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Deep Paragon/Renegade Conflict regarding torture. Comparison with Hitlers army.


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TowranPeter

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(Before you freak out, hear me out.  This is definitely an intellectual, mature discussion since Mass Effect content in general is very mature & intellectual. And make sure you read my supporting logic statement, it will most likely counter intitial argument and saving me the time of having to repeat myself).

You're given the option to use a certain piece of 'useful data' that was acquired through means of gross scientific experiment & torture.   Much like Hitler's science camp that experimented on Jews, the scenario is very similar.  Hitler performed horrible experiments on his fellow humans and questionable, useful scientific data was produced.

In my opinion, choosing to use this data is renegade.  And choosing to destroy it is paragon. 

Shepard specifically says that the data is tainted.  I too believe it is tainted.  I'd much rather destroy the data and stay true to the belief that any scientific data acquired through the use of torture and horrid scientific means should be destroyed and thus award Paragon.  By accepting the use of the data, you're justifying future rebel organizations the means of torture and adbuction since they know full well you'll use the research.

Supporting Logic

Scientist Bob is mad & crazy, he has decided that he will experiment on human beings through an excessive means of torture to achieve a scientific result.  Bob knows that his horrid experiments will result in his own death via execution by his government, but in his sick & twisted mind he knows that his scientific data will still be used even though he will be killed.   He uses this as justification for his cause. 

Three years pass and Bob has produced a huge amount of beneficial scientific data for humanity, but 182 babies were tortured and burned alive,  812 males were brutally tortured and 189 women were raped repeatedly over & over again.  But the scientific data acquired through such horrid means is 'valuable'. 

Choosing to keep it is renegade.

Choosing to destroy it is paragon.

By destroying the data you send a clear message to anyone corrupt that torture and horrid experimentation on sapient species is not tolerated IN ANYWAY.  Bioware seems to think it is justified, kind of sad that their writers are corrupt in this way.

The game is trying to force me to believe that torture and gross scientific experiment are 'paragon'.  This post was made to send a clear message to Bioware that it IS NOT PARAGON.

Modifié par TowranPeter, 07 février 2011 - 01:53 .


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Stanley Woo

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This is reminder to keep the discussion directly related to the game, please. This kind of discussion can easily get out of hand, and we don't want that.