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[vader da slayer]

Keep (or rather canadates):
Miranda
Jack
Thane
Tali
Liara (hey she was a party member for part of it all >,>)/Samara (would prefer Liara though)
Garrus
Ashley/Kaidan
Legion (comon your own geth, also remember he doesn't need to go anywhere to do something with the geth)

kick (deffenitely not)
Jacob
Mordin (just don't like him for some reason)
Zaeed

possibilities
Wrex/Grunt (dependant on story, either one is a good pick for the krogan tm)
Kasumi (if the were to put a little more character into it then I'd probably say keep)

Dunno just feel like the definately not's just don't have that big of a purpose to the overall game (outside of mordin's tech saving you vs the swarm). Only reason I said Grunt/Wrex are possibilities is due to previous actions that you may or may not have taken. also it would be highly dependant on who you were able to save in the last mission of ME2 as to who would be available to you.

Modifié par vader da slayer, 07 février 2011 - 08:44 .

[Revan312]

Phaedon wrote...
*snip*

Again, that was my point, it will fall flat if nobody acknowledges what transpired, it will be a bunch of dolls acting as if everything is normal.. They'll be no emotional attachment, and for it to feel deeper than ****** on a sidewalk they'll need a TON of extra dialogue surrounding what happened.. Not sure how I can explain what I'm talking about any more clearly..

And I AM assuming they'll use the same model as ME2, gather new squadmates, get some cameos/emails from the surviving ones and be off, which is what I hated about ME2..

Modifié par Revan312, 07 février 2011 - 08:53 .

[aeetos21]

This is what's been confirmed/hinted by DEVs

1) Kaidan and Ashley will either have a) the same cameo or the same squadmate storyline in ME3
2) Liara is the only member of all the ME squads to survive. I'm pretty sure her role in ME3 will be unique no matter how BW plays this out.
3) ML is the second hardest character to kill in either game (I uploaded the chart from the thread here, sorry I couldn't find the thread) so its probably wishful thinking on my part but I don't see her going anywhere.
4) Its been heavily hinted in ME3 that if you "cheated" on your ME1 LI then there would be consequences (Ashley, Kaidan or Liara might not come with?)
5) BW is collecting data on player's chocies so that will likely factor in somehow (example: more people played the soldier class than all other classes combined). So given Tali's huge fanbase its likely she'll have something significant in ME3.

About all I can think of in regards to squadmate appearances in ME3.

[aeetos21]

Revan312 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...
*snip*

Again, that was my point, it will fall flat if nobody acknowledges what transpired, it will be a bunch of dolls acting as if everything is normal.. They'll be no emotional attachment, and for it to feel deeper than ****** on a sidewalk they'll need a TON of extra dialogue surrounding what happened.. Not sure how I can explain what I'm talking about any more clearly..

And I AM assuming they'll use the same model as ME2, gather new squadmates, get some cameos/emails from the surviving ones and be off, which is what I hated about ME2..

No I know what you're saying, its what most of the people on the site are getting at. I, respectfully, just don't agree with it.

Edit: apologies for the double post

Modifié par aeetos21, 07 février 2011 - 08:59 .

[Phaedon]

Revan312 wrote...
Again, that was my point, it will fall flat if nobody acknowledges what transpired, it will be a bunch of dolls acting as if everything is normal.. They'll be no emotional attachment, and for it to feel deeper than ****** on a sidewalk they'll need a TON of extra dialogue surrounding what happened.. Not sure how I can explain what I'm talking about any more clearly..

I find it unrealistic to expect Mordin to mourn for every each of your 10 deceased characters, while singing the soundtrack from Vaenia. Now, if you want Tali to admit that she feels bad/good, about Legion dying (and that ould apply to Miranda and Jack as well), then the only flags that would need to be set is one after each one of the LM conflicts, and the inevitable survival one. It's still not difficult/impossible.

And I AM assuming they'll use the same model as ME2, gather new squadmates, get some cameos/emails from the surviving ones and be off, which is what I hated about ME2.

ME2 had a reason for using this model, as this is after all the stereotypical second act model. ME3 has no excuse for using it. And it makes no sense too.

[CroGamer002]

Mesina2 wrote...

Some characters say that they will leave and those are:

Zaeed - he done his job and he will try to get Vido and becouse of Reapers try to took over Blue Suns or if you killed Vido just try to take over Blue Suns or if he isn't loyal he would just leave.

Very low possibility to stay but cameo and side quest very possible


Kasumi - she went in hiding if has greybox or just say goodbye and leave if you destroy greybox( she is still loyal if you destroy it)

Very low possibility to stay if she has greybox but cameo or even important quest very possible. Greybox destroyed low possibility to stay and cameo


Samara - went to seek injustice but promises to help in future( Paragon) or just not to kill Shep( Renegade) and/or try to find Morinth if you scared her away in loyalty mission

Very low possibility to stay. Might possible to recruite later and LI if you try romance with her in ME2. Cameo and side quest very possible


Morinth - she just leaves with no goodbye

Extremely low possibility to stay and cameo


Thane - he decides to retire and went back on Hanar homeworld since he will die long before Reapers will come

Low possibility to stay but very possible cameo. For side quest low possibility


Possible to leave:

Tali - got message that she is elected for admiral and say to Shep it would be better if she leaves so he/she can have guarantee Quarian help against Reapers

Got nothing on if she is unloyal and survive( and exiled)
High possibility to stay if not cameo and important side quest are must go!


Grunt - say to Shep that he should get back on Tuchanka to help clan Urdnot

Got nothing if he is unloyal and survive
High possibility to stay if not cameo and important side quest are must go!


Character that wouldn't make sense to leave if didn't die:

Garrus( infiltrator) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal
Legion( engineer) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal
Jacob( sentinel) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal
Miranda( sentinel) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal
Jack( adept) - no reason to leave loyal but unloyal questionable
Mordin( engineer and scientist, might not be selectable though) - no reason to leave loyal or unloyal



After that you gain two new squadmates in case that none of them didn't survive and later gain 4 more to have Soldier, Inflitrator, Vanguard, Adept, Sentinel and Engineer( for balance) or get them right away but with good explenation for plot.

[Tamahome560]

ME3 has a shorter dev cycle compared to ME2 yes ... but for ME2 they have reworked everything from graphics to combat to rpg elements. Everything was reworked for ME2. With ME3 I don't think that will be the case. The graphics and art are good but will probably get some tweaks here and there. Combat is solid so it will be the same with some slight changes. RPG elements ... well fans demanded improvement on those so I guess there will me some major works on them elements. The storyline was probably already set in stone years ago so there won't be much work on it.

What I'm trying to get at is that the devs don't have to rework everything anymore since they have a very solid foundation to build on from ME2 which means that they will have more time and resources to spend on choices and consequences. It is also the last game in the trilogy so they can go wild since there is no issues of continuity past ME3 as has been already stated in this thread and I'm sure that Bioware knows that making a story about making the most badass team in the galaxy a second time is the most redundant thing they could do for their last game in the trilogy since it would destroy the purpose of ME2 in terms of the overall plot.

Also making new squadmates from scratch would probably cost more than reusing old squad. Some of the old team members will leave for sure if they didn't die so that Bioware can introduce a few new recruits and possibly Virmire Survivor and/or Liara.

Modifié par Tamahome560, 07 février 2011 - 10:00 .

[FDrage]

Not sure ... as they have to factor in as well in regards to who dies in the suicide mission. They have to take account for that as well. So there probably will be some "generic" cameos (aka similar to how it worked with Kaidan/Ashley in ME2 ... albeit a bit longer .. hopefully). Not sure how that would work with squad members as they would need to have way more dialogue etc. then a cameo appearance and putting some much efford into characters that potentially have not survived.

I guess that's also were the game play data Bioware collected comes in as they probably can see who was most popular for taking on missions etc. and who was the most likeliest to die on the suicide mission (even if that had a great impact at all)

aeetos21 wrote...

Okay, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS ONCE

Can you repeat that please ... I didn't quite hear it.


Sorry couldn't resist ...

[Phaedon]

ME3 has a shorter dev cycle compared to ME2 yes

The development for ME3 started before ME2 was released.

[aeetos21]

FDrage wrote...

aeetos21 wrote...

Okay, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS ONCE

Can you repeat that please ... I didn't quite hear it.


Sorry couldn't resist ...

LMAO

[Null_]

Garrus/Legion/Tali are a MUST
Mordin or another salarian(shame most people have cpt. "hold the line" dead so he will be like wrex) would be nice.
Couldnt care less about the rest

Modifié par Null_, 07 février 2011 - 12:36 .

[naledgeborn]

Am I the only one that got the impression that Feron will join the team in ME3 in place of Liara? She is intel after all, she has no business getting shot at.

[Nozybidaj]

Revan312 wrote...
Terror, you and I both know that's most likely whats gonna happen.. sad but true.. I'm with ya on not wanting to be introduced to ANOTHER new set of people, but I'm gonna assume with the cluster **** that is any random ME2 end game save it will be just a bunch of cameos and new characters..

 Get ready for the emails..

I didn't really see the need to be forced to get a whole new crew and dispose of the old crew in the second part of the trilogy either, but it is what it is.

My guess is it will be one of 2 scenarios:

1 crew member from ME1, 1 crew member from ME2, rest of crew all new, everyone else cameo'ed.
Same as ME2, ME1 crew all cameo'ed, ME2 crew returns.

[AdmiralCheez]

You know what?

F*ck cameos.

Cop-outs are for sissies.

It's not like BW is underfunded for ME3 anyway.

[Ieldra]

It will be impossible for me to emotionally connect to any new team members if my old favorites don't come back in a significant capacity, for the new ones would always remind me of what was lost. In fact, it will be impossible to connect to the story.



This is not a new story, but the culmination of the old. The concept of a story told through three games with the same protagonist will be invalidated if those survivors of the suicide mission we didn't hire for just that one mission don't come back in a significant capacity.



My wish would be for a variable team. Select your favorite four of the ME2 survivors and add some new ones. We won't be getting that, though, because Bioware wants to make sure most of their content reaches as many players as possible. So what's left? I want the whole team back. Minus Zaeed and Kasumi I guess.



If they're not on the team, I could live with it, but then I'd expect a significant (ME2-level) amount of meaningful interaction with them and a significant role in the plot. Make a one-shot cameo of my favorites and ME3 will be ruined for me.

[Freestate2nd]

I think to be necesary to include a batarian into the squad as an option,it´s very interesting in terms of plot because they could fit on a renegade style of play or some kind of race redemption if they colaborate on saving the galaxy.

Please somebody could gave me only one reason for jacob´s return?.It´s only a black soldier without jokes,empathy and no carisma! There are many ways to make a black badass char,he´s totally dispensable.

[Rasputin]

IMHO



ME3 wont be ME3 without Liara, Garrus and Tali.

of the ME2 crowd I would also pick Miranda, Samara, Kasumi & Mordin



Legion was pretty cool and should be in there so we have a "link" to the Geth.

[matt-bassist]

the whole 2nd game was about collecting your squad. why the hell would they invest so much time into creating these characters if they simply become cameos in the next game?

[nuclearpengu1nn]

I want all my crew from mass effect 1 to mass effect 3

immagine that having the most elite, the best of the best in the galaxy as your crew members

[Zeke01231]

legion is a gimme...he is just data so he can easily reload into a new "platform" if killed on the SM and if you gave him to Cerberus he also can show up in 3...basically as unkillable as Liara.

[Rune-Chan]

Let's assume they all survived.

For squad members/people aboard the Normandy:

Garrus and Tali because they are very loyal to Shepard (unless you go out of your way to be nasty, but even then you can't really pick on Garrus).
Mordin because he is a scientific genius and can help you greatly.
Miranda and Jacob because they are Cerberus/Loyal to Shepard depending.

People who show up:

Wrex and Grunt, Wrex uniting the Krogan, Grunt a part of it all.
Virmire Survivor, probably leading the Alliance's ground forces.
Legion with the non-heretic Geth.
Liara as the new Shadow Broker.

People who have very small or non-existent roles:

Kasumi and Zaeed as they were DLC and only in it for the money.
Samara, Jack and Thane as they have kept their end of the bargain and have their own lives to get back to.

As for non squad members I think it's best to assume that everyone who could have a possible role (Anderson etc.) will return.

Personally I am hoping for little or no new squad members, although we can guarantee this won't be the case as they will want some people to show off in their advertisements.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 07 février 2011 - 08:52 .

[Funkcase]

I want them all in ME3.

[Freestate2nd]

[quote]vader da slayer wrote...

kick (deffenitely not)
Jacob
Mordin (just don't like him for some reason)
Zaeed

WTF!! dude!!! Mordin It´s the char with more lines of dialog and a incredible mad scientist! why!!!
I agree with the the non-cool jacob,bioware must take a look on samuel l jackson or lance reddick to make a good afro-char, jacob resembles only a crossover of silly marine and basketball gansta!!
I expect jacob returns as a traitor to put a bullet on this head! I hate this guy!

[SpiderCygnus]

A good mix of old and new members would be fine.



Tali and Garrus are the most loyal to Shepard like some have already said. A good connection in all 3 games. I´d like them to return the most.

Miranda and Jacob are loyal to Shepard and they don´t have a reason to leave the Normandy.

Legion is the link with the geth so he stays with Shepard.

Grunt considers Shepard his battlemaster so he´d stay.

I would like Kasumi to return too. Maybe develop the issue about the info inside the grey box.



The rest could be:

-Kaidan/Ashley

-an asari

-a batarian

-female turian or drell

-Big Ben guy

-human from the opposite sex of the Virmire Survivor

[Tamahome560]

Phaedon wrote...

ME3 has a shorter dev cycle compared to ME2 yes

The development for ME3 started before ME2 was released.

Thank you for correcting me!