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Night Prowler76 wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

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I'm so glad Bioware gets to do exactly what they want with their franchise, but I find it an odd curiosity that they'd chose to run it into the ground. While it's pretty integral to their beliefs of telling a story, it just seems to me that they don't want the series to sell. Fine by me, I'll see how the demo plays.

"run into the ground" is a very subjective opinion and one not everyone shares.


Not on this website, but pretty much every other gaming forum, this is the consensus, there is way more negativity for the changes than there is for people praising it, people are laughing at how bad the game looks, hopefully there will be some redemption for DA3, if there is one.



*More faceplams*


Hey, sorry you are living in a cocoon, but Im on many sites, and this is the attitude, you are in luck tho, BioWare has the same attitude as you, dismiss any negativity and it will go away, maybe you can get a job with them bro:)



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Saibh wrote...

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Not on this website, but pretty much every other gaming forum, this is the consensus, there is way more negativity for the changes than there is for people praising it, people are laughing at how bad the game looks, hopefully there will be some redemption for DA3, if there is one.


Right, I'm sure you can prove that.

Here, let me prove my point: You see the poll on this website?

Dragon Age 2 Will Be ...[*]Amazing! (67%, 3,810 Votes)[*]Don't know yet (18%, 1,028 Votes)[*]A decent game (8%, 479 Votes)[*]"§$%&! (4%, 228 Votes)[*]Awful (3%, 168 Votes)[/list]
Total Voters: 5,713

This website isn't "We love Dragon Age II so much!". It's for all fans. So, I'm not really seeing a consensus with your theory.

[*]1 website poll= hard facts based on millions of gamers opinions.

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Aww the poor lil babies cant stand that alot of fans done like how DA2 looks, so sad. If the best retort you have is a "face palm" gif, than I feel sad for you friend.


OK, I'll explain myself.  My point is that what you fail to realize is that your sentiment is not the overwhelming majority.  Of course I realize that a lot of people don't like how the game looks, I've ben on the forums.

My main point was that your post sounded faceplam worthy.

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I grow tired of arguing with you guys, please go back to badmouthing the OP for having a differing opinion than your own, its been fun tho lmao

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http://www.masseffec...home/accolades/ ...see all those awards?...enough said...Bioware is a company first and formost. They need to make money...and clearly...Mass Effect makes money, a lot of it.

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I grow tired of arguing with you guys, please go back to badmouthing the OP for having a differing opinion than your own, its been fun tho lmao


I love how you fail to see that you are doing the same thing to those who disagree with you, but Ok bye.

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Night Prowler76 wrote...

I grow tired of arguing with you guys, please go back to badmouthing the OP for having a differing opinion than your own, its been fun tho lmao


You can have wrong opinions, you know. No matter what your teacher tells you.

In any case, don't bother coming to forums if you're going to spout nonsense you can't back up.

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JrayM16 wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Aww the poor lil babies cant stand that alot of fans done like how DA2 looks, so sad. If the best retort you have is a "face palm" gif, than I feel sad for you friend.


OK, I'll explain myself.  My point is that what you fail to realize is that your sentiment is not the overwhelming majority.  Of course I realize that a lot of people don't like how the game looks, I've ben on the forums.

My main point was that your post sounded faceplam worthy.


Honestly, on the websites that I am on, most people dont think its going to be good, maybe I should check out the larger ones, but mostly what I have seen has not been favourable, maybe you guys are right and this will the best dam game out there.

There is no reason to go after the OP was the only point I was making, he is a fan like everyone else on here, some fans are more accepting of change, and some are not.

I will not be posting in this thread anymore, the game is dont, no ****ing will change the content of it.

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Night Prowler76 wrote...

1 website poll= hard facts based on millions of gamers opinions.


...You, uh, might want to make that a "does not equal". Like:

Nightprowler's anecdotes on the opinion of this game =/= the actual opinion on this game

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I had the same problem with Dues Ex sequel as the OP does with Dragon age. haha

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lol and leaves while still refuseing to site his "overwhelming sources".

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Night Prowler76 wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Aww the poor lil babies cant stand that alot of fans done like how DA2 looks, so sad. If the best retort you have is a "face palm" gif, than I feel sad for you friend.


OK, I'll explain myself.  My point is that what you fail to realize is that your sentiment is not the overwhelming majority.  Of course I realize that a lot of people don't like how the game looks, I've ben on the forums.

My main point was that your post sounded faceplam worthy.


Honestly, on the websites that I am on, most people dont think its going to be good, maybe I should check out the larger ones, but mostly what I have seen has not been favourable, maybe you guys are right and this will the best dam game out there.

There is no reason to go after the OP was the only point I was making, he is a fan like everyone else on here, some fans are more accepting of change, and some are not.

I will not be posting in this thread anymore, the game is dont, no ****ing will change the content of it.


The fact that people are going after the OP shows that there are a fair number of people who think it'll be good.  Go to any topic where someone says DA2's either going to be good or bad and you'll see that largely opinion is split. 

And ammazingly, some people like some things about and dislike other things.  I know, look at this brave new world where people can view games as things other than total successes and total failures.

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You take out elf and dwarf creation choices. (The most prominent aspect of Origins.) Why? Why, why, why, why, why, why? Why infinity? Why? Instead of giving us more options, you took them out entirely. Makes for terrific roleplaying.

You change the art style completely so there is no consistency between the games anymore. Dragon Age 2 doesn't even look like a part of Thedas anymore. And before you tell me it's not Ferelden, I will reply that I severely doubt the landscape and architecture would change so dramatically moving a little north of Ferelden. 

Varric. I don't understand the love for this character. He doesn't look anything like the dwarves we see in DA:O. He looks like a short stumpy human. His face is not dwarf-like in the least.

No aerial tactical camera. This tells me the game doesn't require much tactical management of your party members and will be more or less like a hack and slash game.

Dialogue Wheel; Paraphrasing. Taking the fun out of having to read through the choices, figure out the tones of each line and picking an option. Now, you have pretty colors telling you what's bad and what's good, your only two options. 

Approval. Either they love you or dislike you slightly. Can't be evil anymore.

Edit: One more point. You're not in charge of your character's destiny anymore. You're just watching the already established story of some random human unfold while your role is to fill it in with colorful dialogue.

There's more, but I'm tired of typing and each point is making me exponentially angrier. 

Why all these changes? You had a great thing going with DAO. Couldn't we just have more of that? With each new piece of news that informed me about features being stripped away or becoming less complex in Dragon Age 2, I became progessively less interested. It seems like you've just moved backwards. 








So you wanted the sequel to be more direct from DAO with little to none changes implemented? I disagree & carry on this quote, "It would of been very easy for us after origins to sit on our lore and just do whatever that was successful enough not try anything new, but I think the thing BioWare does that's great is their  interest in evolution."- David GaiderB)

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Night Prowler76 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Not on this website, but pretty much every other gaming forum, this is the consensus, there is way more negativity for the changes than there is for people praising it, people are laughing at how bad the game looks, hopefully there will be some redemption for DA3, if there is one.


Right, I'm sure you can prove that.

Here, let me prove my point: You see the poll on this website?

Dragon Age 2 Will Be ...[*]Amazing! (67%, 3,810 Votes)[*]Don't know yet (18%, 1,028 Votes)[*]A decent game (8%, 479 Votes)[*]"§$%&! (4%, 228 Votes)[*]Awful (3%, 168 Votes)[/list]
Total Voters: 5,713

This website isn't "We love Dragon Age II so much!". It's for all fans. So, I'm not really seeing a consensus with your theory.

1 website poll= hard facts based on millions of gamers opinions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Atleast they have evidence where's yours other than "I have been to many sites and this is what I've seen"? Yes because your words == facts. Ooooh Wait I remember this you are the type of person that didn't like COD MW2 removing servers from being dedicated and said that the game would fail. What happened there? Even with the petition of 200k the game still outsold the last one. 

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I had the same problem with Dues Ex sequel as the OP does with Dragon age. haha

In all fairness...Deus Ex is considered one of the greatest games ever made...cuz it won "Best PC game ever made" lol

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Atleast they have evidence where's yours other than "I have been to many sites and this is what I've seen"? Yes because your words == facts. Ooooh Wait I remember this you are the type of person that didn't like COD MW2 removing servers from being dedicated and said that the game would fail. What happened there? Even with the petition of 200k the game still outsold the last one.




hardcore forum ownage.

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Darth Death wrote...
So you wanted the sequel to be more direct from DAO with little to none changes implemented? I disagree & carry on this quote, "It would of been very easy for us after origins to sit on our lore and just do whatever that was successful enough not try anything new, but I think the thing BioWare does that's great is their  interest in evolution."- David GaiderB)

QFT

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Vicious wrote...


Atleast they have evidence where's yours other than "I have been to many sites and this is what I've seen"? Yes because your words == facts. Ooooh Wait I remember this you are the type of person that didn't like COD MW2 removing servers from being dedicated and said that the game would fail. What happened there? Even with the petition of 200k the game still outsold the last one.


hardcore forum ownage.



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I agree with you on two points, but disagree with all the rest:

No aerial tactical camera. This tells me the game doesn't require much
tactical management of your party members and will be more or less like a
hack and slash game.


Can't argue with that one. The lack of an aerial tactical camera strips away the ability to be strategic.

Approval. Either they love you or dislike you slightly. Can't be evil anymore.


Indeed, another great feature stripped away. In Origins, they'll leave you if they are angry enough. But, it seems that BioWare is taking a page from the ME playbook and making it impossible for characters to leave you if you commit evil acts and such.

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I'll site one, read the posts and it does not have a poll but most concerns are there, before the argument can be made the site has a gigantic amount of information in the original post so they are not uninformed.

This is not representative of the majority but it is an actual community posting opinions and first impressions upon each new reveal of information, I don't expect you to read all 200+ pages.



http://forums.someth...40&pagenumber=1

It's simply a statement that there are infact negative communities out there.
A lot of the complaints are now null, but understand that the complaints are natural and that first impressions are important. :mellow:

Edit: Disclaimer skip the first few pages for the first big reveal(gameplay).

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Falls Edge wrote...

I'll site one, read the posts and it does not have a poll but most concerns are there, before the argument can be made the site has a gigantic amount of information in the original post so they are not uninformed.

This is not representative of the majority but it is an actual community posting opinions and first impressions upon each new reveal of information, I don't expect you to read all 200+ pages.



http://forums.someth...40&pagenumber=1

It's simply a statement that there are infact negative communities out there.
A lot of the complaints are now null, but understand that the complaints are natural and that first impressions are important. :mellow:


Judgin by what I've seen in waht you've posted and here, most communities are actually split.

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I agree with you on two points, but disagree with all the rest:

No aerial tactical camera. This tells me the game doesn't require much
tactical management of your party members and will be more or less like a
hack and slash game.


Can't argue with that one. The lack of an aerial tactical camera strips away the ability to be strategic.


Approval. Either they love you or dislike you slightly. Can't be evil anymore.


Indeed, another great feature stripped away. In Origins, they'll leave you if they are angry enough. But, it seems that BioWare is taking a page from the ME playbook and making it impossible for characters to leave you if you commit evil acts and such.


They shown combat footage...the tactial camera is still there...

there was never really "evil" options...except destroying the Urn...which really is the only evil choice...This system is more akin to real life...you don't have to kiss all the companions asses to keep them around. YOu could be a selfish douche...but that does not = evil.

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XX55XX wrote...

I agree with you on two points, but disagree with all the rest:

No aerial tactical camera. This tells me the game doesn't require much
tactical management of your party members and will be more or less like a
hack and slash game.


Can't argue with that one. The lack of an aerial tactical camera strips away the ability to be strategic.

Approval. Either they love you or dislike you slightly. Can't be evil anymore.


Indeed, another great feature stripped away. In Origins, they'll leave you if they are angry enough. But, it seems that BioWare is taking a page from the ME playbook and making it impossible for characters to leave you if you commit evil acts and such.

there is an aerial tactical camera and they can still leave if you do something extreme (like disturbing the ashes in origins etc..)

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XX55XX wrote...

I agree with you on two points, but disagree with all the rest:

No aerial tactical camera. This tells me the game doesn't require much
tactical management of your party members and will be more or less like a
hack and slash game.


Can't argue with that one. The lack of an aerial tactical camera strips away the ability to be strategic.


Approval. Either they love you or dislike you slightly. Can't be evil anymore.


Indeed, another great feature stripped away. In Origins, they'll leave you if they are angry enough. But, it seems that BioWare is taking a page from the ME playbook and making it impossible for characters to leave you if you commit evil acts and such.


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Looks pretty overhead to me...

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The lack of an aerial tactical camera strips away the ability to be strategic.




Umm no. I never used that camera angle because it make it to easy to make up red rover strategies and I used pause and play and strategy all the time. Not quite sure why you think that a camera angle determines if you can use strategy or not.