hey
i know that i shouldnt do it here but the people who thought it whas i problem are here most of the time.
yesterday i posted a question and wrote some stuff about a downloaded version and people became really angry with it.
now i understand before this i more saw downloading more as a petty crime but afther some talk with other people here i now see that illigal downloading is destroying games
i erased the fille and marked it as a fake torrent it wont be used anymore
and for the people who really became angry and ofcours bioware: im sorry for the trouble i caused it wont happen again
(i will erase this post afther 24 hours in case people think im spawwning the forum with nonsense)
i hope i can continou posting/discuss as nothing happend
thing about yesterday
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SkyDragon11
, févr. 08 2011 07:39
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Posté 08 février 2011 - 10:19
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Apology accepted, for me at least. I cant speak for other forumites, mods or Bioware staff.
People tend to be passionate about Bioware games, as they tend to make the best RPG's on the market, and RPG's are becoming a niche in the days where pew-pew shoot em ups are all the rage, and get all the sales.
Not buying the game, while seeming harmeless from one persons perspective, can rapidly become a problem once you realise the amount of people out there who havent paid for it. This directly affects Biowares bottom line, and without that income, their ability to innovate even further in the gaming industry is greatly affected. They have to start reusing engines, tilesets, and visual and audio art. This then starts affecting the people who pay good money for the game. They become disgruntled with the "lack of effort" that has gone into the newer games, the fanbase dimishes, and the companies then find themselves in dire straits, as they no longer have the revenue streams they once had.
In reponse to piracy, companies often then incorporate draconian DRM regimes into their games, which do nothing to prevent piracy apart from slowing the pirates down a day or two, but always ends up punishing the legitimate owners. This is why there was so much anger directed your way when you admitted to what you had done, as you were seen as one of the persons directly responsible for forcing the DRM onto us.
Go along and purchase the game, get the little red 2 under your name, and you will be welcomed into the community with open arms. Its even on sale in a few places so you can get it cheap.
People tend to be passionate about Bioware games, as they tend to make the best RPG's on the market, and RPG's are becoming a niche in the days where pew-pew shoot em ups are all the rage, and get all the sales.
Not buying the game, while seeming harmeless from one persons perspective, can rapidly become a problem once you realise the amount of people out there who havent paid for it. This directly affects Biowares bottom line, and without that income, their ability to innovate even further in the gaming industry is greatly affected. They have to start reusing engines, tilesets, and visual and audio art. This then starts affecting the people who pay good money for the game. They become disgruntled with the "lack of effort" that has gone into the newer games, the fanbase dimishes, and the companies then find themselves in dire straits, as they no longer have the revenue streams they once had.
In reponse to piracy, companies often then incorporate draconian DRM regimes into their games, which do nothing to prevent piracy apart from slowing the pirates down a day or two, but always ends up punishing the legitimate owners. This is why there was so much anger directed your way when you admitted to what you had done, as you were seen as one of the persons directly responsible for forcing the DRM onto us.
Go along and purchase the game, get the little red 2 under your name, and you will be welcomed into the community with open arms. Its even on sale in a few places so you can get it cheap.
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Posté 09 février 2011 - 02:24
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isnt there a way to make an incrackable securetie? or at least one which isnt cracked in less then 3 days by razor or reloaded?
and sure i will buy it € 18 is almost nothing less then 5 hours work for me
still i hope i can use my char of the downloaded ME (didnt delete the save fille) and if not i gues it is an deserved punishment
and sure i will buy it € 18 is almost nothing less then 5 hours work for me
still i hope i can use my char of the downloaded ME (didnt delete the save fille) and if not i gues it is an deserved punishment
Modifié par SkyDragon11, 09 février 2011 - 02:30 .
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Posté 09 février 2011 - 02:37
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There is no incrackable security. You can make better security but the general rule is if somebody can program it somebody can crack it. Criminal groups who crack games are generally very good at it and if they want to crack software they will manage it. However the flipside is in many cases the games won't work as well as a regular copy and suffer more glicthes and problems. For the best quality possible and to support the people who work long hours very hard to bring you these games always stick to a legit copy.
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Posté 09 février 2011 - 02:47
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yes i can vote for that i must say it whas an hell of a job to get the ME2 playable and the DLC whas even more trouble to get running
if there is enough securitie and a downloader need to do many thing to make the game playable
then the inexperienced ones (like me) will quit doing it i gues
but ofcours it would be best if noone would do it at all
if there is enough securitie and a downloader need to do many thing to make the game playable
then the inexperienced ones (like me) will quit doing it i gues
but ofcours it would be best if noone would do it at all
Modifié par SkyDragon11, 09 février 2011 - 02:48 .
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Posté 09 février 2011 - 09:00
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DRM is in the unenviable position of trying to give files to anyone willing to pay for them - and not just give them the bytes, give them meaningful access to it - while somehow also preventing them from having actual control over it. This is particularly difficult when the user has control over the over-arching operating system. As with PC games, or as with consoles that have been hacked. Most security can work on easier principles, like simply locking out anyone who can't be trusted altogether, from any access whatsoever, to all systems altogether. DRM faces tougher (some would say impossible) circumstances.
At any rate, I'm glad to hear you'll buy the game. Even if you didn't care about the morality of it, it simply makes sense to add to the tally of copies bought & money paid for those copies. Helps make sure they can make more of 'em.
At any rate, I'm glad to hear you'll buy the game. Even if you didn't care about the morality of it, it simply makes sense to add to the tally of copies bought & money paid for those copies. Helps make sure they can make more of 'em.
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Posté 09 février 2011 - 10:07
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nice to hear that
stupid question: what is DRM?
maybe i wait for the collection box it would look way nicer to have all 3 in my collection
stupid question: what is DRM?
maybe i wait for the collection box it would look way nicer to have all 3 in my collection
Modifié par SkyDragon11, 09 février 2011 - 10:17 .
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Posté 10 février 2011 - 03:12
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DRM= Digital Rights Media.
The only thing I have even seen that came close to uncrackable security was way back in the old Apple 2 days. There was one game (cant rememeber the name) whose copy protection was almost faultless. People around the world had a go at cracking it, and the best they managed was to be able to crack it so you could make a copy ofthe original, but then unable to copy the copy.
The "successful" copy was then bugged, so you couldnt save, and it crashed on your first death. I havent seen anything that came close to it since. Who would have thought that Apple did something 25 years ago that modern computers can't do.
The only thing I have even seen that came close to uncrackable security was way back in the old Apple 2 days. There was one game (cant rememeber the name) whose copy protection was almost faultless. People around the world had a go at cracking it, and the best they managed was to be able to crack it so you could make a copy ofthe original, but then unable to copy the copy.
The "successful" copy was then bugged, so you couldnt save, and it crashed on your first death. I havent seen anything that came close to it since. Who would have thought that Apple did something 25 years ago that modern computers can't do.
