His gf is not the last of her species though, and is (presumably) consenting.
Renegades are persecuted!
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#77
Posté 06 février 2011 - 12:13
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ReconTeam wrote...
If it's smart enough to talk it is smart enough to lie.
Wow. Fascinating tautology. Completely useless as far as determining whether or not practically anybody in either game is telling you the truth at any given time. Definitely a crappy basis for making any given decision you'd care to name.
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Posté 06 février 2011 - 03:17
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I am almost primarily a renegade player and even I find renegade players that whine about being "deprived" of content in ME2 due to their own choices to be moronic. *I* made the choice to kill [character], so *I* have to live with the fact that I won't see them in ME2. Suck it up and deal with it, people.
The only issue I really have is when I see paragon players demanding that renegade players be actively punished for their choices. Not just deprived of seeing characters that they've killed (or someone related to them in some way), but actively punished. That just irks me because, hey, why do you care what happens in a renegade playthrough since you presumably won't be playing it?
The same goes double for renegades. It really bothers me to see people demanding that paragon players be actively 'punished' for their idealistic decisions. Come on, people. Why does anyone need to be punished at all? Every decision in the games has a valid point for both sides so can't we all just agree to let everyone else make their own decisions and live with the future consequences without having to demand for the other side to be treated like crap because they didn't play the way you do?
The only issue I really have is when I see paragon players demanding that renegade players be actively punished for their choices. Not just deprived of seeing characters that they've killed (or someone related to them in some way), but actively punished. That just irks me because, hey, why do you care what happens in a renegade playthrough since you presumably won't be playing it?
The same goes double for renegades. It really bothers me to see people demanding that paragon players be actively 'punished' for their idealistic decisions. Come on, people. Why does anyone need to be punished at all? Every decision in the games has a valid point for both sides so can't we all just agree to let everyone else make their own decisions and live with the future consequences without having to demand for the other side to be treated like crap because they didn't play the way you do?
Modifié par TS2Aggie, 06 février 2011 - 11:18 .
#80
Posté 06 février 2011 - 03:31
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STG wrote...
I liked the "Troll Detected" pic better. And, unlike this pic, it would really suit here.
#81
Posté 06 février 2011 - 06:43
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Didn't you get the memo?
It's not trolling if you're a paragon.
It's not trolling if you're a paragon.
#82
Posté 06 février 2011 - 06:44
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A small but vocal percentage sure like to think that, I bet they smell their own farts.GodWood wrote...
Didn't you get the memo?
It's not trolling if you're a paragon.
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#83
Posté 06 février 2011 - 07:15
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While I get the joke, it seems that any thread discussing Renegades or Paragons is the Forum equivalent of an Elder God attracting all of the people (darkspawn) who believe the other side should be punished for their existance, thus turning this into a Renegade V Paragon thread, so I must post.
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Posté 06 février 2011 - 07:22
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To OP: [Sarcasm on] Totaly unfair, especialy as the renegade choices are the only logical and right choice. In fact its those stupid paragon traitors to the human race that should be punished, just to prove that I am right and smart.[/Sarcasm off]
#85
Posté 07 février 2011 - 08:58
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Why this thread isn't on 1st page?
Do people take too seriously?
Do people take too seriously?
#86
Posté 07 février 2011 - 09:16
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But theres no one left to persecute my renegade shepard he killed them all : D
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Posté 07 février 2011 - 09:18
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Mesina2 wrote...
Why this thread isn't on 1st page?
Do people take too seriously?
Cuz this has been done many, many, many times and it just gets old! People just get pissed at each other and say the same things over and over. We know paragons have their own
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Posté 07 février 2011 - 09:18
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TS2Aggie wrote...
I am almost primarily a renegade player and even I find renegade players that whine about being "deprived" of content in ME2 due to their own choices to be moronic. *I* made the choice to kill [character], so *I* have to live with the fact that I won't see them in ME2. Suck it up and deal with it, people.
The only issue I really have is when I see paragon players demanding that renegade players be actively punished for their choices. Not just deprived of seeing characters that they've killed (or someone related to them in some way), but actively punished. That just irks me because, hey, why do you care what happens in a renegade playthrough since you presumably won't be playing it?
The same goes double for renegades. It really bothers me to see people demanding that paragon players be actively 'punished' for their idealistic decisions. Come on, people. Why does anyone need to be punished at all? Every decision in the games has a valid point for both sides so can't we all just agree to let everyone else make their own decisions and live with the future consequences without having to demand for the other side to be treated like crap because they didn't play the way you do?
This. It's just b******** because someone plays differently and its annoying.
<_<
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Posté 07 février 2011 - 10:59
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James2912 wrote...
Mesina2 wrote...
Why this thread isn't on 1st page?
Do people take too seriously?
Cuz this has been done many, many, many times and it just gets old! People just get pissed at each other and say the same things over and over. We know paragons have their ownstupidunique view and the renegades areevilruthless. Thats why its best to be a paragade!
No, it's best to be all of it.
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Posté 07 février 2011 - 11:07
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Mesina2 wrote...
James2912 wrote...
Mesina2 wrote...
Why this thread isn't on 1st page?
Do people take too seriously?
Cuz this has been done many, many, many times and it just gets old! People just get pissed at each other and say the same things over and over. We know paragons have their ownstupidunique view and the renegades areevilruthless. Thats why its best to be a paragade!
No, it's best to be all of it.
Touche!
Very true!
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 12:16
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TS2Aggie wrote...
I am almost primarily a renegade player and even I find renegade players that whine about being "deprived" of content in ME2 due to their own choices to be moronic. *I* made the choice to kill [character], so *I* have to live with the fact that I won't see them in ME2. Suck it up and deal with it, people.
The only issue I really have is when I see paragon players demanding that renegade players be actively punished for their choices. Not just deprived of seeing characters that they've killed (or someone related to them in some way), but actively punished. That just irks me because, hey, why do you care what happens in a renegade playthrough since you presumably won't be playing it?
The same goes double for renegades. It really bothers me to see people demanding that paragon players be actively 'punished' for their idealistic decisions. Come on, people. Why does anyone need to be punished at all? Every decision in the games has a valid point for both sides so can't we all just agree to let everyone else make their own decisions and live with the future consequences without having to demand for the other side to be treated like crap because they didn't play the way you do?
Thirded. Very much this.
Really don't get the theory that Bioware is secretly supporting one alignment over the other, what would be the point?
Renegades are very likely to be rewarded (alongside Paragons in their respective alternate universes) in ME3, not to mention that Collector Base storyline moving forward.
#92
Posté 08 février 2011 - 12:32
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Some misconceptions about Renegades (and I'm not even a Renegade):
-They want dead characters to return
They almost whole-heartedly do not, they just wouldn't mind seeing some kind of gameplay choice consequence instead literally "nothing." Take Elder Scrolls or Fable... heck even Red Dead Redemption. In those games, if you did evil, you attracted a different kind of following and reputation. You also attracted evil/shady companions and acquaintances. That element is non-existent in Mass Effect.
-They hate Paragons
They don't, but they do have a point in that the Paragon choices never seem to end badly. Jack Bauer would never make it in the Mass Effect universe and would never be efficiently right. The key to the best victories has always been blue (granted that could always change in Mass Effect 3... but it seems ultimately unlikely).
-Renegade options are always Negative and their response is always "No."
They're not always negative, but they are always aggressive. They can also say "yes" to doing things like dispencing justice. Get the right type of Renegade quest available and they'd be the ones to do it over Paragons... it can be done (they just haven't done it).
-Renegades have all the nice lines
I disagree with that... even though it's mostly true.
ex) "I outta knock you the h*** out" is a Paragon line.
ex2) "I'll stop the Reapers... but I won't sacrifice the soul of our species to do it... Remember That..." is also essentially a Paragon line (more neutral but still... not Renegade).
-They want dead characters to return
They almost whole-heartedly do not, they just wouldn't mind seeing some kind of gameplay choice consequence instead literally "nothing." Take Elder Scrolls or Fable... heck even Red Dead Redemption. In those games, if you did evil, you attracted a different kind of following and reputation. You also attracted evil/shady companions and acquaintances. That element is non-existent in Mass Effect.
-They hate Paragons
They don't, but they do have a point in that the Paragon choices never seem to end badly. Jack Bauer would never make it in the Mass Effect universe and would never be efficiently right. The key to the best victories has always been blue (granted that could always change in Mass Effect 3... but it seems ultimately unlikely).
-Renegade options are always Negative and their response is always "No."
They're not always negative, but they are always aggressive. They can also say "yes" to doing things like dispencing justice. Get the right type of Renegade quest available and they'd be the ones to do it over Paragons... it can be done (they just haven't done it).
-Renegades have all the nice lines
I disagree with that... even though it's mostly true.
ex) "I outta knock you the h*** out" is a Paragon line.
ex2) "I'll stop the Reapers... but I won't sacrifice the soul of our species to do it... Remember That..." is also essentially a Paragon line (more neutral but still... not Renegade).
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 12:33
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^Wrong I got that line after saving the base.
That line has less to do with Paragon/Renegade and more to do with how friendly/unfriendly you are with TIM.
That line has less to do with Paragon/Renegade and more to do with how friendly/unfriendly you are with TIM.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 février 2011 - 12:34 .
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 12:35
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They hate Paragons
Some do. I've seen them.
Bauer would never make it in the Mass Effect universe and would never be right.
He's a ****bag; why would you ever want him to be right?
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 12:35
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Ryzaki wrote...
^Wrong I got that line after saving the base.
That line has less to do with Paragon/Renegade and more to do with how friendly/unfriendly you are with TIM.
Saving the Base is a renegade choice, but that line comes after a Paragon response. The Renegade option doesn't care about other people, only the mission.
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 12:36
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+1Aigyl wrote...
TS2Aggie wrote...
I am almost primarily a renegade player and even I find renegade players that whine about being "deprived" of content in ME2 due to their own choices to be moronic. *I* made the choice to kill [character], so *I* have to live with the fact that I won't see them in ME2. Suck it up and deal with it, people.
The only issue I really have is when I see paragon players demanding that renegade players be actively punished for their choices. Not just deprived of seeing characters that they've killed (or someone related to them in some way), but actively punished. That just irks me because, hey, why do you care what happens in a renegade playthrough since you presumably won't be playing it?
The same goes double for renegades. It really bothers me to see people demanding that paragon players be actively 'punished' for their idealistic decisions. Come on, people. Why does anyone need to be punished at all? Every decision in the games has a valid point for both sides so can't we all just agree to let everyone else make their own decisions and live with the future consequences without having to demand for the other side to be treated like crap because they didn't play the way you do?
Thirded. Very much this.
Really don't get the theory that Bioware is secretly supporting one alignment over the other, what would be the point?
Renegades are very likely to be rewarded (alongside Paragons in their respective alternate universes) in ME3, not to mention that Collector Base storyline moving forward.
Start a gag thread, and people honestly and seriously discuss the issue at hand, with minimal trolling!
I LOVE IT!
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 12:40
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Xilizhra wrote...
Some do. I've seen them.They hate Paragons
He's a ****bag; why would you ever want him to be right?Bauer would never make it in the Mass Effect universe and would never be right.
Just in general, Renegades don't hate Paragons, but you're right, some do. Same for Paragons hating Renegades.
Regarding Jack Bauer, you'd never want things to come to that, but looking at it from that seriies' perspective, some of the people he went up against would not have lost if he didn't do what he did (even though it was extreme and intollerable as any sort of protocol).
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 12:43
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This thread made me smile. Not quite laugh out loud, but close. The RustMonster approves.
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 01:14
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AdmiralCheez wrote...
+1
Start a gag thread, and people honestly and seriously discuss the issue at hand, with minimal trolling!
I LOVE IT!
Your humour exists because we allow it, and it will end, because of the random flow of conversation.
