Krytheos wrote...
Since I don't want to quote a huge wall of text, and more walls of text to clog up space, is it fine that I just bolded the message and replied hitherforth?
Biologically speaking, one could argue that they do in fact, interbreed, though not necessarily in any tradtional sense; this is a hypothetical passage, so forgive me if it seems pretentious, or silly in anyway; this is just a possible explanation of clarifying or using the Biology definition, of which I am not. I prefer the logic definition, as it seems more fitting.
A possibility exists that the geth do in fact, interbreed, though as I said, not traditionally; they don't have intercourse, but they do reproduce in a fashion not unakin to your average everyday program; if you apply the knowedlge of how Legion says at one point that they 'evolved' from a series of complex programs, it is not unlike cellular mitosis, a process that might in fact be similar to how geth such as Legion, evolved. As Legion says, they are each individual programs that give their own inputs and calculations, to form a collective consciousness that form opinions, some dissenting, some not, in their own way, making each program an individuaised program.
Ultimately, what this means is they could have, and utilized, a form similar to cellular reproduction, which is called Mitosis. Through this method of reproduction, the programs are interacting and interbreeding with one another in a similar fashion to our own cells, which then can make up the many programs that form up the geth collective consciousness that make an individualised geth such as Legion a possible endeavor.
In short: I personally use the Logic definition, as it seems much more fitting, but it could be possible to also use the biological definition as well; it wouldn't be too far-fetched, I would think.
That is fine. I was about to do the samething when I was originally posting that response.
Mitosis is not "interbeeding" as mitosis merely creates an identical duplicate of the mother cell. This is asexual reproduction. There is no need of interaction between organisms in mitosis because it is merely the reproduction of a single parent cell that is necessary. The only thing that this form of reproduction ever creates is identical cells as a result. This would certainly make your biological definition plausible, but then this would lead me to wonder how the Geth ever achieved sentience, or even managed to split into 2 entirely different factions, if the only reproduction they go through is the same reproduction you get by copying a file off of your harddrive and then storing it to a USB (which is essentially the samething as mitosis). There has to be something else behind their reproduction, otherwise the way they evolved wouldn't make sense.
Moving on, my biggest problem with using the logic part of your defintion is that at the end, it seeks to use the word "genus", which in of itself is also a word dealing with the study of biology. No matter what, all of those defintions fly straight into the field of biology and I think attempting to apply biology as a science to the Geth just doesn't make any sense, nor is it appropriate, as a lot of the "core" theories of biology simply do not apply to the Geth. Nothing in our world today is even comparable to the Geth.
Really, one of the biggest problems for biology with the Geth is can we even call them an organism (you can't even have a genus if you have no organism)? Technically, an organism has to be able to reproduce itself, grow, sustain homeostasis, and be a "living" thing. After applying that, now we move onto what is a living thing? Well, most people would define a living thing as something that responds to stimuli and survives. Finally, we get down to what is survival? Survival is any process that an organism has to go through just to stay alive, but what happens if something doesn't stay alive? Well for biology, if something doesn't stay alive then it dies. However, can the Geth actually die? Keep in mind one of the core ideas for biology is that the self-sustaining processes of life do eventually cease to function and this process is irreversible. However if the Geth are programs, is it impossible to reverse the effects of death? Likewise if you cloned a single Geth program, is it impossible for it to be totally identical in the sameway that if I cloned you, it would be impossible for you and your clone to share the same memories or levels of intelligence at that point in time?
What I'm driving at is that the Geth are kind of an animal all of their own that seem like, along with any other machine-based life form, would require a science all of their own. They obviously do not reproduce through mitosis, as this would simply keep creating the same Geth programs over and over. However, they also don't reproduce sexually as they lack the genetic capability to achieve it. Likewise, the Geth, EDE, and the Reapers themselves all constitute a form of life that our study of life today, biology, appears to be entirely incompatible with.
Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 05 février 2011 - 10:44 .
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