General User wrote...
To my knowledge, none of the former quarian worlds have any quarians living on them now.
The UN would like to have a word with you.wulf3n wrote...
General User wrote...
To my knowledge, none of the former quarian worlds have any quarians living on them now.
Genocide isn't about a race being on their home planet, its about them being extinct. Since the quarians had enough numbers to sustain a viable population at the end of the morning war, the geth obviously didn't make them extinct, so they didn't commit genocide.
Modifié par Phaedon, 06 février 2011 - 08:03 .
wulf3n wrote...
General User wrote...
To my knowledge, none of the former quarian worlds have any quarians living on them now.
Genocide isn't about a race being on their home planet, its about them being extinct. Since the quarians had enough numbers to sustain a viable population at the end of the morning war, the geth obviously didn't make them extinct, so they didn't commit genocide.
Modifié par James2912, 06 février 2011 - 08:23 .
Phaedon wrote...
The UN would like to have a word with you.wulf3n wrote...
General User wrote...
To my knowledge, none of the former quarian worlds have any quarians living on them now.
Genocide isn't about a race being on their home planet, its about them being extinct. Since the quarians had enough numbers to sustain a viable population at the end of the morning war, the geth obviously didn't make them extinct, so they didn't commit genocide.
"any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, anational, ethnical, racial or religious group,"
Modifié par General User, 06 février 2011 - 08:09 .
"killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."BobSmith101 wrote...
What are the following acts?
James2912 wrote...
Genocide is the mass killing of a people not their extinction.
Modifié par wulf3n, 06 février 2011 - 08:12 .
wulf3n wrote...
Phaedon wrote...
The UN would like to have a word with you.
"any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, anational, ethnical, racial or religious group,"
Im not saying they didn't "attempt" genocide, they just didn't commit genocide.
"any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, anational, ethnical, racial or religious group,"
"any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy
intent
wulf3n wrote...
But you still have to argue intent. With only 2 known quarian planets, and no information about the battles, and no information about the geths consciousness at the time, it's impossible to tell.
I doubt all of them were soldiers.the drastic population decline of the Quarians (from billions prebellum to 17 million postbellum)
Phaedon wrote...
I doubt all of them were soldiers.
Phaedon wrote...
"killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."BobSmith101 wrote...
What are the following acts?
Mecha Tengu wrote...
who cares
it's just Quarians anyway
No, you can't accidentally kill billions of civvies. And again, if the geth could not tell soldier from civvie, then they would be simple robots, with no sentience. Which is wrong.wulf3n wrote...
Yes, but civilians do die in war. Then you've got to consider if the early geth even understood the concept of civilian. There are no geth civilians, so maybe geth believed the same to be true of quarians. Same goes for killing. Destroying a geth body doesn't kill the geth, it just gets transferred, maybe the geth thought the same was happening for the quarians.
StarGateGod wrote...
no, they didnt it was war, and the quaians kept fighting to the very end. it would of been differnet if they had given up and the geth continued to kill them. Its like the japanese it WW2, if we hadnt droped the nule on them we would have killed everyone on that island becuase they would have fought to the last m,an woman and child
Modifié par James2912, 06 février 2011 - 09:01 .
StarGateGod wrote...
no, they didnt it was war, and the quaians kept fighting to the very end. it would of been differnet if they had given up and the geth continued to kill them. Its like the japanese it WW2, if we hadnt droped the nule on them we would have killed everyone on that island becuase they would have fought to the last m,an woman and child
Modifié par bookwurmneo, 06 février 2011 - 09:44 .
bookwurmneo wrote...
StarGateGod wrote...
no, they didnt it was war, and the quaians kept fighting to the very end. it would of been differnet if they had given up and the geth continued to kill them. Its like the japanese it WW2, if we hadnt droped the nule on them we would have killed everyone on that island becuase they would have fought to the last m,an woman and child
First of in regards to the Atomic attacks on Japan during WW2, The use of nuclear weapons was contested at time of the attacks and is still up for debate.
More Importantly in terms of this debate we don't know if the quarians would have fought to last man and evidently they didn't as a large number of them fled. We don't know the basic tactics or goals of the geth or quarians of that time, the geth could have simply decided to destroying the quarians was the most efficient way to save themselves.
Finally, The morality of the geths actions doesn't decide whether or not it was genocide; what decides genocide is whther or not the geth went thru the process of systematically destroying the quarians. Say if earth was invaded by a race of cannabilistic aliens and theonly way to survive is to completely destroy their species. While the act is necessary it sill would be genocide.
General User wrote...
Whatever their motivations, following the Morning War, the geth either wiped out the quarian survivors not on the Flotilla, or allowed them to die when they could have prevented it. Either way constitutes genocide.
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