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[TheEgoRaptor]

Couldn't think of anywhere else to put this but is there any definative info about how long it takes an Asari to give birth? Nine months like humans? Or would it be plausable to say that due to the mental and biotic cababilities of all Asari that they would carry the child for around the two year mark before it is fully developed in all Asari Fields? Just need to know this for a novel I plan to write, small things like this help me allot in planing for totally stuffing the normal plot to give it my own twist.

Much appreciate an answer on this soon.

[Whatever42]

Probably not dissimilar to humans. If you look at human primates, the gestation periods are all very close in length, despite humans having far larger and more developed brains. Since Asari DNA is also not dissimilar to humans, unlike Turians and Quarians who are built on dextro-amino acids, I don't know how much variance you would get there either.

[LukeT]

Whats the point..?

[Rune-Chan]

I'd imagine it'd be around the same time as humans really.

LukeT wrote...

Whats the point..?

In you bothering to reply?

Not much really.

[TheEgoRaptor]

LukeT wrote...

Whats the point..?

The point, Luke, is that I'm using the background and ingame choices of my ME1/ME2 Character to shape my ME 2.5 if you will. That will include a relationship with Liara. Does it make sense now?

[Iwillbeback]

I doubt its the exact same.

Asari live longer so they might take longer to have babies too.

[LukeT]

I was just asking him to simplify what he needed it for, sorry for the bad tone and thanks Alaric.

[shoggoth1890]

Time spent in utero has more to do with body mass than longevity.

[shoggoth1890]

Actually, do they even have a uterus? I always think of hydrozoans when I think of their reproduction, like budding. That is probably more fitting to Hanar though.

[Whatever42]

Asari have breasts and wide hips and standard humanoid sex organs. We have to assume they bear live young and nurse them.



Lifespan shouldn't matter. Humans live twice as long as chimpanzes but have roughly the same gestation. The prime factor on earth is simply size. It takes a while for DNA to replicate much. Asari DNA maybe be different but its still structurally the same and built from the same chemicals so I would assume its similar to humans.

[Scimal]

LukeT wrote...

Whats the point..?

Well, if the gestation period is 3 years, you could be a daddy in ME3 (assuming you made the right choices).

OP: No, nothing's been said or written that I know of.

Using humans as an analog isn't the best idea, either. Sure, primates all have similar gestation periods, but mammals range pretty widely from a few weeks to over a year.

Since it's fanfiction, write whatever you want. Doesn't much matter, especially in Sci-Fi settings. Hormones could speed it up, others retard the cell divisions - delaying growth. Your choice.

For all I'm aware of, the Asari could lay an egg and incubate it. It makes sense given that they don't need donor DNA, so whatever they do to get pregnant must be self-contained sans some sort of interpretation of the mate's DNA to randomize certain sequences in the embryo's DNA.

[Elvis_Mazur]

I don't think such thing is ever mentioned in the game.

[Scimal]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Asari have breasts and wide hips and standard humanoid sex organs. We have to assume they bear live young and nurse them.

Lifespan shouldn't matter. Humans live twice as long as chimpanzes but have roughly the same gestation. The prime factor on earth is simply size. It takes a while for DNA to replicate much. Asari DNA maybe be different but its still structurally the same and built from the same chemicals so I would assume its similar to humans.

Don't assume anything.

They've never said whether or not the Asari have human-like sex organs, and even mammalian organs aren't necessary for live young (Monotremes). The only thing you might assume is that they nurse their young because teats are a fairly universal trait among creatures that do so - however, you're still assuming that the bowling balls jutting out of Samara's chest are breasts.

And it's not DNA size that regulates gestation periods. DNA size means practically nothing. If it did, it'd take years for some insects (like the one they found recently with the largest genome of any animal) to reproduce.

Gestation is determined by cell signalers - hormones. Cells can replicate in hours. Hormones tell them when to replicate, what to turn into, and when to stop replicating.

[JHU_P4NDA]

I've actually always wondered about that. What kind of "azure" must you have to be able to mate with any species in the galaxy...

[Glorious_Leader]

Their gestation most likely isn't much more than that of humans if their growth from infant to young adult is similar to our own. In humans, the fetus is not done developing when they're born. It's just that if they developed any more inside of their mother, a smooth birth would be almost impossible due to the size of the child. This is why our offspring are so vulnerable and dependent on us at young ages. Even if Asari live longer, the point at which the child is born is based more on anatomy than what level of development the fetus is at, provided it's beyond the point where it can survive outside of its mother.

[Whatever42]

Scimal wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Asari have breasts and wide hips and standard humanoid sex organs. We have to assume they bear live young and nurse them.

Lifespan shouldn't matter. Humans live twice as long as chimpanzes but have roughly the same gestation. The prime factor on earth is simply size. It takes a while for DNA to replicate much. Asari DNA maybe be different but its still structurally the same and built from the same chemicals so I would assume its similar to humans.

Don't assume anything.

They've never said whether or not the Asari have human-like sex organs, and even mammalian organs aren't necessary for live young (Monotremes). The only thing you might assume is that they nurse their young because teats are a fairly universal trait among creatures that do so - however, you're still assuming that the bowling balls jutting out of Samara's chest are breasts.

And it's not DNA size that regulates gestation periods. DNA size means practically nothing. If it did, it'd take years for some insects (like the one they found recently with the largest genome of any animal) to reproduce.

Gestation is determined by cell signalers - hormones. Cells can replicate in hours. Hormones tell them when to replicate, what to turn into, and when to stop replicating.

I'm still going to assume. Things get a little too crazy otherwise. And we did see Liara semi naked so I know those aren't bowling balls. ;-)

And I meant size of the mammal, not size of the DNA. But good point about the hormones. Heck, for all we know, the telepathic Asari, who telepathically reproduce, can control the gestation time of their young.

[naledgeborn]

To the people who are hoping for Liara Shep babies, ain't gonna happen. She's a maiden, she'll continue being one for ~ another 200 years. Only matrons/matriarchs have blue babies.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 07 février 2011 - 10:26 .

[Halfdan The Menace]

8-9 years as a fetus
How they reproduce? probably parthenogenesis or they have a second you-know-what,a tiny wang down there...

Modifié par ModestmeNTaLmogul, 07 février 2011 - 11:31 .

[kill_switch_423]

"Asari can live for over 1,000 years, passing through three stages of life. In the Maiden stage, they wander restlessly, seeking new knowledge and experience. When the Matron stage begins, they "meld" with interesting partners to produce their offspring. This ends when they reach the Matriarch stage, where they assume the roles of leaders and councilors. "



It doesn't say that they can't meld earlier, but it seems to be assumed that it is the standard. It's definitely very possible, however, that Liara is not yet of childbearing age.], though several other Asari who speak of mating in-gme appear to be maiden stage as well. It could go either way, so write it as you wish it.



Then there's this:



"Asari pass through three climacteric life stages, marked by biochemical and physiological changes. The Maiden stage begins at birth and is marked by the drive to explore and experience. Most young asari are curious and restless.



The Matron stage of life begins around the age of 350, though it can be triggered earlier if the individual melds frequently. This period is marked by a desire to settle in one area and raise children. "



This points more towards that when an Asari is psychologically ready for Matron stage, her body goes through the motions to needed set Matron stage in effect. Probably not at Lira's age (about 154 at this point if I recall correctly... "I hate top admit it, but I'm barely over one-hundred and fifty" is the line in ME1 I'm thinking of...), but it still doesn't say it's impossible if Liara has such a will.



Personally, I don't think she does, but it's your story. Do what you wish with it.

[JrayM16]

Everything about Asari is basically human proceses slowed down, whether it makes sense in somes places or not.

[Ablaz3d]

http://meforums.biow...forum=104&sp=15
As explained by Chris L'Etoile

"Without getting into too much detail, asari are considered female because:

1) They produce the equivalent of egg cells - cells that contain genetic material which can develop into a new independant organism. How they use them is a bit weird from the human point of view.

2) They possess the equivalent of a womb - a place where "activated" egg cells develop within them.

3) From the human point of view, they have a host of secondary sexual characteristics associated with femaleness (mammary glands, distribution of fats, higher pitched voice, etc.)

It's open to debate whether or not a species can truly be "female" (or "male") when they are monogendered. For the purposes of classification by multi-gendered species, who are the majority in the galaxy, the asari clearly fill a female niche.

The codex is not written from human or Spectre/galactic point of view (save one or two entries which deal with topics only the player knows about). It's supposed to be an objective encyclopedia, presenting topics in a neutral tone. The hope was that the background material Shepard would know growing up in the world would be presented tot the player in a way that allows you to make your own judgements on whether "X" is good or bad.

<-- Codex guy"

Link


"Keep in mind that just because the asari are asexual this does not mean that they are biologically incompatible.

/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png"

"I will try to explain this in the most broad biological terms as possible.

Asexual: Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction that occurs without the union of male and female gametes, as in binary fission or budding.

Essentially, the asari race to not need a male gene donor to reproduce. They do still birth new asari (a more feminine looking asari as seen in our videos and comparable to a human female in many respects. They do still do a live birth as human mammals do (as opposed to some sort of egg laying or budding or whatever).

And I would not get bogged down in terms of "human males". The asari have been romancing many different races for centuries long before humans showed up. As has been pointed out, there is more to romance than sex.

/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png" - Chris Priestly


Another Link


"Asari are explicitly female.

<--- in-game Codex Writer, master of IP science" - Chris L'Etoile

[TheEgoRaptor]

Hmm, this has given me allot to think on. And for thosewho are saying it is a fan fic and my own so I ccan do anything I want really, I understand this but for me, knowing my boundaries and limitations of the universe, setting I am writing about help in the creation of the story itself. But then again this is just my way of doing things.

[kill_switch_423]

I understand, I was simply stating that the groundwork is vague enough that you can go off into your own tangent on the subject without contradicting the lore.

[Bogsnot1]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Asari have breasts and wide hips and standard humanoid sex organs. We have to assume they bear live young and nurse them.

Not quite true. We see them as having breasts. Turian males see them as resembling blue turian females. Salarians see them as ersembling blue salarian females.
Hang around the Bachelor party in Eternity and you will hear the comments.

[rma2110]

I think humans see the breasts and hips as marking the Asari as female. The Turians see the hips, blue skin, and what looks like female head fringes on their head. To each their own.



Plus, who takes a bunch of drunks at a bachelor party seriously? I always thought the Asari melded a little of their bonds-mate's DNA with their own through the neural system. You know "embracing eternity"?