..so.. why do folks keep being just obstinately obtuse for... 13 pages..? If you don't want to discuss it, then don't.
..in any case.. I agree and disagree. Mass Effect 1&2 is /wrongly/ rated by the vast majority of people who talk about it, imo. It's just not possible to escape that many who like the game only like it because it gives you an illusion of control. So they really like the game just because it's a bastard simulator, basically..
But on the side, you always have this small stream of people who try to justify the entire game as extremely well written - it's not. Either as a "pure computer game", or as a literary work. It has some extremely well written parts that do exploit the medium in the best possible way. Other parts are terrible, terrible.. in a way that the original Battlestar Galactica could only hope to aspire to at the worst parts, for example..
Doesn't mean it's a bad game, or that being critical means you hate the game.. far from it. What it means is that:
1. some of us want to talk about games as if they were something more than game-mechanics with make-up. And Bioware, with Mass Effect, does something interesting here. ..of course, so did Obsidian with Kotor2 and Alpha Protocol, for example. Or Quantic Dream with Heavy Rain.. or Square with Xenogears, etc... - but they didn't have the backing of the "other" fans at the time, so...
and
2. That there's a bunch of fans of this series that have never read a book, don't ever want to read one, and that appreciate the game for something completely different.
The thing is.. I doubt that everyone who liked the game only for the shooter parts, or who thought the entire narrative was AERWWWEESOONNNE!! ..I doubt they make up a very large part of the audience that buy the games. So to somehow argue that "the game is already good enough", or "more complex writing doesn't appeal to anyone" and so on.. is just not a very good point.
In fact, it seems like a very ungrateful argument, and one that's explicitly unsupportive of the developer.. A strange way to insist that the game shouldn't be made more carefully anyway, because everyone is too stupid or uninterested to really care about narratives.
That's silly.. even if you don't enjoy discussing narrative devices for laughs, you still can respond in different ways to different methods of story-telling.. so why just insist that "it's not there, it's popcorn and silly, and that's what's great about it!".. you know... lots of fluffy series for TV made that have serious story-telling, even if it's not aimed at a target audience of zombies. And then we have, unsurprisingly, a quality script with very silly substance. Happens all the time..
What we have in Mass Effect, is very good substance wrapped in fluff. That's.. not as easy to pass by without comment, you see

..anyway.. ah.. feel free to read my review of ME1, by the way

just for laughs, if nothing else.
Linke
Modifié par nipsen, 10 février 2011 - 08:32 .