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ME3. How to reward the Renegade?


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Zulu_DFA wrote...

If you have Conrad Verner killed in ME1 or 2, in 3 you can make out with his hawt wife!


I like to think Conrads wife is just another layer of his insanity. Some woman he's become fixaded on and believes he's married.

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"I came, I saw... I left".



Happy flame war.

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Zulu_DFA

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Slidell505 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

If you have Conrad Verner killed in ME1 or 2, in 3 you can make out with his hawt wife!


I like to think Conrads wife is just another layer of his insanity. Some woman he's become fixaded on and believes he's married.


All the more reason to make out with her.

Unless she turns out to be that woman discussing entertainment on the Citadel with a Salarian, sitting near the Consort's entrance.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Renegades have Geth army if you let Cerberus keep David Archer, without any diplomacy.
Quarians get their homeworld also and didn't do anything and they will be forever in debt to Cerberus and humanity.



OK seriously, when I start to do something we both want you ignore me.

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The universe being rid of more stupid people is the reward for renegade shep. The rachni being gone means one less obstacle to human domination.



What shep should get in ME3 is the opportunity to replace TIM as the head of Cerberus. TIM is charismatic and manipulative and that has served Cerberus well in their ability to raise money and acquire resources. However, shep is his equal and uses those resources far more effectively.

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I'd just be happy if they acknowledged how Renegade Shep might feel about some people.

Considering Shep could freak out about mindmelds in ME it bugs me a bit how no matter that happening Shep hugs Liara when first sees her on Ilium even if Renegade Shep probably only went there just to get info on Thane and nothing more than that.

Like with how they allowed Renegades to comment on how Shep feels about people pointing guns at them to Tali on Freedoms Progress and then get the opportunity to not recruit her, unlike in ME where she had to be recruited despite renegade shep's protest.

If it costs me a squadmate or more due to not having Liara's help in ME3, I'd be fine with that just as I was with my Sheps that didn't recruit Tali in ME2 losing someone due to no shield upgrade. Whilst it might not be seen as a reward due to squadmate loss, I consider it a reward in that I got the choice.

As for the Geth situation, I have to say that I see them as using that as potential 'trial fodder' for the prosecutor to throw at Shepard, claiming him to have gone rogue just like Saren had, attempting to control a Geth army.

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How do you know Verner's wife is hot? I would hink the opposite. he might be like the John candy character in Planes, trains, and Automobiles. He might not actually have a wife. He seems quite scatterbrained and apparently has no real job either.



I'd say rewards would be making separate renegade only quests that are meaningful. Not eveil for the lulz of it, but hard decisions that require a ruthless calculating mind. Try to save everyone which gets everyone kiled or seal off half the station saving half of the lives. Note paragons would not know they will fail previously. They need decisions that end poorly. it has been all roses and sunshine and in real life things don't always work out or in ways you plan. The rengade can defintiely plan and execute things with an eye on the big picture.

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Lots of "little blue children" after Shepard eliminates the Reapers, Udina, the Bararians, Cerberus & TIM.

Wrex unites the Krogran and makes Tukunka better, while Mordin & Maleon cure Grunt's genophage so Grunt's "line can fix it!"

Grunt gets his own Mass Effect trilogy of "Mass Effect #; The Adventures of Urdnot Grunt." Lots combat and mayhem, Grunt visits his Battle Master Shepard to share war stories.

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Miranda could turn on you. Cerberus protects miranda's sister to keep miranda's loyalty. Miranda after the paragon suicide ending is no longer loyal to cerberus. cerberus sells miranda's sister to her father to get money. Miranda is pissed at you. . . .

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Oh, Zulu. I'm kind of disappointed. I never expected you to be one of the "renegades need a reward" cry babys. The reward for being a renegade is the fun of being renegade. That is all. The last thing a renegade needs is bunch of "Thank You" e-mails.

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The universe being rid of more stupid people is the reward for renegade shep. The rachni being gone means one less obstacle to human domination.

What shep should get in ME3 is the opportunity to replace TIM as the head of Cerberus. TIM is charismatic and manipulative and that has served Cerberus well in their ability to raise money and acquire resources. However, shep is his equal and uses those resources far more effectively.


Of all the things written here, Shep taking over Cerberus is I think the most likely. I can't see the Alliance taking him back, the Council refused to renew his Spectre status and he can't really trust TIM, so I see it as the logical thing for Renegade Shep to do. Unlimited resources and a chance to combine his new resources with Liara in her position as the SB. Would put Shep in a very strong position to recruit/blackmail pretty much all races to join in his defence of Earth and the bigger battle with the Reapers.

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rma2110 wrote...

Oh, Zulu. I'm kind of disappointed. I never expected you to be one of the "renegades need a reward" cry babys. The reward for being a renegade is the fun of being renegade. That is all. The last thing a renegade needs is bunch of "Thank You" e-mails.


Oh, that's sad. But I believe I pointed out, that I was happy with the Galaxy and Shepard's mailbox being "emptier" as a result of the renegade choices in ME1. Nothing says there shouldn't be any surprizes at all coming out of them though. Especially since the paragons aren't going to get nearly as much biting in the arse as they deserve.

But whatever. Anyone can have a moment of weakness, so consider this thread as mine.

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I have a reward for renegades, Rachni Shock... no wait

Multi Species co- hrmmmm

All of the decisions that will bite them turn to the paragon option, that's a good reward.

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If you kill the Biotic God, or rather, let him be killed, his son follows in his daddy's footsteps and becomes Biotic God 2.0! His goal is to kill asari and/or eclipse mercs with his powerful biotics. He raises a powerful army of volus biotics to help you...and you use a renegade option to lie to him to gain his trust.

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Zulu_DFA

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Lekwid wrote...

If you kill the Biotic God, or rather, let him be killed, his son follows in his daddy's footsteps and becomes Biotic God 2.0! His goal is to kill asari and/or eclipse mercs with his powerful biotics. He raises a powerful army of volus biotics to help you...and you use a renegade option to lie to him to gain his trust.


Lie to gain trust, huh? I like it. Mighty renegade!

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paragon shepard will probably die in sacrafice in Me3. Renegade Shepard will survive. I think thats a huge reward in itself.

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Works for me I'm hoping for a heroic death.

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Jeesh I'm trying to read through some of these excellent renegade reward ideas and every other post is a paragon trying to be a troll! Its absurdity makes it hilarious especially since Zulu just wants to have a conversation about Mass Effect on the Mass Effect boards!



Anyway back on topic! I would really love it if saving the Collectors base meant you didn't need to recruit allies in ME3 because Cerberus builds a super weapon. Then I want the option of turning it on the other Mass Effect species in order to secure human dominance!

AND I REALLY LOVE THE BRAINWASHED GETH IDEA IT WOULD ****** SO MANY GETH FANBOYS OFF! Sorry for shouting, but I would pay double for that option in game!

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AdmiralCheez

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I missed the part where renegades were screwed over in the first place.

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Xilizhra

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As Zulu said, Renegadeness is frequently its own reward by not having annoying people around. I see no reason for this trend to not continue.

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Renegades get the best lines, period. That in itself is the best reward, IMO.

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My Darth Vadar Shepard is looking foward to having his Geth Storm Troopers cement human dominance

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By giving the first set of cerebus date to the SB and then keeping the next set, none of it ever comes to light so cerebus evil reputation fades away.



Net result increased cerebus army (easier for them to recruit when there not viewed as terrorists) or better equipment (able to buy/research stuff easier since there not viewed as terrorists) for cerebus army or both.



slightly OT but i don't get how keeping the base is gonna be a reward, its based off collector/reaper tech so they know where the off switch/auto destruct switch is. One of the opening scenes is prolly panning through where the collector base use to be because you destroyed it or watching it go bang since it auto destructs.

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In the books Cerberus gets tech from the Reaper base even if you destroyed it! So imagine how much more tech you will get if you didn't! Ultimate Power!

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EternalPink wrote...

By giving the first set of cerebus date to the SB and then keeping the next set, none of it ever comes to light so cerebus evil reputation fades away.

Net result increased cerebus army (easier for them to recruit when there not viewed as terrorists) or better equipment (able to buy/research stuff easier since there not viewed as terrorists) for cerebus army or both.

slightly OT but i don't get how keeping the base is gonna be a reward, its based off collector/reaper tech so they know where the off switch/auto destruct switch is. One of the opening scenes is prolly panning through where the collector base use to be because you destroyed it or watching it go bang since it auto destructs.


Cerebus takes a huge hit in the last mass effect novel after me2 that affects its recruiting. but maybe novels dont count