebas, awaken and see the truth of what your chantry and false god have done to you Ejid.

Why are beasts given oppulence and favour when you live hard fetching and carrying for them and yet are still despised by the very creatures you protect. Throw off the chains that bind you, be the heroes you were meant to be and slaughter the beasts cavorting in their luxury, sin and filth.

Then come north to your rightful place in the antaam and you shall have an honoured place in the beresaad and be celebrated as the wisest and strongest of warriors, we will give you purpose, honour and a home to vanquish the doubts and emptiness that beset you.

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Elton John is dead wrote...

Genitivi - dead to stop spreading those lies.


Somehow I like your attitude. I'll be weeping over your death.

Then tears=dead

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Beerfish wrote...

I mean my cousin Mathias, a merchant in Red cliffe was killed because some young kid became a demon and slaughtered the town.  Poor fellow, sad story he had a wife and 3 kids to feed back in Denerim.  Why was the Chantry asleep on that one, why wasn't that kid controlled properly?

Then there was my Aunt Ramona, fine woman, hard worker she was.  Worked her way up to assistant head housekeeper in the Mage tower.  Killed horribly in that towere incident, some power ful mage or other got loose and killed all sorts of Templars and other mages and all the servants in the tower.  Both mages and Templars assured her it was a safe place to work, what went wrong?

I once courted a pretty young gal from a village called Honneleath.  I heard she got killed by a hoard of darkspawn.  There was rumours that a powerful mage lived there and dabbled in demonology.  Some even say after the mage died there was an actual demon in his basement, just waiting to possess someone, can you believe that!

Myself and some merchant friends were drinking it up one eve and this one guy, Levi Dryden starts telling us this story about his Great granny being a Warden and her and a mage letting loose all sorts of them demons.  Place was haunted for years they say.

I had a real good buddy, Haskel was his name, hard working merchant.  Elf lover some called him cause he actually, can you believe it traded with the dalish at times.  Welll I heard he went to do some trading and some crazed elf witch named Velana or something like that just up and kills him and his friends.

Damndable mages, all of em.  They ought to lock em up tight or kill em all.  I sure wouldn't want one in my village WOULD YOU?


I laughed.

As someone who plays only mages I can say this:

As a villager I sure as hell wouldn't want anyone near me that could set the town on fire just by waving their hand. (Fireball, Inferno)

Not to mention someone who could crush me with their thoughts(Crushing Prison), Control my children with their mind  (Horror,Sleep Waking NIghtmare), turn my dear departed mother into a zombie(Animate Dead), make my best friend explode from within (Walking Bomb) or turn the love of my life into stone (Petrify). That's without the threat of them being posessed by a demon and killing the entire town.

If a group of people existed in todays supposedly educated society that had these abilites, those modern mages would be controlled/locked up/persecuted without thought.


There is no question it is 100% reasonable for ordinary folks to want mages locked up or killed.

My mages may resent that, but it is the only reasonable reaction for villagers to have.

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Modifié par Alodar, 03 février 2011 - 03:50 .


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No. I hate being ranged and in the back. I like to be up close and personal, that is heroic for me

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Alodar wrote...
If a group of people existed in todays supposedly educated society that had these abilites, those modern mages would be controlled/locked up/persecuted without thought.

There is no question it is 100% reasonable for ordinary folks to want mages locked up or killed.


Indeed. The reason the "templars are bad" view is so prevalent is because most of us live in cushy western societies where anything that smells like oppression is Very Bad, and the only determining factor in how one should treat mages is how fair that treatment is. Of course, we don't have to live with the idea that Poor Oppressed Joe living next door to us might be secretly controlling our mind to make us like him-- or one day turn into a monster and kill our entire family-- but that doesn't need to stop us from being idealistic in our fantasy worlds, now, does it? Image IPB

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David Gaider wrote...
Indeed. The reason the "templars are bad" view is so prevalent is because most of us live in cushy western societies where anything that smells like oppression is Very Bad, and the only determining factor in how one should treat mages is how fair that treatment is. Of course, we don't have to live with the idea that Poor Oppressed Joe living next door to us might be secretly controlling our mind to make us like him-- or one day turn into a monster and kill our entire family-- but that doesn't need to stop us from being idealistic in our fantasy worlds, now, does it? Image IPB

The italiced part is the best justification I found as to why nations and groups in Thedas without a stablished control of magi (Tevinter, the Dalish) have them -the magi- as rulers.

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Without mages, Ferelden would stand no chance against the Darkspawn.

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David Gaider wrote...

Indeed. The reason the "templars are bad" view is so prevalent is because most of us live in cushy western societies where anything that smells like oppression is Very Bad, and the only determining factor in how one should treat mages is how fair that treatment is. Of course, we don't have to live with the idea that Poor Oppressed Joe living next door to us might be secretly controlling our mind to make us like him-- or one day turn into a monster and kill our entire family-- but that doesn't need to stop us from being idealistic in our fantasy worlds, now, does it? Image IPB


Yeah! We can free the mages. Confirmed! Image IPB

Sorry. ahem Image IPB

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Alodar wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

I mean my cousin Mathias, a merchant in Red cliffe was killed because some young kid became a demon and slaughtered the town.  Poor fellow, sad story he had a wife and 3 kids to feed back in Denerim.  Why was the Chantry asleep on that one, why wasn't that kid controlled properly?

Then there was my Aunt Ramona, fine woman, hard worker she was.  Worked her way up to assistant head housekeeper in the Mage tower.  Killed horribly in that towere incident, some power ful mage or other got loose and killed all sorts of Templars and other mages and all the servants in the tower.  Both mages and Templars assured her it was a safe place to work, what went wrong?

I once courted a pretty young gal from a village called Honneleath.  I heard she got killed by a hoard of darkspawn.  There was rumours that a powerful mage lived there and dabbled in demonology.  Some even say after the mage died there was an actual demon in his basement, just waiting to possess someone, can you believe that!

Myself and some merchant friends were drinking it up one eve and this one guy, Levi Dryden starts telling us this story about his Great granny being a Warden and her and a mage letting loose all sorts of them demons.  Place was haunted for years they say.

I had a real good buddy, Haskel was his name, hard working merchant.  Elf lover some called him cause he actually, can you believe it traded with the dalish at times.  Welll I heard he went to do some trading and some crazed elf witch named Velana or something like that just up and kills him and his friends.

Damndable mages, all of em.  They ought to lock em up tight or kill em all.  I sure wouldn't want one in my village WOULD YOU?


I laughed.

As someone who plays only mages I can say this:

As a villager I sure as hell wouldn't want anyone near me that could set the town on fire just by waving their hand. (Fireball, Inferno) Not to mention someone who could crush me with their thoughts(Crushing Prison), Control my mind (Horror,Sleep Waking NIghtmare), Create walking dead (Animate Dead), make my friends explode from within (Walking Bomb) or turn me into stone (Petrify). That's without the threat of them being posessed by a demon and killing the entire town.

If a group of people existed in todays supposedly educated society that had these abilites, those modern mages would be controlled/locked up/persecuted without thought.


There is no question it is 100% reasonable for ordinary folks to want mages locked up or killed.

My mages may resent that, but it is the only reasonable reaction for villagers to have.

Alodar Image IPB



Actually it is not reasonable from an optimal point of view. That is typical behaviour of "What I don't understand, I fear" along with the typical human attitude of "What I fear, I'll kill so I don't have to fear it any longer" and completely illogical in the larger skeem of things.
Although it is justified by human standards, as such mages would no doubt be subject to human shortcomings too. Power Corrupts after all, at least the weakminded and it is almost certain to say that even (or especially) modern day societies fail at developing a solid character being able to withstand the corruption. It is the rarest exception in fact, and the possibility for such "mages" to consist exclusively out of such characters is hence extremely low, making them walking weapons of mass destruction that would be rightfully feared to the most extents, commence the slaughtering out of fear.

Humanity is such a pain in the ass.

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David Gaider wrote...

Alodar wrote...
If a group of people existed in todays supposedly educated society that had these abilites, those modern mages would be controlled/locked up/persecuted without thought.

There is no question it is 100% reasonable for ordinary folks to want mages locked up or killed.


Indeed. The reason the "templars are bad" view is so prevalent is because most of us live in cushy western societies where anything that smells like oppression is Very Bad, and the only determining factor in how one should treat mages is how fair that treatment is. Of course, we don't have to live with the idea that Poor Oppressed Joe living next door to us might be secretly controlling our mind to make us like him-- or one day turn into a monster and kill our entire family-- but that doesn't need to stop us from being idealistic in our fantasy worlds, now, does it? Image IPB


I basically grew up reading Marvel comics. So if I compare mages to Mutants/Superheroes/villains aka X-men I'd always side with the mutants. Why? They are less boring Image IPB

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David Gaider wrote...

Alodar wrote...
If a group of people existed in todays supposedly educated society that had these abilites, those modern mages would be controlled/locked up/persecuted without thought.

There is no question it is 100% reasonable for ordinary folks to want mages locked up or killed.


Indeed. The reason the "templars are bad" view is so prevalent is because most of us live in cushy western societies where anything that smells like oppression is Very Bad, and the only determining factor in how one should treat mages is how fair that treatment is. Of course, we don't have to live with the idea that Poor Oppressed Joe living next door to us might be secretly controlling our mind to make us like him-- or one day turn into a monster and kill our entire family-- but that doesn't need to stop us from being idealistic in our fantasy worlds, now, does it? Image IPB


controlling our minds, maybe not. but killing our entire family? totally a legitimate concern sometimes Image IPB which is unfortunate.

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Bad King wrote...

Without mages, Ferelden would stand no chance against the Darkspawn.



If you believe the Chantry, and be sure the common folk do, without mages there would be no Darkspawn.



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Bad King wrote...

Without mages, Ferelden would stand no chance against the Darkspawn.


How's that?  You could conceivably kill Wynne, not have Morrigan at the final battle, not be a mage yourself, side with the Templars... and still defeat the Blight.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Without mages, Ferelden would stand no chance against the Darkspawn.


How's that?  You could conceivably kill Wynne, not have Morrigan at the final battle not be a mage, side with the Templars... and still defeat the Blight.


Cuz u r teh pwnzor.