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[nightcobra]

stickmanhenry wrote...

I think it will be a balance of both Anders' personality and Justices' personality.
Keeps people who hated Anders happy.

Also could make for some very funny moments.

Anders: Onwards for great justice!

Justice: was that supposed to be a joke?

Anders: did you like it?

Justice: not really, no.

Anders: you know, for a spirit you're awfully "down to earth" *snickers*

Justice: You are alluding to something. I know not what.
 

[IndelibleJester]

... I guess I have to buy the ultimate edition and play awakenings now. :/

[Kerethos]

As far as I can see, and this is pure speculation on my part, there are several things that might change about Anders based on what you did in Awakening.
1.       Anders was never recruited:
Anders managed to escape the Circle and joined Isabella. Thus he’s not a Grey Warden nor does he have Ser Pounce-a-lot.
2.       Anders was recruited, and survived Awakening:
He’s a Grey Warden, he may or many not have Ser Pounce-a-lot. Then he either left the Grey Wardens for good or the Warden Commander let him travel freely, given that the Darkspawn threat in Ferelden had been dealt with.
3.       Anders was recruited, but given to the tempars:
A mix of the two above I suppose.
4.       Anders was recruited, and died at the end of Awakening:
Same as if he survived, but when he died Justice chose to save him by taking possession of his body.
And in any scenario where he lived one would assume Justice tagged along or will do so at some point during DA2. Either way he could very well become one of the most interesting companions in DA2.
I wasn't that keen on the idea when I first learned Anders would return, but now I'm quite exited. I wonder though, if any of them (Anders, Isabella or any who met the Warden/ Warden Commander) will make a mention of him/her being an Amell (if you import a human mage). That'd be so awesome, though far fetched I suppose since that's Hawke's mothers side - and thus not his/her surname.

[London]

Ser Pounce-A-Lot survived all of Awakening in my playthrough, lol.



Where did the Justice possession rumor come from? Is it the blue eyes in the picture, or is there more to support it? Sorry if I missed this.



I hope we get normal Anders back. Justice can RIP imo.

[Nerevar-as]

SebastianDA wrote...

Ser Pounce-A-Lot survived all of Awakening in my playthrough, lol.

Where did the Justice possession rumor come from? Is it the blue eyes in the picture, or is there more to support it? Sorry if I missed this.

I hope we get normal Anders back. Justice can RIP imo.

The achievement list points to that. But if it is as in Wynne´s possession, don´t know if doing an exorcism is the thing to do. Besides extra power, being the host of a "virtue" spirit could protect against demon possession.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Nerevar-as wrote...

The achievement list points to that. But if it is as in Wynne´s possession, don´t know if doing an exorcism is the thing to do. Besides extra power, being the host of a "virtue" spirit could protect against demon possession.

I won't go into detail about why since I don't want to spoil people in here if they didn't want to read the achievements, but... I don't think that particular achievement has to do with Anders/Justice.

[madsabroo]

Didn't the source article say A spirit of Justice not THE spirit of Justice? I guess that's arguing semantics, but in the game play video and the blurry trailer shot, Anders doesn't have glowing eyes. They only appear in that one screen shot. That makes me think it's not a permanent thing, or perhaps not a true possession at all.

[Teddie Sage]

So, Awakening doesn't have to be canon after all? Sweet...



I also wish that Anders is going to be romanceable for both genders.

[IndelibleJester]

Wait, so... if Anders dies in awakening, does he still pop up in DA2 with an import from such decisions?

[Teddie Sage]

In my mind, Awakening never happened. So it's possible that this Anders comes from an alternate reality. lol

[Rinji the Bearded]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

The achievement list points to that. But if it is as in Wynne´s possession, don´t know if doing an exorcism is the thing to do. Besides extra power, being the host of a "virtue" spirit could protect against demon possession.

I won't go into detail about why since I don't want to spoil people in here if they didn't want to read the achievements, but... I don't think that particular achievement has to do with Anders/Justice.

I agree, since Justice seemed to only want to possess the willing (well according to the Awakening banter anyway).  That achievement sounds more like a Connor situation, with an actual malevolent demon.

As to all this Justice!Anders business... I think it's not going to be a complete take-over.  Anders in Dragon Age: Awakening was only concerned about saving his own skin and was cowardly, but now we see in DA2 that he seems to be taking a stand against the Chantry instead of complaining about it.  Justice preached to Anders in DA:OA that he needed to stand up for his comrades against oppression... sounds like this is exactly what he is doing, with Justice's help (if this indeed the same Justice)!  I'm looking forward to this character development in him.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 08 février 2011 - 03:24 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

madsabroo wrote...

Didn't the source article say A spirit of Justice not THE spirit of Justice? I guess that's arguing semantics, but in the game play video and the blurry trailer shot, Anders doesn't have glowing eyes. They only appear in that one screen shot. That makes me think it's not a permanent thing, or perhaps not a true possession at all.

That's true, there's no indication that this will be the same Justice from DA:A, it's just speculation. I think Anders would be more receptive if it were 'the' Justice though, since he knows him (if he had any choice in the matter).

I had considered the idea that non-glowy-eyed Anders was actual Anders, but I didn't know whether or not Justice in DA:A had glowy eyes in Kristoff's body since I haven't played Awakening. If he didn't, then the single glowy eye shot might just be some special ability or a show of power, and not an indicator of who is in control.

[Russalka]

The spirit in the body of Kristoff had epilogues in which it was around for years. Perhaps the identity of the spirit is left ambiguous, or there is a connection, but of a different sort.

Modifié par Russalka, 08 février 2011 - 03:37 .

[Hawke92]

Well i don't know about you but i prefer Anders is him self not a Justice spirit trying to serve justice on every single time.

[nightcobra]

Hawke92 wrote...

Well i don't know about you but i prefer Anders is him self not a Justice spirit trying to serve justice on every single time.

why do you think it has to be one or the other? it could be done like this:

[Aoba]

Whacka wrote...

My day is officially ruined now.

Good to know, really. It warms my heart knowing this unofficial reveal of Anders has ruined the days of so many people. It makes me want to get up and dance, maybe even sing, too! I won't, though. There's only so much awesome this thread can handle. Perhaps another time, yes?

Ah, so Anders is returning as a companion? Never thought I'd actually be right with my earlier declarations, but... there it is. Hm, must be a blue moon out, then. I'll have to take a picture of it come nightfall.

*reads more of the article* Anders has a spirit of justice inside of him, I take it? This is... intriguing. I've no qualms if it's the same Justice from Awakening (he was a favourite of mine right alongside Anders, Sigrun, Nathaniel, and Varel). If he's not that Justice, still don't think I'd be bothered. I wonder if this spirit is able to enhance Anders' abilities?

Anders: You'll just have to wait and see, m'lady, but I can promise you this: you won't leave disappointed.

Yay.

Justice: *groans* This is going to be a loooong ten years.

Modifié par ACWolfe, 08 février 2011 - 04:55 .

[Arthur Cousland]

Big shocker. All the clues pointed towards Anders being the "mystery final companion", and that character in the picture sure looked like Anders, or his twin. As he was one of my favorite companions in Awakening or Origins, I don't mind his return.



Perhaps if he died during your playthrough, you get to recruit Anders in undead form?

[Eudaemonium]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

Perhaps if he died during your playthrough, you get to recruit Anders in undead form?

I think it'll either be that or that Justice possessed him on the verge of death so he never actually completely died. Kinda like Wynne, who was 'dead' but wasn't decomposing ala Kristoff.

[ankuu]

Kerethos_ wrote...

As far as I can see, and this is pure speculation on my part, there are several things that might change about Anders based on what you did in Awakening.
1.       Anders was never recruited:
Anders managed to escape the Circle and joined Isabella. Thus he’s not a Grey Warden nor does he have Ser Pounce-a-lot.
2.       Anders was recruited, and survived Awakening:
He’s a Grey Warden, he may or many not have Ser Pounce-a-lot. Then he either left the Grey Wardens for good or the Warden Commander let him travel freely, given that the Darkspawn threat in Ferelden had been dealt with.
3.       Anders was recruited, but given to the tempars:
A mix of the two above I suppose.
4.       Anders was recruited, and died at the end of Awakening:
Same as if he survived, but when he died Justice chose to save him by taking possession of his body.
And in any scenario where he lived one would assume Justice tagged along or will do so at some point during DA2. Either way he could very well become one of the most interesting companions in DA2.
I wasn't that keen on the idea when I first learned Anders would return, but now I'm quite exited. I wonder though, if any of them (Anders, Isabella or any who met the Warden/ Warden Commander) will make a mention of him/her being an Amell (if you import a human mage). That'd be so awesome, though far fetched I suppose since that's Hawke's mothers side - and thus not his/her surname.

Well as far as I've heard, you will go on a quest to find out something about your family...so if you take Anders with you on that quest and someone says the name Amell, he might remember. I am going to be a mage and import my Amell mage. I think it's the best option available

[ladyofpayne]

DG write some time ago that NPC under Demon of Desire is possible. And Anders wish to be free.

[Arthur Cousland]

Eudaemonium wrote...

Arthur Cousland wrote...

Perhaps if he died during your playthrough, you get to recruit Anders in undead form?

I think it'll either be that or that Justice possessed him on the verge of death so he never actually completely died. Kinda like Wynne, who was 'dead' but wasn't decomposing ala Kristoff.

I made my undead comment before reading up on the possession part.  Funny how things work out.

While I'm glad Anders is making his return, this "scenario" is too interesting to find out more about on the forums.  I think I'll try to avoid anymore Anders spoilers.  The next thing I'll read about is how Anders is really a templar in disguise.

[ObserverStatus]

I doubt Anders is possessed by Justice, how would he do that if Justice was battling the Mother when Anders died?

[madsabroo]

Whether or not Anders died in your play through won't make any difference. I'm pretty sure no save file was generated at the end of Awakening, meaning your epilogue or choices regarding Anders are irrelevant.

[ObserverStatus]

madsabroo wrote...

Whether or not Anders died in your play through won't make any difference. I'm pretty sure no save file was generated at the end of Awakening, meaning your epilogue or choices regarding Anders are irrelevant.

When i imported my awakening file into golems of amgarak i had the same gear as I did at the end of awakening, so idk about that.

[madsabroo]

bobobo878 wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

Whether or not Anders died in your play through won't make any difference. I'm pretty sure no save file was generated at the end of Awakening, meaning your epilogue or choices regarding Anders are irrelevant.

When i imported my awakening file into golems of amgarak i had the same gear as I did at the end of awakening, so idk about that.

Importing character/equipment =/= Logging plot choices