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[phantomdragoness]

I think Jack is very pretty, even with the tattoos and the shaved head. Although her personality is something to get used to, she does become "friendlier" the more you talk to her. She's a tough girl, and she had to be in order to survive the world she was brought up in. I don't think she'll ever want to have a "girl's night out," at least in the regular sense; maybe her form of bonding is vandalizing a moon or two, and destroying a few things?

[adriano_c]

Ericzio wrote...

Jacks eyes are very beautiful, but without the makeup, she would look like a dude.

These aren't the facial features of a man. You must be thinking of the in-game Miranda.

[SpiderFan1217]

Her lips make her too femine (Eye speled tate rong.) to be a dude. Even without makeup she's hot.

[Badpie]

That's a beautiful screenie of her Adriano.



Yeah Jack is amazingly gorgeous to me.

[Errationatus]

Jack was (I like to believe) designed to do one important thing in ME2 - separate the shallow ars3h0les from those who tend to put more thinking into their gaming experience.

For example - Miranda serves one real purpose:  to distract you from seeing that Jack is by far the more complex and attractive character - for those who look past jugs and booty, and shallow "Oh, my da-da didn't luv me, and gosh it was so hard being perfect and rich, pity me!"

Tali is there to indulge your sweet tooth, yum-yum, how-sweet-and-cute, yum-yum.

Jack is there to kick you in the sack and make you see that real women are more than titters, ****** and tattoos - they can be mean, they swear, and they never, never, ever think the sun shines out your sad hind-end, even after they stick a boot up it to find out.

Those who don't like Jack?  That's cool.  You've got your milk and cookies to tide you over, and by all means, indulge in your empty calories.

Those of us who do?  We'll be over having us a full-course dinner - with a classy desert, and good scotch.

Modifié par JakeMacDon, 06 février 2011 - 07:02 .

[Manic Sheep]

Ahhgh Why is it you can’t discus Jack without people dissing Miranda? I happen to like both characters. Allot people seem to be too distracted by being outraged at Miranda’s body and sexuality to notice anything else about her.

[PseudoEthnic]

JakeMacDon wrote...

Jack was (I like to believe) designed to do one important thing in ME2 - separate the shallow ars3h0les from those who tend to put more thinking into their gaming experience.

LMAO!

That is honestly pathetic. You know what? I have to say that it is really cute that you think Jack's sole purpose is to seperate the men from the boys. However, the facts say different. Her past may be a nice point of interest, but it doesn't seperate the fact that she is an young anti-social punk. I don't know what part of you thinks that when a rational thinking person sees a scarred, tattooed, shaved-headed, badly dressed criminal, they should consider dating them. Personally, I don't go for those types of women, and a bunch of other people don't either. But hey! That's why BioWare made multiple love interests: To appeal to different types of people.

For the record: Before you attack me, please note that I like Jack a lot. She has a great face, and is a stong and willing human being. She's just not the type of person I would have a romantic relationship with.

[Errationatus]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

LMAO!

I'm glad you laughed.  You were supposed to laugh.  That's why I wrote it.  Then you had to go and prove my point with this:

That is honestly pathetic. You know what? I have to say that it is really cute that you think Jack's sole purpose is to seperate the men from the boys. However, the facts say different. Her past may be a nice point of interest, but it doesn't seperate the fact that she is an young anti-social punk. I don't know what part of you thinks that when a rational thinking person sees a scarred, tattooed, shaved-headed, badly dressed criminal, they should consider dating them.

If I may suggest, you really need to read what's said a smidge more carefully.  Beforehand.

Personally, I don't go for those types of women, and a bunch of other people don't either. But hey! That's why BioWare made multiple love interests: To appeal to different types of people.

Personally, I base my attraction to the opposite sex on what they are, rather than what they look like.  One of the benefits of maturity, and being a rational thinking person. Taking all that stuff you think so negative and actually thinking "Hmmm...  this person may actually be - *gasp* interesting! Thank Bog I was never sucked into that stupidity of basing my reactions to people based soley on their appearances!"

But hey!  To each their own.  That's why evolution created natural selection.  See above.

For the record: Before you attack me, please note that I like Jack a lot. She has a great face, and is a stong and willing human being. She's just not the type of person I would have a romantic relationship with.

You don't want a strong-minded or attractive partner?  That's certainly your choice, nor would I deny you that right.

"Attack you"?  Why would I do that?  It's not as if I'd call what you said above say, something as immaturely crass as "honestly pathetic", or anything like that.  

Naw.

Not my style.

[Collider]

It will be a glorious day on BSN when people stop assuming things about each other for what they do in a video game.

Modifié par Collider, 06 février 2011 - 09:10 .

[PseudoEthnic]

JakeMacDon wrote...

Personally, I base my attraction to the opposite sex on what they are, rather than what they look like.  One of the benefits of maturity, and being a rational thinking person. Taking all that stuff you think so negative and actually thinking "Hmmm...  this person may actually be - *gasp* interesting! Thank Bog I was never sucked into that stupidity of basing my reactions to people based soley on their appearances!"

But hey!  To each their own.  That's why evolution created natural selection.  See above.

I base my attraction to the opposite sex on what they AND what they look like. What's wrong with having both? Their personality may mean more in a long-term relationship, but in order to start one, you're going to need both personality and looks. That's reality.

For the record: Before you attack me, please note that I like Jack a lot. She has a great face, and is a stong and willing human being. She's just not the type of person I would have a romantic relationship with.

You don't want a strong-minded or attractive partner?  That's certainly your choice, nor would I deny you that right.

[My Shepard] is dating a stong-minded and attractive partner. In fact, ALL of the love interests are strong-minded and attractive.

EDIT: You know, we should probably end this argument before it gets ugly. I have no qualms with you, and I may have overreacted over this whole thing.

Modifié par PseudoEthnic, 06 février 2011 - 09:28 .

[Manic Sheep]

Not like you could Miranda for her personality, No she has large breast, wears form fitting clothing and has rich dad. Obviously there is nothing else too her and she’s only here as a fan service. Couldn’t possibly be that some may actually *gasp* like her for who she is.

[Icinix]

Yes. She is sexy.



When her personality and humanity is laid bare for you to see, she is beautiful.

[biomag]

Yes. In this game she also has the most detailed and realistic face of all. I think her face is really beautiful (eyes especially)... I am also into tattooed girls, so no complaints about that either.



But that's just about looks. I ain't a fan of crazy-people for romances...

[Loki330]

mrsph wrote...

Fictional girlfriends.

Serious Business.

Verily, good sir.

[Errationatus]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

I base my attraction to the opposite sex on what they AND what they look like. What's wrong with having both? Their personality may mean more in a long-term relationship, but in order to start one, you're going to need both personality and looks. That's reality.

No.  That's you.  Any viable exception to a rule invalidates that rule.  As they say, the biggest sex organ is the brain.  Feed my head and the rest of me follows.

[My Shepard] is dating a stong-minded and attractive partner. In fact, ALL of the love interests are strong-minded and attractive.

That's disputable.  Personally, my list of "love interests" in the ME series would go like this:

Chakwas
Samara
Liara
Jack
Tali
Kasumi
Shiala
Gabrielle
Kelly
Urz
Miranda

...but that's me.

EDIT: You know, we should probably end this argument before it gets ugly. I have no qualms with you, and I may have overreacted over this whole thing.

I have and had no intention of anything "becoming ugly".  Just having a discussion.  Neither you nor myself are responsible for how others might react.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Collider wrote...

It will be a glorious day on BSN when people stop assuming things about each other for what they do in a video game.

Amen. You like one character or have a favourite and suddenly there is rivalry. Pfft...

[Errationatus]

Sundown Native wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

Not like you could Miranda for her personality, No she has large breast, wears form fitting clothing and has rich dad. Obviously there is nothing else too her and she’s only here as a fan service. Couldn’t possibly be that some may actually *gasp* like her for who she is.

Oh, you could. But it'd be hard, as it would with Jack.

With Miri, it's being human first that would tick off a guy/gal that accepts aliens. Doesn't mean he/she's got to immediately hate Miranda. You just gotta agree to disagree on some things.

Same thing goes for Jack. You might not approve of how she lives her life, but you still like her. You can try to help her with/without romancing her, or just agree to disagree.

I'd personally go with the former. It shows you care.

Jack actually goes through a transformative experience.  Miranda doesn't.  There is no real character change for her.  She simply divorces herself from another domineering male influence, after developing some small conscience she lacked previously - which then actually gives her conscience.  She's a shallow woman with shallow reasons and is mostly a self-serving opportunist.  Her relationships have been many and empty.  She forms no emotional attachments because she's incapable of it - and she blames everyone except herself for this lack.  If anyone is redeemed by the Mighty Shep Mojo, it is she.

People see Miranda and they project in because they want this "spectacular T&A" to be more than just T&A.  Perhaps in ME3.  But not here, not in ME2.

People see Jack and they project out ("she needs hair and boobs and no tattoos for me to even look at her!" What unbelievable arrogance!)  Jack comes packed with personality.  You just need the perception to see it.  Miranda... just comes packed. 

Tali... well, you'll never know the real Tali.  Her followers won't allow it.  More's the pity.

[Collider]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Collider wrote...

It will be a glorious day on BSN when people stop assuming things about each other for what they do in a video game.

Amen. You like one character or have a favourite and suddenly there is rivalry. Pfft...

It's truly ridiculous.

[Khaos2000]

Miranda is by far the shallowest of the love interests for me in ME2, Jack appeals to the 'rescuer' type (And she appealed to me) because there is something compelling and beautiful about Jack that you want to 'fix' her. If not 'fix' then at least 'help'.



Tali is the cute girl who you never thought of in that way until she finally feels so strongly that she comes out of her shell for you. Tali is the tragic romance in that it comes with risks to personal health and life but the feelings are strong for her and -shepherd- is her fairy tale knight in shining armor.



Liara of course couldn't even let you go and is probably the most 'powerful' emotionally speaking of all the LI's imho (After LoTSB of course, before that... well not getting into it here).



While Miranda is shallower she still has her personality perks: She's a strong aggressive woman who knows what she likes and wants and will do her best to get it, in fact never taking no for an answer to a point. She is the most like Shepherd in that 'Strong' personality kind of way, an Alpha and -this- makes her not have the best social skills.



What it all comes down to is each LI has their pro's, their con's, and inbetweens which will be driven by our perception of them, which will be as unique as there are individuals playing the game essentially since none of us look at things -exactly- alike.



Jack, is a beautiful character, I found her model to be very well done and her personality was very refreshing to me. As much as I hate covering her beautiful tattoo's however, the loyalty vest just looks better to me than the strap.

[Vociferation]

I dig all the experiences. Played 16 characters now 1/2 fem 1/2 male. I've banged 'em all - mwahaha. I tend to go for Kelly when I want to maintain my ME1 romance for the ME3 carry over. All in all, my faves have been Jack and Tali. Since I'm a dude...I checked out the fellas one time each but not that into it for my fem characters...they mostly end up with Liara through to the end or Kellygrl coz she keeps putting out - yea I know, CHee - Z!!!