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[obsessedwjpn]

Nonoru wrote...

Wait,they will keep the same clothes ? Aww..

Not the SAME clothes but similar ones. You do upgrade their armor throughout the game still and Gaider has mentioned that there will be moments over the ten years where they might change.

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Bruce Venne wrote...

You will be able to equip you companions with amulets, rings and belts. They don't change your companion's appearance, but they will improve their stats.

at least there's that.  Here's to hoping every companion has more than 2 outfits in DA2.  I wish we could change the colors of the outfits/armors.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

not quite the point Sylvius,The point is that PST did not lack on the tactical point of view just because you could not customize clothings, the only "shortcomings" if you want to call them that were aestetic ones

I thought you were talking about ME2 (a game I very much dislike).  PST (an excellent game) did lack custom appearances.

I would argue that the games are different in kind, howerver, as each PST companion was a unique type.  There was only one Modron.  There was only one Githzerai.

DA2 (and ME2) feature companions of types seen throughout the world.  Isabela (or Jack) is not the only female human, so I see no reason why she can't wear clothing for female humans.

at which point the whole thing becomes pretty much subjective, I am totally ok with static outfits as long as they make sense

I think static outfits on their own are a silly idea that add nothing to the game, but I'll accept them if they don't restrict our ability to customise our characters' armour-related statistics.

In DAO, I could put Leliana in Massive Armour.  If I can increase Isabela's stats to approximate massive armour, I won't have substantive complaints.

Im convinced your a robot.  anyways, I think you might be disappointed with this in Da2.

[Ryzaki]

Nonoru wrote...

Wait,they will keep the same clothes ? Aww..

Some will change outfits but that's the exception rather than the rule.

You're not the only one disappointed.

Ah BW. You and your frankly unispired and boring as hell character outfits. *sighs*

Modifié par Ryzaki, 05 février 2011 - 02:53 .

[Black_Warden]

Ryzaki wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Wait,they will keep the same clothes ? Aww..

Some will change outfits but that's the exception rather than the rule.

You're not the only one disappointed.

Ah BW. You and your frankly unispired and boring as hell character outfits. *sighs*

as Soulreaver and I pointed out earlier in this thread, the Laidlaw quote that people keep paraphrasing as "Some will change outfits but that's the exception rather than the rule" can just as easily be read as "Most will change outfits, though there are exeptions."

Please don't state it as fact until it is confirmed as such. it's posts like this that confuse less informed people who are trying to learn more about this game.

Modifié par Black_Warden, 05 février 2011 - 04:20 .

[Ryzaki]

But that's the exception rather than the rule. Somehow means more characters will change clothes? 

...Did we just read the same sentence?

And if someone had misinterpreted his quote as being worse than it it was why would Laidlaw not correct them? 

Grasping at straws. Most characters are going to be the rule. A few might be the exception. We have no way of knowing which characters are which but changing clothes is going to be the exception.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 05 février 2011 - 04:40 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

crimzontearz wrote...

now with that in mind IU dislike ME2's outfits solely when they become ridiculous (let's see Jack's, Miranda's and Samara are the worst offenders followed by Grunt's and Vanilla Thane's)

The ridiculousness didn't actually bother me in ME2.

I disliked those outfits (though they were far from my least favourite part of the game) because they were so ugly.  I literally had to mod the game to make it playable.

That's a real risk of pre-set companion appearances.

crimzontearz wrote...
you know maybe you should just head over to the Skyrim or TW2 boards.....just saying [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

I realise you weren't responding to me, but since Skyrim and TW2 have action combat, they're really not at all similar to DA2.

[Sylvius the Mad]

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Im convinced your a robot.  anyways, I think you might be disappointed with this in Da2.

And maybe I will.  But we don't know yet, because for some reason they won't tell us.

[Black_Warden]

Ryzaki wrote...

But that's the exception rather than the rule. Somehow means more characters will change clothes? 

...Did we just read the same sentence?

And if someone had misinterpreted his quote as being worse than it it was why would Laidlaw not correct them? 

Grasping at straws. Most characters are going to be the rule. A few might be the exception. We have no way of knowing which characters are which but changing clothes is going to be the exception.

the way the sentence reads (look back earlier in the thread, soul reaver quoted it), it sounds like Mike Laidlaw is saying the the ones who don't change their outfit are the exception (though, i admit, it was worded strangely and could be interpreted your way just as easily as mine).

He may not have corrected those who misinterpreted him for the same reasons any dev decides not to comment on any issue.

i'm not saying that you're wrong, i'm saying that because the only dev response we have on this question is not especially clear, we don't have a definitive answer. as such, neither you nor I should state as fact something that we can't confirm (yet) to actually be a fact.

[Dave of Canada]

I like this change. I'll be able to relate to the character more and the look of somebody can tell you a lot about them in addition to seeing unique mannerisms in dialogue.

That and we got rid of the atrocious looking Origins armor.

Edit: Also forgot that they don't have to remove some pieces of a race *cough* Qunari *cough* to make sure every piece of armor fits on them. It was odd seeing Darkspawn using a similar armor as a bandit who was using a similar armor to a knight that was using my armor.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 05 février 2011 - 09:13 .

[SilentK]

You can't win them all. There are some changes that I love as a voiced Hawke and there's this change that isn't really the best one for me      it's not so bad, I fully anticipate to end up loving DA2 as much as I love DA, ME and ME2 and I like it that they have really designed outfits. It's just that I really liked being able to change their clothes. For example Morrigan, I just don't like showing so much skin. Figureshowing yes, showing everything no but that's just me. But since there are more people playing I cannot really expect them to cater only to my wishes. Keeping my fingers for a dlc with wardrobe. Personally I'm looking forward to the next ME2 dlc. Perhaps we will one day get dlc with cool new outfits, and hopefully someday soon  :happy:  

[Jaldaris93]

SilentK wrote...


You can't win them all. There are some changes that I love as a voiced Hawke and there's this change that isn't really the best one for me      it's not so bad, I fully anticipate to end up loving DA2 as much as I love DA, ME and ME2 and I like it that they have really designed outfits. It's just that I really liked being able to change their clothes. For example Morrigan, I just don't like showing so much skin. Figureshowing yes, showing everything no but that's just me. But since there are more people playing I cannot really expect them to cater only to my wishes. Keeping my fingers for a dlc with wardrobe. Personally I'm looking forward to the next ME2 dlc. Perhaps we will one day get dlc with cool new outfits, and hopefully someday soon  :happy:  

I agree with you, after all if you do have the choice of changing your companions' clothing, you feel more in control and it is more like your story and isn't it that the aim of a Bioware game? (You also could argue that if the companions had their choice of clothing, it is more reflective of their personality and character) But anyway, just like you said, Bioware could always release an Alternative Appearance Pack for Dragon Age II.

[hawat333]

Bruce Venne wrote...

You will be able to equip you companions with amulets, rings and belts. They don't change your companion's appearance, but they will improve their stats.

So it's a fantasy RPG when you can't even give your companions armor, weapons, staffs, and such?

Maybe I was mislead somewhere, could someone clarify the genre of the game? Is it an RPG or an action/RPG, because the more I read about the mechanics, the more uncertain I am.

[nightcobra]

hawat333 wrote...

Bruce Venne wrote...

You will be able to equip you companions with amulets, rings and belts. They don't change your companion's appearance, but they will improve their stats.

So it's a fantasy RPG when you can't even give your companions armor, weapons, staffs, and such?

Maybe I was mislead somewhere, could someone clarify the genre of the game? Is it an RPG or an action/RPG, because the more I read about the mechanics, the more uncertain I am.

companions weapons can also be changed, and companions outfits can be upgraded and be added runes for additional effects.

[Herr Uhl]

hawat333 wrote...

Bruce Venne wrote...

You will be able to equip you companions with amulets, rings and belts. They don't change your companion's appearance, but they will improve their stats.

So it's a fantasy RPG when you can't even give your companions armor, weapons, staffs, and such?

Maybe I was mislead somewhere, could someone clarify the genre of the game? Is it an RPG or an action/RPG, because the more I read about the mechanics, the more uncertain I am.

You can give them weapons too, just no armor. And the RPG and ARPG is the most tired debate there is on this forum, apart from "what is a RPG".

[raziel3080]

hawat333 wrote...

Bruce Venne wrote...

You will be able to equip you companions with amulets, rings and belts. They don't change your companion's appearance, but they will improve their stats.

So it's a fantasy RPG when you can't even give your companions armor, weapons, staffs, and such?

Maybe I was mislead somewhere, could someone clarify the genre of the game? Is it an RPG or an action/RPG, because the more I read about the mechanics, the more uncertain I am.

You can switch weapons around with your companions...just not their chosen wield style... for instance Isabella is dual-wielding rogue( daggers is the name but some favor shortswords in appearance), she however can NOT be turned into a archer rogue.

edit: :ph34r:ed twice 

Modifié par raziel3080, 05 février 2011 - 10:20 .

[Leoroc]

Would really like companies to stop stripping rpg aspects from their games. That attitude is why I play pathfinder not 4e. I hated this in ME2 and look forward to seeing it modded away.

[crimzontearz]

Sylvius that last sentence was obviously a joke...the fact that the games have uncomparable features was just the kicker



now



why are people forgetting that we were told we can buy upgraded version of companion outfits?



Sure, it is not modular armor but each companion will have upgraded vestments and whatnot that we can buy or find for them. On top of all other stat boosting items



I honestly wonder just why people are complaining

[Maconbar]

I would prefer unique body models and choice in armor. Lacking that I think that I would prefer to have unique body models. One thing that I didn't like about DA:O is that if you put Leliana, Wynne, and Morrigan in the same armor they had identical bodies. That just seemed very out of place to me.

[Spartansfan8888]

What about gifts that end up being equipable; something like Sten's sword comes to mind only in this case it would be a new suit of armor.

[Beerfish]

Maconbar wrote...

I would prefer unique body models and choice in armor. Lacking that I think that I would prefer to have unique body models. One thing that I didn't like about DA:O is that if you put Leliana, Wynne, and Morrigan in the same armor they had identical bodies. That just seemed very out of place to me.

Exactly and this is the trade off.  Unique bodies and very limited outfits or the same bodies and able to wear everything.  Whether they made the right choice probably varies from person to person.

[crimzontearz]

^ this



also, there are equippable gifts according to the devs

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crimzontearz wrote...

^ this

also, there are equippable gifts according to the devs

and rings and belts

[Potato Cat]

I like the fact they keep their look. I never put Morrigan in anything else other than the Robes of Possession, which keep her look. I just wish they multiple outfits you could select, more than ME2, preferably. I hardly ever used the original outfits on my ME2 companions, but used the alternate cosume instead. Especially with Jack, her original was obscene.

[Morning808]

Whatever more loot for me then! SUCKERS!