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[Riona45]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Ah, everyone that quoted me just didn't get the message. If you read it to the end then you might realize you only succeeded in bumping this thread. Thanks for playing!

OK, so you're trolling.  I guess I will report you (and this thread) then.

[Morning808]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

I would love to see the real statistics on this supposed percentage of players who mostly only played human characters. I think it was a made up Bioware statistic just so they wouldn't have to make more than one race and incorporate the new love of voiced-protagonists. I can make up my own statistics too, let me just jump in Photoshop, Illustrator or some crap Office program and make a pie chart really fast...nah, nothing will come of it!

I love being a Elf but I think it would be weird forcing people to play a race that they would not like, Humans is a safe race to force people to play since we are humans and all games usally force you to play a human.

If I was forced to play a dwarf I wouldn't be that thrilled...

[Rockworm503]

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

I would think it was a just a dissenting opinion if it weren't for the blatant stab at Varric fans.

[TJPags]

DTKT wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

I would love to see the real statistics on this supposed percentage of players who mostly only played human characters. I think it was a made up Bioware statistic just so they wouldn't have to make more than one race and incorporate the new love of voice protagonists. I can make up my own statistics too, let me just jump in Photoshop, Illustrator or some crap Office program and make a pie chart really fast...nah, nothing will come of it!

You make a good case for Bioware never showing you (and by extension, all of us fans) any statistics--if you don't like what they show, you'll just assume they are lying.

If you assume bad faith on their part, why should they show you anything?  It'd be a losing game for them.

They did show stats for ME2:

http://kotaku.com/56...s-soldier-dudes

I personally don't care about the human only issue - I usually play humans, anyway - but, you know that's for Mass Effect.  It shouldn't have any bearing on DA.

[TheRevanchist]

The forums were exactly the same before DAO came out "I hate this I think this sucks I think that companion is lame and I dont know why people like them." etc etc....game came out...everyone shut up....DA2 is announced...all the complaining starts again...then everyone accepts the idea and stops complaining...all things will be fine until DA3 is announced and people will start complaining again...its the cycle that never ends.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

You Sir, are a step ahead of the rest, have a gold star!

Just because people have differing opinions doesn't mean they are "trolls." I'm sure someone has already done a study or two about mob mentality amongst fanbases, but one on game developer forums might be amusing.

[TJPags]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

I would think it was a just a dissenting opinion if it weren't for the blatant stab at Varric fans.

I don't think it was a stab at them, so much.  I think the intent was to point out that Varric doesn't look like what a dwarf should, to the TC.

Personally, I agree he looks less-dwarf-like (and no, I can't explain it any better than that) although it doesn't bother me much.

[Morning808]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

I would think it was a just a dissenting opinion if it weren't for the blatant stab at Varric fans.

I wasn't attacking the fan base I was just stateing that I don't know how people can love a character that no one really knows right now since the game is not out! I wasn't bashing them I just don't understand how

[AlanC9]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Ah, everyone that quoted me just didn't get the message. If you read it to the end then you might realize you only succeeded in bumping this thread. Thanks for playing!

Hey, I'll bump threads like this any time. If I didn't enjoy them I wouldn't read them.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

I don't think it was a stab at Varric fans really, everyone just calm down please. It's just an opinion. Varric doesn't look much like a dwarf, but the character actually seems like one of the more interesting offerings in DA 2 to me so far.

[PrinceOfFallout13]

TJPags wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

I would think it was a just a dissenting opinion if it weren't for the blatant stab at Varric fans.

I don't think it was a stab at them, so much.  I think the intent was to point out that Varric doesn't look like what a dwarf should, to the TC.

Personally, I agree he looks less-dwarf-like (and no, I can't explain it any better than that) although it doesn't bother me much.

the problem here is people using varrick as the new look for the dwarfs when in fact its explained why hes different compared to the rest just because fenris and varrick differentiate from their race doesnt mean all of them changed

[Rockworm503]

Morning808 wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

I would think it was a just a dissenting opinion if it weren't for the blatant stab at Varric fans.

I wasn't attacking the fan base I was just stateing that I don't know how people can love a character that no one really knows right now since the game is not out! I wasn't bashing them I just don't understand how

Not you  I'm refferring to the Op.... The one that made a bunch of negative comments and hasn't been seen since.
Hey maybe I'm wrong and their not a troll but something tells me they are.

[TJPags]

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

I would think it was a just a dissenting opinion if it weren't for the blatant stab at Varric fans.

I don't think it was a stab at them, so much.  I think the intent was to point out that Varric doesn't look like what a dwarf should, to the TC.

Personally, I agree he looks less-dwarf-like (and no, I can't explain it any better than that) although it doesn't bother me much.

the problem here is people using varrick as the new look for the dwarfs when in fact its explained why hes different compared to the rest just because fenris and varrick differentiate from their race doesnt mean all of them changed

I haven't seen this explanation - if you would give me an idea where to look, or link me, I'd appreciate it.

Also, he is the only dwarf we've seen, I think.  So we kind of have to use him as a reference for what dwarves look like, don't we?

[PrinceOfFallout13]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Morning808 wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

I would think it was a just a dissenting opinion if it weren't for the blatant stab at Varric fans.

I wasn't attacking the fan base I was just stateing that I don't know how people can love a character that no one really knows right now since the game is not out! I wasn't bashing them I just don't understand how

Not you  I'm refferring to the Op.... The one that made a bunch of negative comments and hasn't been seen since.
Hey maybe I'm wrong and their not a troll but something tells me they are.

trolls never respond to their own thread i learned that in gamefaqs

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

AlanC9 wrote...

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Ah, everyone that quoted me just didn't get the message. If you read it to the end then you might realize you only succeeded in bumping this thread. Thanks for playing!

Hey, I'll bump threads like this any time. If I didn't enjoy them I wouldn't read them.

 Watch out AlanC9, McGruff's-Junior-Internet-Forum-Crime-Fighting-Team might report you for trolling too!
 (when you aren't doing any such thing)

But, back on topic...

I'm guessing Bioware is inspired by non-sequential Hollywood titles like the Rambo movies. None of the titles of those movies follow each other correctly.

Modifié par Ryllen Laerth Kriel, 06 février 2011 - 06:35 .

[Brockololly]

Rockworm503 wrote...
Not you  I'm refferring to the Op.... The one that made a bunch of negative comments and hasn't been seen since.
Hey maybe I'm wrong and their not a troll but something tells me they are.

Because someone who voices concerns and displeasure at the seeming direction of a game is a troll? Gotcha.

[Cespar]

namedforthemoon wrote...

It's their game. They can do what they want with it.

Varric is a surface-born dwarf. He's adapted to the human environment that he grew up in. Mary Kirby has given us all sorts of interesting information about why he's different.

oooo do you have a link for that i was just thinking about that!!!?

[PrinceOfFallout13]

TJPags wrote...

I haven't seen this explanation - if you would give me an idea where to look, or link me, I'd appreciate it.

Also, he is the only dwarf we've seen, I think. So we kind of have to use him as a reference for what dwarves look like, don't we?

maria caliban knows more about this than me since she knows what mary kirby?said about varrick since she was the one who wrote him

Modifié par PrinceOfFallout13, 06 février 2011 - 06:33 .

[Morning808]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Morning808 wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Falls Edge wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

My troll sense is going off here.

You'd unfortunately be wrong, though the heartland of the fanbase is not exactly the best place to post dissenting opinion.

I would think it was a just a dissenting opinion if it weren't for the blatant stab at Varric fans.

I wasn't attacking the fan base I was just stateing that I don't know how people can love a character that no one really knows right now since the game is not out! I wasn't bashing them I just don't understand how

Not you  I'm refferring to the Op.... The one that made a bunch of negative comments and hasn't been seen since.
Hey maybe I'm wrong and their not a troll but something tells me they are.

Oh ok sorry your post was right under mine and since I was talking about Varric I thought you might of added me

[PrinceOfFallout13]

Brockololly wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
Not you  I'm refferring to the Op.... The one that made a bunch of negative comments and hasn't been seen since.
Hey maybe I'm wrong and their not a troll but something tells me they are.

Because someone who voices concerns and displeasure at the seeming direction of a game is a troll? Gotcha.

no but when you make a topic like this and dont respond at all especially with links and explanations it can be considered trolling dont you think?

Modifié par PrinceOfFallout13, 06 février 2011 - 06:35 .

[Rockworm503]

I'll stop calling troll here. Maybe the Op doesn't have time to reply yet. The threads only been out for an hour so I'll give it time but wait 24 hours and if they pop back with more negativity and nothing to back it up then we'll know.

[Morning808]

Or she might of just felt like voicing her displeaser and be done with it

[mr_nameless]

[/quote]1.base on the porcentage of players who played dwarves and elfs, humans dominated by more than 70% so it was not and never was the prominent aspect of origins

ROFL. Based on the percentage of people who plays RPGs, Boardgames, use film, drinks wine, paint..... we shoulnd't even have all these!!!!  Most people don't even know LOTR was a book before the movies. Frack percentages and mainstream. 

[Brockololly]

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...
nobut when you make a topic like this and dont respond at allespecially with links and explanations it can be considered trolling dont you think?

The forum exists for people to give their opinion. Most of the things the OP said are fairly common criticisms of the game when you go out of  the forums here and *gasp* even on the forums here.

I don't think its fair to lambast someone a "troll" simply because they post a topic and don't immediately respond in kind to every reply. Not everyone is going to post links and a damn bibliography with footnotes and citations on a  forum post.

The OP has an opinion on DA2. You have an opinion on DA2. As do I and everyone else  here. Lets not resort to name calling simply because someone has a different viewpoint.

Modifié par Brockololly, 06 février 2011 - 06:40 .

[PrinceOfFallout13]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I'll stop calling troll here. Maybe the Op doesn't have time to reply yet. The threads only been out for an hour so I'll give it time but wait 24 hours and if they pop back with more negativity and nothing to back it up then we'll know.

she/he asked questions so that means she/he wanted answers we gave it to him/her it doesnt take a day to refresh a page