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[MandaloreCayn]

 Well I recently installed the game on Windows 7 and my 2 handed weapons dont show up I can equip them they do damage and such but I cant see them it shows the person doing the pose for holding it but nothing else what is wrong?

Modifié par MandaloreCayn, 03 février 2011 - 09:42 .

[MandaloreCayn]

Can noone help?

[MandaloreCayn]

Can somebody please frickin answer this question its pissing me off.... Someone else had the same problem and you didnt answer him....I even talked to an EA online agent and the steps they gave me didnt help

[MandaloreCayn]

And for the record its not a hardware issue I have beyond the recommended hardware for this game all of my drivers are updated and stuff its an issue withing the game itself

[ShinsFortress]

".. and stuff .." is not very technical.  You could supply more information to allow others to, maybe, help you better.  As it happens, I guess that it probably is a graphics hardware/driver issue rather than only the game itself.

There are FAQs in these forums that give reasonable guidance on what sort of information to provide.  In this case, at the very least it would be good to say exactly what OS, CPU, graphics-card (and driver version) you are using.  If nothing else, diagnostics 101 would tell you that if someone else with the same card & driver does not have the same problem then the issue is somewhere else in your installation.

Modifié par ShinsFortress, 06 février 2011 - 11:42 .

[MandaloreCayn]

Well the EA Tech Support told me to update my drivers and have Wait for Vert Sync to be off and Ive done both of those things and also Ive checked the FAQs not one of them even mentions my problem.. I run Windows 7 64 Bit Edition and have a ATI Radeon 4200 HD and a Quad-Core Processor..

[ShinsFortress]

Maybe someone with a 64-bit OS can help better. I still run Vista Ultimate 32-bit because I find it keeps most of my old games working fine, which a 64-bit install didn't.

However, looking at what info you have given us, I'd say your problem is the graphics card implementation. An HD 4200 is a pretty low end card. 'value' maybe, but not powerful enough for most current games. Also, it's commonly in the ATI "Mobility" arrangement, which tends to be in laptops and thus even less likely to successfully drive a pretty graphics game.

Modifié par ShinsFortress, 06 février 2011 - 06:13 .

[MandaloreCayn]

Their recommended video software on the box is a Radeon 3850 and it runs Oblivion smoothly

[Angband21]

ShinsFortress wrote...

Maybe someone with a 64-bit OS can help better. I still run Vista Ultimate 32-bit because I find it keeps most of my old games working fine, which a 64-bit install didn't.

However, looking at what info you have given us, I'd say your problem is the graphics card implementation. An HD 4200 is a pretty low end card. 'value' maybe, but not powerful enough for most current games. Also, it's commonly in the ATI "Mobility" arrangement, which tends to be in laptops and thus even less likely to successfully drive a pretty graphics game.

The HD4300  that I run seems to do fine. Not sure of the drop off from 4300 to 4200.

WIth my graphics card, I run DA at the following settings without any graphic glitches:

Resolution: 1024X768 on a 19" CRT monitor
Graphics Detail: High
AA: 4X
Texture Detail: High
Full Screen
Vertical Sync: Checked
Frame Buffer: Checked

[Gorath Alpha]

MandaloreCayn wrote...

 Well I recently installed the game on Windows 7 and my 2 handed weapons dont show up I can equip them they do damage and such but I cant see them it shows the person doing the pose for holding it but nothing else what is wrong?

An actual video card, the discrete separate circuit board kind that plugs into an add-on slot is a definite requirement.

Very basic discussion* of video cards, video chips, PhysX, and even of laptops' limits: 

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/519461

Once the actual graphics device is installed, if it can be (laptops are mere disposable devices, incapable of proper upgrade progress), then a proper graphics driver is required. 

Windows XP Minimum Specifications
OS: Windows XP with SP3
CPU: Intel Core 2 Single (or equivalent) running at 1.6Ghz or greater
AMD 64 (or equivalent) running at 2.0Ghz or greater
RAM: 1 GB or more
DVD ROM (Physical copy)
20 GB HD space
Video: ATI Radeon X850 256MB or greater (this is clearly wrong)
NVIDIA GeForce "6600 GT" 128MB or greater (and this one is more wrong)

(Note: IMO, the practical choices for the two video cards above should be the Radeon X800 Pro, and the Geforce 6800 GS, at least, for small textures - it will take a Radeon X1650 XT (or X1800 GTO, same thing, almost) for medium or better textures)

PC Hardware* Basics for Gaming (and inventory of Components):

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/509580

P. S.  Angband, when it's an onboard Chipset video chip, it's pretty darned weak, and definitely many MILES in performance terms below what is required, probably on the order of HALF of the rather small performance offered by the discrete Radeon HD 4350. 

The HD 4200 architecture started life as the HD 3100 / HD 3200 pair of Chipset chips, which in their own turn were based on the Mobile version of the Radeon HD 2400.  The HD 4200 has been upgraded to match the features and functions offered by the HD 3n00 discrete card generation, but isn't a direct descendent of any HD 3n00 anything, (I've had to edit that sentence, where HD 4000 vs. HD 3000 feature sets were mixed for the past 30 minutes or so).

It's still closer to what the HD 2400 used to be: 

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 février 2011 - 09:52 .

[Angband21]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

MandaloreCayn wrote...

 Well I recently installed the game on Windows 7 and my 2 handed weapons dont show up I can equip them they do damage and such but I cant see them it shows the person doing the pose for holding it but nothing else what is wrong?

An actual video card, the discrete separate circuit board kind that plugs into an add-on slot is a definite requirement.

Very basic discussion* of video cards, video chips, PhysX, and even of laptops' limits: 

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/519461

Once the actual graphics device is installed, if it can be (laptops are mere disposable devices, incapable of proper upgrade progress), then a proper graphics driver is required. 

Windows XP Minimum Specifications
OS: Windows XP with SP3
CPU: Intel Core 2 Single (or equivalent) running at 1.6Ghz or greater
AMD 64 (or equivalent) running at 2.0Ghz or greater
RAM: 1 GB or more
DVD ROM (Physical copy)
20 GB HD space
Video: ATI Radeon X850 256MB or greater (this is clearly wrong)
NVIDIA GeForce "6600 GT" 128MB or greater (and this one is more wrong)

(Note: IMO, the practical choices for the two video cards above should be the Radeon X800 Pro, and the Geforce 6800 GS, at least, for small textures - it will take a Radeon X1650 XT (or X1800 GTO, same thing, almost) for medium or better textures)

PC Hardware* Basics for Gaming (and inventory of Components):

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/509580

P. S.  Angband, when it's an onboard Chipset video chip, it's pretty darned weak, and definitely many MILES in performance terms below what is required, probably on the order of HALF of the rather small performance offered by the discrete Radeon HD 4350. 

The HD 4200 architecture started life as the HD 3100 / HD 3200 pair of Chipset chips, which in their own turn were based on the Mobile version of the Radeon HD 2400.  The HD 4200 has been upgraded to match the features and functions offered by the HD 3n00 discrete card generation, but isn't a direct descendent of any HD 3n00 anything, (I've had to edit that sentence, where HD 4000 vs. HD 3000 feature sets were mixed for the past 30 minutes or so).

It's still closer to what the HD 2400 used to be: 

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

Ah, I was thinking that he had a discrete 4200. That is a quite a step down from even what I am using.I would consider what I am using the bare minimum, although I have had no real problems. I can even overclock the card, just not the memory clock and get good performance out of it. If I overclock the memory, I get the famous "CTD from clicking the Character Record menu."

I'm not worried about upgrading graphics, since the 19" CRT should be replaced at the same time. No matter the graphic card, you have to have something that will display the improvement, and this old monitor is showing its age. I have about 4 horizontal white lines at the top of the screen. Something tells me that its a sign of old age and that soon I'll be replace the monitor. IS there a flat screen with a top wide enough for a cat to sleep on? :innocent:

[Gorath Alpha]

The cats WANT to walk across the tops of LCD panels, but given their usual manner of launching themselves to the next-higher something in their efforts to gat as high as possible, they knock mine down fairly often.  I miss the shelf space from a large CRT, which I would get an accessory piece to have a level surface with, where I could stick my regular, non- computing, glasses, or a checkbook, whatever.  Of course those often ended up atop the keyboard tray when a cat didn't feel like sharing the shelf with my stuff . .

Compared to where onboard video started out, some dozen or so years ago, the HD4200 was night and day, and can in fact run a good selection of either old games, or low-requirements games (such as MMOs, and other co-op, or multi-play software). 

[MandaloreCayn]

I appreciate the Aid but I just installed an Overclocked Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT and updated the drivers and yet I still get the same problem so like I said I know its not hardware otherwise I would have figured it out after all I am A+Certified

[Angband21]

MandaloreCayn wrote...

I appreciate the Aid but I just installed an Overclocked Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT and updated the drivers and yet I still get the same problem so like I said I know its not hardware otherwise I would have figured it out after all I am A+Certified

When do the weapons disappear? In combat, or are they missing in non-combat as well?

[Gorath Alpha]

An 8600 is pretty "old" by now, and all of the 8n00s other than the late- released 8800s had the firmware defects, so let's hope it was marked down a great deal first.

This sounds like a case for a reinstall of everything, with a Cleanup run, first, to remove all traces of existing drivers, and care taken to avoid nVIDIA's graphics drivers newer than 2009 or so. The recent drivers are mostly just for the GTX200s and newer, model Geforces.

The only edit here just now was to emphasize the fact that I concentrated on software in this response, not on hardware, so I've added the bold-facing text-character formattng above. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 07 février 2011 - 04:13 .

[MandaloreCayn]

Angband21 the disappear in non-combat

[MandaloreCayn]

And Gorath if it was a hardware issue it would be the whole game messing up not just the 2handed weapons..

[metatheurgist]

Mods? Steam? Try repairing the install.

[RaenImrahl]

MandaloreCayn wrote...

And Gorath if it was a hardware issue it would be the whole game messing up not just the 2handed weapons..

I'll bet my next paycheck you have some thrid-party mods installed, right?

[MandaloreCayn]

Ok I disabled the 3rd party mods I had and started a new game and the problem still exists and Im used the DVD Version of it btw

[RaenImrahl]

MandaloreCayn wrote...

Ok I disabled the 3rd party mods I had and started a new game and the problem still exists and Im used the DVD Version of it btw

Some mods may have changed files in the actual program directory.  The only way to be certain is to do a complete uninstall/reinstall of the game.

[MandaloreCayn]

Ill try that and let you know if the problem occurs or not

[MandaloreCayn]

Problem solved I reinstalled it and updated my direct X and made sure my drivers were up to date and the "old" 8600 is working like new