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ME3. How to reward the Renegade?


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BioWare has done this before, hadn't they?

KotOR Dark Side Victory:
www.youtube.com/watch

I foresee another epic speech by Jennifer Hale in the Renegade FemShep ending.

"The Council Fleet is decimated. The Citadel Space is defenseless against us. Humanity has finally ensured its unquestionable dominance in the Galaxy."

Unless Shepard can somehow become the leader of the Galaxy as a Paragon (social.bioware.com/2312506/blog/12663/), I'll do at least one Renegade ending just for kicks.

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We get a recording of Jack and Miranda's biotic mud wrestling showdown.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

We get a recording of Jack and Miranda's biotic mud wrestling showdown.

This also.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

There is another instance where you can side with a criminal, which is a clear renegade option: on Samara's recruitment mission you can give to Pitne For the evidence of his illegal dealings with the Eclipse. So how about he shows some additional appreciation of it in ME3? And I don't mean a "thank you" e-mail. I mean a VOLUS ARMY!!!


Volus funding makes sense. Volus army is an oxymoron....  Based on how little finishing the survey quest in ME1 does for you though, I wouldn't hold my breath on anything meaningful there.....

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The universe being rid of more stupid people is the reward for renegade shep. The rachni being gone means one less obstacle to human domination.

What shep should get in ME3 is the opportunity to replace TIM as the head of Cerberus. TIM is charismatic and manipulative and that has served Cerberus well in their ability to raise money and acquire resources. However, shep is his equal and uses those resources far more effectively.


This. Definately this. Or to be elected head of the Alliance with similar results ala Washington, Eisenhower, or any of the other generals who became president.

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marshalleck wrote...

I'm not sure what role Anderson would fill as a team member. He's essentially the future version of Shepard--former special ops commando gone leadership brass. Shepard has just recently begun his role as captain and leader, whereas Anderson's is winding down. And Shepard no longer needs a mentor after the conclusion of his own loyalty mission, the recruitment and readying of his team for the suicide mission--so...?


Shepard could use an experienced ship's commander, though.... one that has the common sense to shout "Joker, GIVE US SOME DISTANCE" when a foreign cruiser is bearing down on your frigate.

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thatguy212 wrote...

Zurcior if you are reporting people with the "report this post" button i should let you know that all it really does is send you an email saying "oh yah we totally looked into it"

On topic, a reward that i would love for my renegade shepard is the chance to either start my own secret organization or become the new illusive man, and boy would i make new changes, such as casual fridays, a stripper pole for kelly, etc


Actually people do get kicked out of the forums, at least temporarily... or at least they did in the ME1 forums. Just because they look at a post doesn't mean they will take action, but it doesn't mean they won't either.

Kelly could sell a lot of 'human goodwill', couldn't she? :P

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I'm just tired of the holier than thou attitude people seem to have in these threads. Its like people actually hate other people because they decide to play a certain way. And then when people want to talk about their decisions and how they want them to play out in ME3 all you have are people coming into the thread and spouting one liners, trying to start a flame war. I guess I just need to start ignoring these people and their rude behavior.

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Actually, we find that your complaints of getting shafted are a bit annoying, and calling for us to be punished is a lot annoying.

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So where in Zulu's post did it call for paragon's to be punished? And why are people upset that he's asking for extra content for renegades? I don't know about you lot, but I play with multiple characters. Extra content for renegades and extra content for paragons sounds great to me.

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I play as paragon most of the time, I don't think the renegades are shafted and I don't want paragons to be "punished." I just want something cool to happen for people who played Renegade. I also want a cool ending for people who play paragon.

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Renegades get Collector Base and insanely powered Reaper Tech; Paragons get Rachni, Krogan, Geth, Quarian, and Council.

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naledgeborn wrote...

Renegades get Collector Base and insanely powered Reaper Tech; Paragons get Rachni, Krogan, Geth, Quarian, and Council.


Why would the Krogan, geth, quarian, and Counci not help renegade ShepardsImage IPB

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James2912 wrote...

I'm just tired of the holier than thou attitude people seem to have in these threads. Its like people actually hate other people because they decide to play a certain way. And then when people want to talk about their decisions and how they want them to play out in ME3 all you have are people coming into the thread and spouting one liners, trying to start a flame war. I guess I just need to start ignoring these people and their rude behavior.


Think about what you just said and apply it. Why should everyone be expected to enjoy the game as much as you seem to? Why are you seeming to object to people voicing opinions simply because they disagree with yours?

If you defend the game in response to someone's criticism, aren't you in turn criticizing their opinion? Not saying every criticism is right either... just asking you to adopt the same consideration that you seem to be expecting of others.

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jbblue05 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Renegades get Collector Base and insanely powered Reaper Tech; Paragons get Rachni, Krogan, Geth, Quarian, and Council.


Why would the Krogan, geth, quarian, and Counci not help renegade ShepardsImage IPB

To me the krogan seem more likely to help a renegade because if the genophage is cured then all of wrex's work could be undone, the geth could be controlled by keeping overlord going, quarians would help because if we control the geth then they can get their homeworld back, and isn't the new council just full of yes men picked by udina? so we just need to explain how it'll help humanity's place in the galaxy and he'll be on board

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jbblue05 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Renegades get Collector Base and insanely powered Reaper Tech; Paragons get Rachni, Krogan, Geth, Quarian, and Council.


Why would the Krogan, geth, quarian, and Counci not help renegade ShepardsImage IPB


Renegades would likely have written of the Geth out of distrust, as well as the Council. Not sure the reasoning regarding the Quarians....

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jbblue05 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Renegades get Collector Base and insanely powered Reaper Tech; Paragons get Rachni, Krogan, Geth, Quarian, and Council.


Why would the Krogan, geth, quarian, and Counci not help renegade ShepardsImage IPB


Renegade Shepard sells Legion to Cerberus and pushes for war between Geth and Quarians
Renegade Shepard sacrifices Council
Renegade Shepard headbutts Krogans(oh wait that means they would actually join)

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Null_ wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Renegades get Collector Base and insanely powered Reaper Tech; Paragons get Rachni, Krogan, Geth, Quarian, and Council.


Why would the Krogan, geth, quarian, and Counci not help renegade ShepardsImage IPB


Renegade Shepard sells Legion to Cerberus and pushes for war between Geth and Quarians
Renegade Shepard sacrifices Council
Renegade Shepard headbutts Krogans(oh wait that means they would actually join)


Renegades can destroy the heretics and they have Project overlord to control the Geth

I doubt the Council are going to sit back and let the reapers "reap"Image IPB

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

I missed the part where renegades were screwed over in the first place.


The LotSB, for instance. The renegades were hated there. Not only they got less content (as always, not surprising, so not really upsetting), but they were not even allowed to be themselves!

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

I foresee another epic speech by Jennifer Hale in the Renegade FemShep ending.

Speeches are for paragons. Renegades have their guns do the talking for them.

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I just came up with a new (or not) idea!

Maybe it's time for everyone in the game to actually acknowlegde renegade Shepard's scars? Hell, let's have an indtimidation dialog related to having the scars!

"You look nervous... Is it the scars?! You wanna know how I got them?"

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jbblue05 wrote...

I doubt the Council are going to sit back and let the reapers "reap"Image IPB


The council races could well sit back and let Earth burn.  Defending the Citadel is the logical priority for them

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Lizardviking wrote...

I just came up with a new (or not) idea!

Maybe it's time for everyone in the game to actually acknowlegde renegade Shepard's scars? Hell, let's have an indtimidation dialog related to having the scars!

"You look nervous... Is it the scars?! You wanna know how I got them?"

This isn't a good idea at all.

The scars were just a stupid way to fine the Renegade for 50K of platinum. Luckilly, there is the Gibbed's Save Editor.

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jbblue05 wrote...
I doubt the Council are going to sit back and let the reapers "reap"Image IPB


they might not, but that doesn't mean they would trust renegade shep enough to work with him.

They might also be indoctrinated, but that would more likely hurt paragons than renegades.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

I just came up with a new (or not) idea!

Maybe it's time for everyone in the game to actually acknowlegde renegade Shepard's scars? Hell, let's have an indtimidation dialog related to having the scars!

"You look nervous... Is it the scars?! You wanna know how I got them?"

This isn't a good idea at all.

The scars were just a stupid way to fine the Renegade for 50K of platinum. Luckilly, there is the Gibbed's Save Editor.


There was something cartoony over the scars that I liked. Althrough I was annoyed no-one talked about them.

Also remember the scars might be possible foreshadowing of Shepard being implanted with Reaper-tech. Evolution even (possible) hinted at this.