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#76
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If you find PCs are a hassle, it's because you are too stupid to use one and you're more than likely going to be the guy that ends up sending the worm email to everyone at your workplace.



Stick with your trouble free Macs. So trouble free you have warranties and Mac specific support forums. I imagine they're there for talking about the games you can't play and the things you can't do.

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Vactet

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Recently in a class I am taking I took a survey of the laptops. 7PC's..5Mac's.
Every single one of those mac users....elitist richy snob tools. The same type that drink 'late's' or whatever the heck that fruity 'grande' starbucks crap is.
Bah.

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ItsToofy

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Mac's a great choice if you...



Go to starbucks

....

Thats about all I could come up with.



True Story: A friend of a friend is an artist, and guess what, he owns a mac, and the latest game he bought for that mac was StarCraft

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kellkat2 wrote...

Kelston - I am not even close to elite. It's just a simple truth that Macs are better quality in the long run. I switched 2 years ago and haven't regretted one single minute.

I'd rather pay now than pay later with cheaply built, inferior quality that requires constant maintenance.


You are regretting it now because you can't play Dragon Age on it.

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golfnerd

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Or you could just get windows if you want to play all games.

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kellkat2 wrote...

Meanwhile, we Mac users just sit back and grin.

.. while you cry inside.

How pathetic such arrogant attitude and nature of the average Mac user. When you get in touch with reality, get the know it, see the different points of view, why some things are as they are, eat some tons of humble pie... then maybe you will be ready to defend Mac in the right way and not in "Sect Mode".

Also, DA:O for Linux when? They have like users too!!!

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Eidolonn

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Awwww. Leave the Mac user alone. He probably bought it just after he sold his soul to his iPod. Pretty funny that they had to rely on a non-computer product to provide them with the revenue to support their computer product.

I wonder why iPods are not only for Macs...

Oh yeah. They wanted to make money on the product. Thanks for reminding me.

IMO, Zune is superior anyhow.

Modifié par Eidolonn, 14 novembre 2009 - 04:14 .


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ItsToofy

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Mac's business plan.

Charge more for less functionality...

it's true with the Ipod and the Mac

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Vactet

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Hmm Ill stick with my Palm Treo 700 with Windows Mobile on it. Don't need a stinking iPod or any apple product.



When a Mac can play Crysis on High setti....oh wait....can they even play Crysis to begin with? :P



When will Mac users learn that on a game forum is NOT the place to tout the mac since most folks here are PC users since we...oh what was it.....ah right..we ACTUALLY LIKE TO PLAY the games we are interested in.



If Bioware makes DA:O for Mac it will be out of pity, nothing else, and surely not profits.

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I think if you plan to sell 10 million copies then making a version for a possible 10% of your market share might be a valid idea. But if you only have 2 or 3 million copies in circulation is it still worth the cost. Simple cost benefit analysis would have been done and that is what would have determined the situation.



tldr version: Biggest mmo has nothing to do with DAO. The OP is an invalid scenario.

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Totally unrelated to MMO's, but ya that there is no MAC support is quite sad. Still just get a Windows OS, its not all that bad and for gaming its def superior.

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just get bootcamp ffs.

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I never knew so many people got worked up over those Mac ads.  I think they're funny but they didn't really influence me on my decision to buy a Mac.  I used them in college back when they used b&w monitors (not as long ago as you may think... or maybe it's just longer than I remember...).  I liked them fine for the applications I was using but I wasn't really interested in buying one at the time.  Well, a PC either for that matter.  Recently I used one of the new iMacs while visiting a friend for a week and really enjoyed the experience.  I was in need of a new computer so a few months later I bought one of my own and haven't regretted it.

Like the OP I would also like to see an OS X version of DA:O but I can do without.  The only reason I'm thinking of buying the PC version is to play around with stuff I might make on the toolset or to play around with stuff some of you might be working on.  But as far as games in general are concerned, well I've got several game consoles for that and a windows partition for what they don't cover.  Image IPB

KingTazzo wrote...



Amiga or C64? I used to have a Spectrum +2 and look back on it with rose-tinted memories. If you were a C64 user perhaps we could restart the old Commodore vs Sinclair bashing and both relive some happy memories? ;)


Sinclair?  eeewwww  j/k  I was never really into system bashing.  C64 was my first computer.   Oh how I adored that machine.  I was saving up for an Amiga/video toaster when Commodore's lousy executives sunk the ship.

Modifié par LSDS, 14 novembre 2009 - 05:20 .


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missing out on a data base huh?

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toronto13

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To compare this game with some MMO................i guess you could say it would be like comparing some of the Tolken's work with the yellow press magazines.:))

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JigPig wrote...

....... aaaaaannnnnd we have a glorious selection for Mac gamers everywhere this holiday season *drumroll* BEHOLD, BOOTCAMP

Rofl,yea mac should put that into there pathetic commercials.Image IPB

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kellkat2 wrote...

Make this game Mac compatible. I would so play it. You're losing out on a large data base and $$.


actually macs are like 5-8% of the whole computer market, I'd say they aren't missing out on much.

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LSDS wrote...
Sinclair?  eeewwww  j/k  I was never really into system bashing.  C64 was my first computer.   Oh how I adored that machine.  I was saving up for an Amiga/video toaster when Commodore's lousy executives sunk the ship.


Ah how I loved my A500. SWOS - still the best football game ever made for my money. Almost equally as good on the ST to be fair.

My first exposure to system bashing was in the +2 days from a magazine called Sinclair User which was constantly bashing the C64. They even went so far as to release issues with stickers or badges bundled touting incredibly witty slogans such as "C64 sucks" or the like. Ironically they had a sister magazine from the same publisher called something like Commodore User that presumably used identical bashing techniques aimed at the spectrum!

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Hah! They were double dealing? My favorite magazine back then was Ahoy! That magazine and articles by Orson Scott Card are what got me into programming. But sadly enough, my love for programming died with the C64 and the fall of Commodore. I was looking forward to continuing on with the Amiga but w/e. Those old Motorola chips were a lot of fun. I tried to get back into it a few years back but it just doesn't feel the same anymore.

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Ghandorian wrote...

I think if you plan to sell 10 million copies then making a version for a possible 10% of your market share might be a valid idea. But if you only have 2 or 3 million copies in circulation is it still worth the cost. Simple cost benefit analysis would have been done and that is what would have determined the situation.

tldr version: Biggest mmo has nothing to do with DAO. The OP is an invalid scenario.


It seems like you are thinking that every mac user has a newer mac, or a powerful mac that actually can play some new games.

So even if mac hypothetical has 10% of the market, it's still just maybe 10% of them that actually has the hardware to run the game with acceptable performance.

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syklonis01

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Please, every mac user stop asking for gaming on your system. Until the market deems it necessary, just stop and use your emulators/bootcamp in the meantime. Macs are geared for design and editing video, any new users who opt in to buy them should know that.



And for once just stop with we have no viruses ploy. Why do you think they don't get viruses often? Because no one uses freekin macs. Once the install base switches over to macs, (I doubt in my lifetime) macs will be the target for viruses, hence everyone will be using them...If that's your reason for buying macs, well their campaign has fooled you as well.



Good luck playing games though as this game is great! And to the moron who says you'll put your mac up against any PC, bring it...As I'll be playing DA:O maxed while you continue to wish you could.

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Daveraa wrote...

As the owner of a computer shop that sells both Macs and PCs I can honestly say that Macs are great for people with too much money who don't want to play games or do over complex things with their computers (outside of a few specialist areas where Macs are on par with but not ahead of PCs).

The myths that Apple (and Mac users) have managed to spread about Macs are truely astonishing. But there is no doubt that they have done a fantastic job as a company in turning around their fortunes (helped in no small part by Microsofts incredible ability to mess up). Its a victory of image over content, which is true of many things in the modern world.

But what it boils down to for Dragon Age is that the effort involved in trying to port it to Mac are not even close to the return. Mac users in general don't buy games and the ones who do install windows on their Mac.


Quoted for the Truth. You couldn't of said it better and more truthfull. The Fact is there isn't a bigger enough market for games on Macs. Most Mac users who want to game on Mac's just install Windows on it.

Maybe Mac Users should get a "Cue" Image IPB

Modifié par Apex Sammoth, 15 novembre 2009 - 12:18 .


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kellkat2 wrote... 
It's just a simple truth that Macs are better quality in the long run.

I'd rather pay now than pay later with cheaply built, inferior quality that requires constant maintenance.

Please.  Tell that to my wife, who is now on her 3rd Macbook in 4 years because of its flat-out poor hardware quality.  Even after the usual Mac hard-drive armageddon, the actual casing on each of her macbooks would start falling apart in a year.  Those machines are built to be disposed.

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zzenn wrote...

Any worthwhile software for the Mac is also available for a PC.


That's not entirely true, but it's pretty close.  Final Cut Pro for video/film and Logic Pro for electronic music - those are really great programs...then again, I'd take Ableton over Logic, hands down, so there is a better alternative available.  Logic is the only thing that's ever made me want a Mac, but that was before Live 7-8.

I have no problem with someone wanting a Mac port - the early 90s LucasArts and Sim games all came out for Macs, and the C&C Mac port was actually pretty good (although I preferred the PC version).  I would agree that it doesn't make a ton of business sense at this point, though - contracting an outside studio to do a port when most Mac users can just flip over to Windows or find other workarounds...that's not going to happen.

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Most people don't understand that Macs are for professional work while PC are for games ! Or let me clear that up for you. The only difference is the Operating system. That is what makes one a Mac and the other a PC because inside they are built the same way. They both have a video card, a motherboard, a hard drive etc...

 For this reason its kind of absurd to compare them because the only thing that makes them different is the Operating system. However, a Mac can run both OS and it can run windows natively. There is no way to do any professional audio or video work in Windows but hey there are great games !

That why I use Windows for games on my mac. Very easy to do. When I go on the internet I use MacOS and when I play games I use Windows (Bootcamp) but I don't surf on the internet in Windows so tada! No viruses, I can record, mix edit compose my audio in macos in a professional manner  (by that I mean it wont crash on me every second like in windows) and I get to play Dragon Age in bootcamp. Problem solved.

It all depends on what you do with your computer. If you want only to play games and chat with your friends and change or upgrade computers every one or two years PCs (windows) are fine.

Modifié par Therealdjango, 15 novembre 2009 - 02:19 .