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[TJPags]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

Like nearly every single other person said there can be good blood mages but there is still more danger in blood magic then there is good, what happened with the mage circle was messed up and can easily happen.

I think it'd be logical that some of the Dalish elfs who know magic do blood magic cause the templars can't get them and stuff and they are fine using blood magic.

Was that the result of blood magic, or the result of summoning and trafficing with demons?  I didn't see any use of blood magic there . . . .

[Cazlee]

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.

Modifié par Cazlee, 06 février 2011 - 01:28 .

[NKKKK]

Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.

Do you have any proof about the God Baby ritual?

[TJPags]

Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.

Is a blood transfusion inherently evil?  What about a kidney donation?  Both do exactly what you described as inherently evil about blood magic.

I stand by the proposition that a mage who uses his/her own blood, or that of a willing participant - as an example, Isolde volunteers to be the "victim" to power the spell to save Connor - is doing nothing wrong.

As for mind control, I contine to assert we have yet to see it, and as such, it may be nothing more than superstition, or Chantry propoganda.

[AlexXIV]

NKKKK wrote...

Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.

Do you have any proof about the God Baby ritual?

Ugh, the Warden and Morrigan had sex just the night before the battle so there wasn't much of a baby,. and if they don't have sex there will be no baby at all. What's the point, it is still a life created.

Isolde would have willingly died for her son. What's bad about that now? That you could travel for two weeks to get the mages help and were lucky enough that the abomination remained inactive? What would have happend if you returned from the Circle of Mages and the whole village was slain? Would the bloodmagic ritual still have been worse than that?

Modifié par AlexXIV, 06 février 2011 - 03:03 .

[Falls Edge]

I think the implication that it had a soul at all is the genuine problem.

[Eveangaline]

Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.

To be fair, I always assumed the Morrigans baby thing worked because a fetus that young didn't have a soul yet. So saying 'you killed the babys soul' doesn't make much sense, it's hardly been proven that the soul comes that early in the DA universe.

And blood magic is more powerful the more blood and energy you use, which is why so many use multiple people or entire lives for their power, but if someone were to use only themselves, how is their blood magic evil?

[themageguy]

may be a silly question but the elven mage in the dragon age legends trailer did she use blood magic on that abomination? I thought it could be walking bomb....but her eyes wept blood.

And if it was, makes me wonder why such magic would be allowed in the presence of a templar?

[Insomniak]

Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life.

Err... not necessarily. Blood magic's "source of power" come from, well, blood, which can be manipulated in various manners. Even the Chantry uses blood magic to track down runaway mages (filactory). That isn't any more harmful than going to the doctor's office for a drug test. Sacrifice is not required to use it, albeit it's the easy way.

As for the God Baby, well - it could be argued that the child didn't even have a soul (to be destroyed) at it conception (don't want to start a debate over semantics though). And the ritual not only created life, but also saved the life of the warden. Don't know about you, but I think that's not exactly "evil."

Modifié par javajedi217, 06 février 2011 - 04:44 .

[Eclipse_9990]

Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.

Lol killed the babies soul? Dude the warden JUST had sex with Morrigan, at that point the "baby" is just a sperm. 
Its like calling someone a mass murderer because they masturbate. Ridiculous. 

Blood Magic in itself is not evil. You can use your own blood and other peoples blood without killing them. Just because it uses life force doesnt make it an evil option. Sure it might hurt to use, but if your using it on yourself it doesnt matter. Oh and as for using other peoples blood, there are people who gladly offer some of their blood to use for spells their called bleeders. Stop thinking in such black and white terms. 

[Riona45]

Eveangaline wrote...
To be fair, I always assumed the Morrigans baby thing worked because a fetus that young didn't have a soul yet. So saying 'you killed the babys soul' doesn't make much sense, it's hardly been proven that the soul comes that early in the DA universe.

Morrigan's child probably wasn't even a fetus by the time the archdemon was killed--it was likely still a zygote.  And yeah, we don't know if zygotes in the DA universe have souls or if they get them later.

Modifié par Riona45, 06 février 2011 - 04:59 .

[Riona45]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Lol killed the babies soul? Dude the warden JUST had sex with Morrigan, at that point the "baby" is just a sperm. 

Just for future reference, you need both an egg cell and a sperm cell to reproduce.

Modifié par Riona45, 06 février 2011 - 05:01 .

[Eclipse_9990]

Riona45 wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Lol killed the babies soul? Dude the warden JUST had sex with Morrigan, at that point the "baby" is just a sperm. 

Just for future reference, you need both an egg cell and a sperm cell to reproduce.

Yes I know. I'm familiar with the reproductive process. I'm just making a point. 

[Face of Evil]

Ah yes, the "boy scout blood mage" argument — that one good blood mage who only uses their own life force to power their magic — or that of willing participants — proves that blood magic is not evil.

The issue isn't that blood magic is inherently evil. It's not the Dark Side of the Force, which exerts a corrupting influence over the user. But one cannot deny its incredible power, or the fact that blood magic is inherently harmful.

"But isn't all magic dangerous?" Sure, very much so. But regular magic has limitations. No matter how powerful the mage, he is limited by the use of mana: there are only so many spells that he can cast before he is rendered powerless. The mage can supplement his power with the use of lyrium, but he can only carry so many lyrium potions and there are inherent risks with lyrium over-use.

Blood mages also have limitations, but they are fewer, as blood carries inherently more power than lyrium. A blood mage can work spells and rituals that are beyond the power of even a group of mages. Add to this the abilities that can be worked only through blood magic, like mind control.; an enemy killed by Blood Wound is no more dead than one killed by a fireball or arrows, but these abilities are nonetheless incredibly powerful.

Now to the second point, that blood magic is inherently harmful. I don't anyone can deny this: even the most basic use of blood magic expends hit points.

"But why does it matter that blood magic is harmful if the maleficar was only hurting himself?" Certainly, a blood mage can only use his own life force or that of willing participants to fuel his magic. But why would he, when the most basic use of blood magic results in self-injury and it is so incredibly EASY to take the energy you need from others? And that's how most maleficars use their talents: by ripping the life energy they need out of others.

It's not that blood magic must be used for evil, but that it lends itself to evil purposes. One good-natured maleficar does not erase the horrific atrocities that have been committed with blood magic or wash away all the future abuses that will come as a result of its use.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 06 février 2011 - 05:50 .

[Cazlee]

TJPags wrote...

Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.

Is a blood transfusion inherently evil?  What about a kidney donation?  Both do exactly what you described as inherently evil about blood magic.

I disagree.

1. A good doctor/nurse will perform these procedures only after they ensure the risk to the donor is non-existant or minimal. The safety and well-being of the donor is important. Not so with blood magic. However, the blood mages we have encountered are always be able to justify wounding others and taking a lives.

2. The surgical procedures are only done with the donor's consent. Blood magic's "donors" are often unwilling or slaves.

3. Most importantly, organ/blood donation is done to save lives. Replacing bad/missing blood/organs is the only way we know of to "heal" people. Mages have many options to heal. Blood magic is actually a "selfish" magic because the caster can only heal himself, not others with it.

I stand by the proposition that a mage who uses his/her own blood, or that of a willing participant - as an example, Isolde volunteers to be the "victim" to power the spell to save Connor - is doing nothing wrong.

This is why the warden is the worst example to justify using blood magic... after combat  his party's health resets to 100%. With other mages, injuries are permanent, and no mage will be able to use his own blood forever.
The ritual itself does nothing to "save" Connor, not in the literal way that a heal spell can "save" an ally. It just allows access to kill a demon.

As for mind control, I contine to assert we have yet to see it, and as such, it may be nothing more than superstition, or Chantry propoganda.

Perhaps. That would be much too powerful and cause too much chaos if true.

[Cazlee]

Riona45 wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...
To be fair, I always assumed the Morrigans baby thing worked because a fetus that young didn't have a soul yet. So saying 'you killed the babys soul' doesn't make much sense, it's hardly been proven that the soul comes that early in the DA universe.

Morrigan's child probably wasn't even a fetus by the time the archdemon was killed--it was likely still a zygote.  And yeah, we don't know if zygotes in the DA universe have souls or if they get them later.

It's too young to have a soul, yet it is perfectly believable that by day 2 it contains the soul of the archdemon. I guess we are supposed to assume that it's a sort of empty shell. But who knows. In the end, all we know is the baby's soul was replaced somehow.

[Cazlee]

Face of Evil wrote...

Ah yes, the "boy scout blood mage" argument — that one good blood mage who only uses their own life force to power their magic — or that of willing participants — proves that blood magic is not evil.

The issue isn't that blood magic is inherently evil. It's not the Dark Side of the Force, which exerts a corrupting influence over the user. But one cannot deny its incredible power, or the fact that blood magic is inherently harmful.

"But isn't all magic dangerous?" Sure, very much so. But regular magic has limitations. No matter how powerful the mage, he is limited by the use of mana: there are only so many spells that he can cast before he is rendered powerless. The mage can supplement his power with the use of lyrium, but he can only carry so many lyrium potions and there are inherent risks with lyrium over-use.

Blood mages also have limitations, but they are fewer, as blood carries inherently more power than lyrium. A blood mage can work spells and rituals that are beyond the power of even a group of mages. Add to this the abilities that can be worked only through blood magic, like mind control.; an enemy killed by Blood Wound is no more dead than one killed by a fireball or arrows, but these abilities are nonetheless incredibly powerful.

Now to the second point, that blood magic is inherently harmful. I don't anyone can deny this: even the most basic use of blood magic expends hit points.

"But why does it matter that blood magic is harmful if the maleficar was only hurting himself?" Certainly, a blood mage can only use his own life force or that of willing participants to fuel his magic. But why would he, when the most basic use of blood magic results in self-injury and it is so incredibly EASY to take the energy you need from others? And that's how most maleficars use their talents: by ripping the life energy they need out of others.

It's not that blood magic must be used for evil, but that it lends itself to evil purposes. One good-natured maleficar does not erase the horrific atrocities that have been committed with blood magic or wash away all the future abuses that will come as a result of its use.

I agree. Much better than I could have expressed it.

[TJPags]

[quote]Cazlee wrote...

[quote]TJPags wrote...

[quote]Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.[/quote]

Is a blood transfusion inherently evil?  What about a kidney donation?  Both do exactly what you described as inherently evil about blood magic.[/quote]
I disagree.

1. A good doctor/nurse will perform these procedures only after they ensure the risk to the donor is non-existant or minimal. The safety and well-being of the donor is important. Not so with blood magic. However, the blood mages we have encountered are always be able to justify wounding others and taking a lives.

2. The surgical procedures are only done with the donor's consent. Blood magic's "donors" are often unwilling or slaves.

3. Most importantly, organ/blood donation is done to save lives. Replacing bad/missing blood/organs is the only way we know of to "heal" people. Mages have many options to heal. Blood magic is actually a "selfish" magic because the caster can only heal himself, not others with it. [/quote]

1.  And a sensible blood mage will not drain his source of power completely, leaving himself helpless tomorrow.  And a minimal risk is still a risk.  A kidney donor who gets into an accident the following week, injuring his remaining kidney, is in a very bad way.  There's a reason we have two of certain organs.

2.  I've pointed out that Isolde was a willing donor.  Do you no longer have an objection?

3.  The use of blood magic in battle will also save lives, the lives of those on the side of the blood mage.  So if 5 non-combatants offer to be donors, lives are being saved by those more powerful spells, and longer lasting spell power.

[quote]Cazlee wrote...

[quote]
I stand by the proposition that a mage who uses his/her own blood, or that of a willing participant - as an example, Isolde volunteers to be the "victim" to power the spell to save Connor - is doing nothing wrong.[/quote]
This is why the warden is the worst example to justify using blood magic... after combat  his party's health resets to 100%. With other mages, injuries are permanent, and no mage will be able to use his own blood forever.
The ritual itself does nothing to "save" Connor, not in the literal way that a heal spell can "save" an ally. It just allows access to kill a demon. [/quote][/quote]

The ritual is the only way - short of getting the mages from the mage tower - to get into the Fade and sever Connor's connection with the demon, which saves not only Connor, but the entire village.  No, the ritual itself doesn't cure him, but it allows the cure to happn..  But then, heart transplant surgery itself doesn't cure anyone - the new heart does.  The surgery just allows the new heart to do that.

[quote]Cazlee wrote...
[quote]
As for mind control, I contine to assert we have yet to see it, and as such, it may be nothing more than superstition, or Chantry propoganda.[/quote]
Perhaps. That would be much too powerful and cause too much chaos if true.

[/quote][/quote]

You're probably right.  But I have a problem with the fact that it's never seen, and yet it is one of the two most often voiced arguments against blood magic.  It's supposed to be a major reason why it's bad.  But it's not actually ever seen.

[TJPags]

Face of Evil wrote...

Ah yes, the "boy scout blood mage" argument — that one good blood mage who only uses their own life force to power their magic — or that of willing participants — proves that blood magic is not evil.

The issue isn't that blood magic is inherently evil. It's not the Dark Side of the Force, which exerts a corrupting influence over the user. But one cannot deny its incredible power, or the fact that blood magic is inherently harmful.

"But isn't all magic dangerous?" Sure, very much so. But regular magic has limitations. No matter how powerful the mage, he is limited by the use of mana: there are only so many spells that he can cast before he is rendered powerless. The mage can supplement his power with the use of lyrium, but he can only carry so many lyrium potions and there are inherent risks with lyrium over-use.

Blood mages also have limitations, but they are fewer, as blood carries inherently more power than lyrium. A blood mage can work spells and rituals that are beyond the power of even a group of mages. Add to this the abilities that can be worked only through blood magic, like mind control.; an enemy killed by Blood Wound is no more dead than one killed by a fireball or arrows, but these abilities are nonetheless incredibly powerful.

Now to the second point, that blood magic is inherently harmful. I don't anyone can deny this: even the most basic use of blood magic expends hit points.

"But why does it matter that blood magic is harmful if the maleficar was only hurting himself?" Certainly, a blood mage can only use his own life force or that of willing participants to fuel his magic. But why would he, when the most basic use of blood magic results in self-injury and it is so incredibly EASY to take the energy you need from others? And that's how most maleficars use their talents: by ripping the life energy they need out of others.

It's not that blood magic must be used for evil, but that it lends itself to evil purposes. One good-natured maleficar does not erase the horrific atrocities that have been committed with blood magic or wash away all the future abuses that will come as a result of its use.

You acknowledged the only point I personally want to make in that second sentence.  Blood magic is not inherently evil.  It can certainly be used for evil purposes, and likely is most attractive to those who wish to do so.  But it's not, in and of itself, evil.
 
I wonder - and this is not directed at anyone in particular - how many people who feel mages as a whole are treated unfairly also feel that blood magic is evil.  I haven't gone into the mage freedom thread for a while, and it's grown way too large to read through, but it does seem like the majority of people feel mages shouldn't be locked in the tower.  It also seems like a majority of people think blood magic is evil.

I wonder if this isn't a contradiction . . .

[Eclipse_9990]

Cazlee wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Cazlee wrote...

Using blood magic is inherently evil because the source of its power comes from harming or sacrificing people for their blood and life. I think there are only two examples of blood mages harming themselves instead of others in DAO. The warden is a unique case for obvious reasons, and Jowan acted out of desperation. Everything, else under normal circumstances, required human sacrifices, such as Isolde, Morrigan's baby (yup you killed the baby's soul), the elf slaves, wardens in WK, Golem slaves (this was a dwarf version of blood magic) etc.

Blood magic can be used to control minds, which is exceptionally dangerous. Ironically, using blood magic also makes the user susceptible to demon possession...

"Good" people can use blood magic, but blood magic in itself is still evil.

Is a blood transfusion inherently evil?  What about a kidney donation?  Both do exactly what you described as inherently evil about blood magic.

I disagree.

1. A good doctor/nurse will perform these procedures only after they ensure the risk to the donor is non-existant or minimal. The safety and well-being of the donor is important. Not so with blood magic. However, the blood mages we have encountered are always be able to justify wounding others and taking a lives.

2. The surgical procedures are only done with the donor's consent. Blood magic's "donors" are often unwilling or slaves.

3. Most importantly, organ/blood donation is done to save lives. Replacing bad/missing blood/organs is the only way we know of to "heal" people. Mages have many options to heal. Blood magic is actually a "selfish" magic because the caster can only heal himself, not others with it.

I stand by the proposition that a mage who uses his/her own blood, or that of a willing participant - as an example, Isolde volunteers to be the "victim" to power the spell to save Connor - is doing nothing wrong.

Bold 2: This is why the warden is the worst example to justify using blood magic... after combat  his party's health resets to 100%. With other mages, injuries are permanent, and no mage will be able to use his own blood forever.
The ritual itself does nothing to "save" Connor, not in the literal way that a heal spell can "save" an ally. It just allows access to kill a demon.

As for mind control, I contine to assert we have yet to see it, and as such, it may be nothing more than superstition, or Chantry propoganda.

Perhaps. That would be much too powerful and cause too much chaos if true.

1. Blood Mages usually use there own blood for the spells. The exceptions being Tevinters using slaves because they don't view slaves as people. But thats more of a cultural influence than blood magic. As for jowan using isold she gave her concent and the reason why it killed her was because it was an extremely powerful spell, I mean doing it without blood magic consists a ass load of lyrium, and a small crowed of mages. Hell this actually shows how much more efficiant blood magic is. 

2. Not necessarily true as I mentioned before some people can donate their blood to blood mages without killing themselves their called bleeders. 

3. Blood magic has a lot of abilities, it can "heal the sick", "restore failing crops", and "protect the innocent". Even if a blood mage uses someone else's or their own blood you do know they can use healing spells after, right? 

Bold 2:
As I said all mages can heal people so your point doesnt make any sense. Also "The ritual does nothing to save connor" really? REALLY? You can't be serious. The ritual allows you to go in the fade and deal with the demon without hurting the kid in anyway. How does that not save him? I suppose killing the boy would be a better option than using blood magic to you? Unbelievable...

[Juggernaught203]

Face of Evil wrote...

It's not that blood magic must be used for evil, but that it lends itself to evil purposes. One good-natured maleficar does not erase the horrific atrocities that have been committed with blood magic or wash away all the future abuses that will come as a result of its use.

Swords are generally used for killing other people as well. Nothing inherently good has ever came out of crafting weapons either. It can, however, be used for "good" or "evil". With "good" I mean the act of defending and with "evil" I mean the act of purposely inflicting damage on a personm animal or perhaps property.

For every individual who raised a sword to defend his family, there are probably a dozen men who raised one to maim and kill. I do not think that ordinary, physical weaponry or "normal" offensive magic is much better in regard to Blood Magic, seeing as how all of these lend themselves for "evil purposes" as well.
I mean, if wars were not waged, nobody would feel the need to arms themselves out of a sense of security.

All of it is used for one purpose, regardless of the motivation behind it: violence and bloodshed.
I do not see a huge difference between, say, waging a war, and using Blood Magic.
It's all about how you cover it up, with what reason you are doing it, etc.
It's the same act, so therefore I would say that it is a tool, a grey area, but the reason for using it is, overall, very different.

A nice quote from Homer: "the blade itself incites to deeds of violence".

It's up to the individual to use it in a certain way which we can label as "morality". I don't think that the taking of a life by means of a sword in order to "defend" that which he believes is "right" and "good" is any different to the use of Blood Magic by one who seeks to do the same.

With power, comes, after all, responsibility. If a person cannot handle it, he or she obviously is unfit to wield it.
And, indeed, many can't seem to control the power that comes with Blood Magic.

I'm not disputing what you said, rather that I don't think it's very different from "regular" means to maim, kill, burn, slaughter,  rape, pillage and destroy each other. Which can be used for "good" or "evil".

Modifié par Juggernaught203, 06 février 2011 - 06:32 .

[Riona45]

Cazlee wrote...

I guess we are supposed to assume that it's a sort of empty shell. 

If you think a zygote is by definition an "empty shell", that's kinda your problem.  No one ever said that, because it's false.

Modifié par Riona45, 06 février 2011 - 06:28 .

[Nashiktal]

Where does blood magic originate from anyways? In game the only hints I got was that it comes from demons.

[Cazlee]

Uh, an empty shell to hold the soul of the archdemon? Or what analogy would you use to describe the fusion?

[Riona45]

Face of Evil wrote...
"But why does it matter that blood magic is harmful if the maleficar was only hurting himself?" Certainly, a blood mage can only use his own life force or that of willing participants to fuel his magic. But why would he, when the most basic use of blood magic results in self-injury and it is so incredibly EASY to take the energy you need from others? And that's how most maleficars use their talents: by ripping the life energy they need out of others.

I take it you don't think Merrill is going to be like that at all.  Your banner suggests that you think she is awesome.