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[Pro_Consul]

Zurcior wrote...

Wait? Isn't a legion 10,000?

Though, Sovereign's estimate isn't reliable... yet.

In the Roman sense a legion was usually somewhere around 6000, give or take. And you are certainly wise not to take the enemy's word for such a thing.

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

No. Sovereign said that their numbers will darken the sky of every world.

He never said their number would darken the skies of all these worlds simultaneously, though. I think he stopped short of that, because it's really embarassing for a super-villain when he loses a false advertising lawsuit. Can you imagine the razzing Sov would have taken the next time he swept into the Evildoers Ease Private Lounge (members only!)? 

Bartender: "Hey Sov, I hear those lawyers took you for a real ride last week." Reaper at end of the bar: "Hey, Sovvie, You know how many lawyers it takes to defeat a Reaper? No, of course you don't, cuz the lawyers just proved you can't even count well enough to know how many Reapers it takes to darken the sky of one world." (aside from neighbor) "He's an even bigger putz than that blowhard Harby, making us look like fools in front of puny mortals like that. Sheesh."

Modifié par Pro_Consul, 08 février 2011 - 08:17 .

[Saren100]

If its over 10000 were doomed

[Iwillbeback]

Well in mass effect 1 there was a organic ship found in 2163 that was considered organic it was estimated a 1 billion years.

And yeah it could of been sovereign acting dead trying to indoctrinate people so he can get to someone powerful enough that could get him what he needed.

Saren was the guy.

That would be at least 20000 cycles[maybe more].

But how many of them was suitable is unknown and how many reapers the reapers make from a race each time it harvest's them is unknown,

And thats it.

[vanslyke85]

It's impossible to guess. We don't know how many there were at the beginning of the Reapers. Maybe some past civilization, lets call them Tiedons, reduced their entire population (we'll say roughly 8 billion) into the first Reaper and it started with just one. But that wouldn't make much sense so they probably started with a few thousand or so. After 37 million years of repeating this process with species every 50,000 years or so their numbers are probably around 300,000-500,000. Obviously we don't know how many have been abandoned and destroyed so it's all just guesses. Hell who knows, it may end up that there's only about 10,000. So many answers for ME3 to come up with lol.

[supakillaii]

`69,105.

But seriously, I amused the thought of actually counting them in the end scene, but then decided not to, since I posted here...

[James2912]

Pro_Consul wrote...

Zurcior wrote...

Wait? Isn't a legion 10,000?

Though, Sovereign's estimate isn't reliable... yet.

In the Roman sense a legion was usually somewhere around 6000, give or take. And you are certainly wise not to take the enemy's word for such a thing.

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

No. Sovereign said that their numbers will darken the sky of every world.

He never said their number would darken the skies of all these worlds simultaneously, though. I think he stopped short of that, because it's really embarassing for a super-villain when he loses a false advertising lawsuit. Can you imagine the razzing Sov would have taken the next time he swept into the Evildoers Ease Private Lounge (members only!)? 

Bartender: "Hey Sov, I hear those lawyers took you for a real ride last week." Reaper at end of the bar: "Hey, Sovvie, You know how many lawyers it takes to defeat a Reaper? No, of course you don't, cuz the lawyers just proved you can't even count well enough to know how many Reapers it takes to darken the sky of one world." (aside from neighbor) "He's an even bigger putz than that blowhard Harby, making us look like fools in front of puny mortals like that. Sheesh."

I know Somebody somewhere on the internets counted every last reaper in the trailer somebody should find that number.

Also I think were going to see a major retcon of the Reapers in ME3 they are going to be a lot easier to kill I betch ya

Modifié par James2912, 08 février 2011 - 10:21 .

[AkiKishi]

NewMessageN00b wrote...

Currently they'd need to reap everything to call it just one civilization. 

And then the "big revelation" that the Collectors will be targeting Earth, and the size of the Collector station kind of suggests that there might be from one to a few per planet. I'd think the empty inside of that ship is where they had built a few. 

Thus more than one per civilization with quite a high certainty in my books. Also that you probably can pile up humans to fill a Reaper form all the human material on Earth, so feels plausible again about that ~1 per planet theory.

But one... per civilization? How comes just one... from so many multi-billion planets. With seemingly more than enough material.

Also consider that your number is a lowest estimate assuming the lowest possible productivity scenario. But I also wonder if the Reapers ever die. If not, then we apparently haven't seen the oldest of them. If yes, then your numbers might hold a bit (but just a bit - still low estimate) more ground, but for now it's all a little magic and plot holes here and there, and rinse and repeat.

Well there has to be a reason why they only pop up every 50k, and there also has to be a reason why they only picked on the Protheans when there were plenty of ther races around at that time as well. Humanity was around a the time too, they had no interest in them. The Reapers are supposed to go for the most advanced race, but humanity is not the most advanced race in the current ME universe I doubt it's even third.

I just went with the known figures but as I said, that the Reapers need to be sneaky indicated there were not enough of them to take on the Protheans head to head.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 08 février 2011 - 10:19 .

[Rivercurse]

Ha, I divided by 50 instead of 50,000. Fail



Ok so round all my other numbers down accordingly.

[rft]

Alot...

Modifié par rft, 08 février 2011 - 11:46 .

[AkiKishi]

rft wrote...




Alot...

If lead Reaper had red headlights he'd look just like a Cylon.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 09 février 2011 - 12:14 .

[Aulis Vaara]

Planet_Side wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

The number of Reapers is the same as the meaning of life.

you mean 42?

42 is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything. It is not the meaning of life.

[Sajuro]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

Planet_Side wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

The number of Reapers is the same as the meaning of life.

you mean 42?

42 is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything. It is not the meaning of life.

What if the question is, what is the meaning of life?

[Sajuro]

rft wrote...




Alot...

I believe the scientific term is: a Sh*tload

[RAF1940]

"Our numbers will darken the skies of every world." - Sovereign

[Exile Isan]

From the numbers we have we can at least say there are 740 Reapers. This of course assumes that they made one Reaper for every cycle and that thee cycle does indeed happen every 50,000 years (which I don't think is does, but hey).

[CapShepard]

rft wrote...




Alot...

"From the cinematic showing the reaper fleet at the end of Mass Effect 2, there are roughly 295 reapers visible"

http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Reaper ("read Trivia")

LOL, can't believe that someone counted them all.

[Exile Isan]

CapShepard wrote...

LOL, can't believe that someone counted them all.

Agreed. I thought about it but, I was too lazy to actually do it.

[JediNg]

BobSmith101 wrote...

NewMessageN00b wrote...

I'd think about >>100000 from just what we see in the cut scenes.

You mean at the end of the game?

I don't think there are that many for this reason. If there were that many Reapers then they would not have to bother with all that subterfuge with the Citadel.

Reaper strategy has been.

1. Use the Citadel as a lure.
2. First strike the Citadel where the governments reside.
3. Take control of the Mass Relays
4. Take out everything system by system.

Those are the tactics of an elite strike force, not a large army.

They are also very efficient strategies which minimize casualties and energy expenditure.  Just a thought.

[Blackbelt749]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Pro_Consul wrote...

I'd guess the low thousands, maybe somewhere between 2000 and 4000. OP, what did you do? Divide 37mil by 50K and figure one new Reaper per cycle? Logical, I guess, if you did.

Pretty much. Although we know they failed once, they likely failed a few more times as well in 37 million years.

We don't know for sure that they failed once. That was EDI's speculation. That doesn't mean for a fact that it happened.

[JG The Gamer]

How many Reapers are there?



Too many.