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[Darker_than_black]

Meh. I don't like it when they bring back companions like this. You have the opportunity to let them die in Origins or Awakening and if you choose that they should stay dead! But if Anders is a "permanent" companion in DA2 then he will be that to all players regardless of choices in previous game, because it would not be fair if they who had Anders killed gets one companion less in DA2.

This is why I don't like that they make companion "comebacks" in the sequel. Ruins the story.

[SurelyForth]

Minxie18 wrote...

Anyways, I'm going to assume that the fact Anders is helping out refugees is one of the signs of how he's changed. The old Anders would have sympathized with refugees, but probably would have kept to himself to avoid attention.

This is the part that excited me the most! One of my favorite things about him in Awakening that never really gets addressed is the fact that, if you let him go when you first meet him, he comes back and insists on helping. Then there’s the fact that his necklace is from when he rescued a bann during one of his escape attempts. He's self-centered, but he's compassionate, too.

Darker_than_black wrote...

Meh. I don't like it when they bring back companions like this. You have the opportunity to let them die in Origins or Awakening and if you choose that they should stay dead! But if Anders is a "permanent" companion in DA2 then he will be that to all players regardless of choices in previous game, because it would not be fair if they who had Anders killed gets one companion less in DA2.

This is why I don't like that they make companion "comebacks" in the sequel. Ruins the story.

You don't actually get the option to let him die. You can turn him over to the templars, in which case we know that one of them wants him to die, but there is no confirmation of his death.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 07 février 2011 - 09:21 .

[Johnny Shepard]

Riosred wrote...

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

Party:
We all know Isabella is around. I haven't been following too
close, so I don't know if this is common knowledge. The article mentions
that one of the first party members to join you will be Anders, the
mage from Awakening. He may have changed dialogue based on his ending in
Awakening, but suffice to say is that he left the Wardens after the
events of Awakening to live in Kirkwall, where he uses his healing
abilities to aid refugees in the city.

now i dont know how accurate this is but it has never failed when someone posts stuff from game informer

[link removed]



[posting scans of magazine pages is a no-no]


EDIT:for people who dont want spoilers and sorry for posting those pics

If his dialogue changes to depending on the choices you made in Awakening, (and Awakening is a few months after the end of the blight) how can he be one of the first companions you meet when you get to Kirkwall...? Isn't Kirkwall right after you flee Lothering...am I missing something?

Verric is the first. Isabela is said to be in a later part of the game (David Gaider said that the second part of the demo takes place later in the game and thats when you get Isabela) so I'm guessing Anders is nr.2? I don't think we will se him during the first year so I'm guessing after the first longer time jump when the first year is finnished?

[Jzadek72]

SurelyForth wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

Anyways, I'm going to assume that the fact Anders is helping out refugees is one of the signs of how he's changed. The old Anders would have sympathized with refugees, but probably would have kept to himself to avoid attention.

This is the part that excited me the most! One of my favorite things about him in Awakening that never really gets addressed is the fact that, if you let him go when you first meet him, he comes back and insists on helping. Then there’s the fact that his necklace is from when he rescued a bann during one of his escape attempts. He's self-centered, but he's compassionate, too.

And he has an awesome resurrection-cat.

[the_sorceress]

David said what he is, right? So maybe he is not, as we think, a companion - but an NPC? Or even an enemy...



I don't see why people would assume that the "change" in him is for good... he might've become an evil badass... Which brings me to the thought that maybe it isn't Justice that possessed him... Oh me and my crazy speculations xD

[Ninotchka]

Darker_than_black wrote...

Meh. I don't like it when they bring back companions like this. You have the opportunity to let them die in Origins or Awakening and if you choose that they should stay dead! But if Anders is a "permanent" companion in DA2 then he will be that to all players regardless of choices in previous game, because it would not be fair if they who had Anders killed gets one companion less in DA2.

This is why I don't like that they make companion "comebacks" in the sequel. Ruins the story.

As DG said, he is not the same Anders as you may remember him to be in Awakenings - give it a chance, you might yet become an Anders fan

[Miri1984]

Making him a warden means he has a lot more freedom. It will be interesting if you meet him in the two months he's supposed to be off doing his own stuff, and how you react with him determines whether or not he comes back permanently.

[Zjarcal]

LiquidGrape wrote...

Another theory: Wynne's passed on and her "benefactor" has moved inside Anders' hide instead. I should add that I hate this theory because I hate the idea of Wynne passing on.

OMG NO!!!! I don't want traces of Wynne on Anders!!!! 

[Personality Disorder]

yukidama wrote...

The spice must flow.

Indeed. I am starting to see a bigger picture here...

[Darker_than_black]

Ninotchka wrote...

Darker_than_black wrote...

Meh. I don't like it when they bring back companions like this. You have the opportunity to let them die in Origins or Awakening and if you choose that they should stay dead! But if Anders is a "permanent" companion in DA2 then he will be that to all players regardless of choices in previous game, because it would not be fair if they who had Anders killed gets one companion less in DA2.

This is why I don't like that they make companion "comebacks" in the sequel. Ruins the story.

As DG said, he is not the same Anders as you may remember him to be in Awakenings - give it a chance, you might yet become an Anders fan

Ugh...It has nothing to do with Anders as a character. I do like him. He has the good bits of Alistair without the whiny, wimpy, lack of confidence bits. Its the principle. It ruins the story when you get the choice to let someone die only to discover that "big surprise! The devs have brought him/her back to life".

[nightcobra]

Miri1984 wrote...

Making him a warden means he has a lot more freedom. It will be interesting if you meet him in the two months he's supposed to be off doing his own stuff, and how you react with him determines whether or not he comes back permanently.

templar: show me your circle permission

anders: i'm not with the circle

templar: you're under arrest!

anders: but i'm a grey warden

templar: prove it

anders: how do i go about to do that? the commander never did say how to prove it

templar: silence mage, you're coming with me for interrogation.

anders: look! a maleficar!

templar: where?!

*anders runs away* : i can't believe that actually worked:D

[syllogi]

If Anders is now possessed by a spirit, I hope his own personality hasn't been completely obliterated...that would just be cruel to bring him back totally different. =(

[Marionetten]

Will Anders return as a blood mage if I made him one in Awakening? I remember him commenting on it and how he was technically a maleficar now.

[Calla S]

[Ninotchka]

Darker_than_black wrote...

Ninotchka wrote...

Darker_than_black wrote...

Meh. I don't like it when they bring back companions like this. You have the opportunity to let them die in Origins or Awakening and if you choose that they should stay dead! But if Anders is a "permanent" companion in DA2 then he will be that to all players regardless of choices in previous game, because it would not be fair if they who had Anders killed gets one companion less in DA2.

This is why I don't like that they make companion "comebacks" in the sequel. Ruins the story.

As DG said, he is not the same Anders as you may remember him to be in Awakenings - give it a chance, you might yet become an Anders fan

Ugh...It has nothing to do with Anders as a character. I do like him. He has the good bits of Alistair without the whiny, wimpy, lack of confidence bits. Its the principle. It ruins the story when you get the choice to let someone die only to discover that "big surprise! The devs have brought him/her back to life".

Yeah it's those Bioware writers that the templars should be really worried about - all that power at their disposal :innocent:

[Minxie]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

Making him a warden means he has a lot more freedom. It will be interesting if you meet him in the two months he's supposed to be off doing his own stuff, and how you react with him determines whether or not he comes back permanently.

templar: show me your circle permission

anders: i'm not with the circle

templar: you're under arrest!

anders: but i'm a grey warden

templar: prove it

anders: how do i go about to do that? the commander never did say how to prove it

templar: silence mage, you're coming with me for interrogation.

anders: look! a maleficar!

templar: where?!

*anders runs away* : i can't believe that actually worked:D

I actually think that something like this is how we recruit Anders, like Hawke stepping in to help, and afterwards Anders decides he'd like to tag along out of gratitude (and/or in case of future confrontations with templars).

[Brockololly]

TeenZombie wrote...

If Anders is now possessed by a spirit, I hope his own personality hasn't been completely obliterated...that would just be cruel to bring him back totally different. =(

And thats exactly why BioWare will do it. They looooove those tears!

[KBomb]

I don’t know whether to be disheartened by David Gaider’s comment, or excited about it.

[syllogi]

Brockololly wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

If Anders is now possessed by a spirit, I hope his own personality hasn't been completely obliterated...that would just be cruel to bring him back totally different. =(

And thats exactly why BioWare will do it. They looooove those tears!

And I bet Ser Pounce-a-lot was one of the kittens sacrificed to make the helmet toggle possible.

  There, Bioware, are you happy???

[LiquidGrape]

Zjarcal wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

Another theory: Wynne's passed on and her "benefactor" has moved inside Anders' hide instead. I should add that I hate this theory because I hate the idea of Wynne passing on.

OMG NO!!!! I don't want traces of Wynne on Anders!!!! 

And I'd like to think Wynne's spirit would have the taste not to go near Anders.

[Ninotchka]

KBomb wrote...


I don’t know whether to be disheartened by David Gaider’s comment, or excited about it.

Aweeee...he can't be that different, otherwise he wouldn't be Anders...right?

[Zjarcal]

LiquidGrape wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

Another theory: Wynne's passed on and her "benefactor" has moved inside Anders' hide instead. I should add that I hate this theory because I hate the idea of Wynne passing on.

OMG NO!!!! I don't want traces of Wynne on Anders!!!! 

And I'd like to think Wynne's spirit would have the taste not to go near Anders.

As long as she stays away from Anders, I'm happy. 

[Miri1984]

Now, Anders isn't dead, but possibly saved by Justice depending on the ending you get. If this is the way DG deals with the epilogue I bow to him. Despite his evilness. Because it is pure genius. And I hope Justice doesn't mind if I still romance Anders. (surely he can shut his mental eyes and go lalalalala??)

[KBomb]

Ninotchka wrote...

KBomb wrote...


I don’t know whether to be disheartened by David Gaider’s comment, or excited about it.

Aweeee...he can't be that different, otherwise he wouldn't be Anders...right?

You give this one hope.