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[Jenova65]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Is he going to be a truly disturbing LI? Of course. But isn't a dark, sad, heart breaking, tragic, twisted romance usually central to a fantasy plot or story? Look at Morrigan.

Or Twilight............ (<) Or Buffy, or any other vampire movie or similar.
Let's be completely honest here we've been falling in love with soulless demons since we learnt how to tell stories and I must be having a complete logic failure to not get why vampirism in story telling is OK where eating flesh isn't  Confused.................. 

ETA - (I know the top of the page rule, don't panic)

Modifié par Jenova65, 16 février 2011 - 11:42 .

[Distaff Diversity]

I am really, really felicity about Anders being an romance option for the upcoming game. I am curious however. Since he has Justice and himself inhabiting his body, does that mean I am romancing both of them? 0_o Seeing as a hug, kiss or rolling around under the sheets would probably be felt by both of them would it not? I suppose just because one is romancing Anders does not mean one can romance Justice too, but they do share the same body so- hum.

If one was romancing both Justice and Anders, or just Anders, would Justice/Vengence feel disapproval of the relationship or would he be jealous of Anders or maybe hate Hawke? If he hated or disapproved of Hawke's relationship with Anders than that probably means the player is just in an romantic relationship with Anders right?
If they are both sharing the same body and Anders' five senses would they also share feelings for the Hawke? Or would Justice be able to hate Hawke regardless of what Anders' feels for him/her? In the short story Anders' said he is unable to differ between his and then Justice's thoughts or it is hard too. So I guess Anders' and Justice can have completely seperate feelings on the matter of Hawke.

It just seems kind of complicated. Would it not be complicated for Anders? Seeing as two personalities are in his body. I wonder if they can comunicate with each other in their minds? Do they share a mind as they do a body?
And if one was romancing Anders, then Justice also had the hots for Hawke would that make it an threesome or an love triangle? But then again not a threesome seeing as Anders and Justice do not have two bodies.

Would it not be awkward though for Justice if he did not have romantic feelings for Hawke? What if Anders and Hawke are doing it but Justice does not want to do it with Hawke? Hum. But I guess it is Anders' body.
Will Anders' and Justice take control over the body to take turns in a discussion with Hawke? Like if you want to talk to Justice will one be able too? Maybe they shift control or something.

Even if one is not really romancing Justice would it not be awkward for him if he hates Hawke? Anders' doing it with Hawke, and he would be kind of the third wheel. But then again I guess Justice turns into a demon. I wonder what demon Justice's opinion would be on Anders' relationship with Hawke.

I am also wondering if I can romance Anders' as a guy Hawke but probably not. Just because Anders' likes cats and wears robes does not mean he is into the same sex, it would be nice if he was though. Ah well.
Anyway I have been wondering about that all day how Justice reacts to Anders'/Hawke's romantic and sexual relationship. Is it weird if I want them both to develop romantic affections for Hawke? But then maybe that would make Anders' battle for control of his body even more mentally exhausting.

Justice though if Anders was in control of his body, would not he be forced to watch him kissing, hugging and doing it with Hawke? I wonder what that would be feel like. If he hated it it would almost be like ra- Never mind.

Edit: Sharing a body with someone would be really, really confusing probably emotionally and possibly tiring. I would if one personality experiences- Like while Anders' is in control of the body does Justice watch, is he conscious?

Edit: Or does Justice only gain control of Anders when he is really, really peeved and when he is emotionally vulnerable? So when his eyes are glowing blue does that mean that Justice is in control of the body and does his eyes still glow? So when Ander's eyes do not glow than Anders is probably in control.

Edit: The post above me and the picture I just wanted to comment on. Such hot, sexy glowing eyes you have Justice! Ah your atire and self make me melt.  Lol. Kidding.

Modifié par Distaff Diversity, 16 février 2011 - 11:45 .

[Threeparts]

I really don't think the separation between the personalities is as clear-cut as that, Distaff. We see in the short story that he has trouble figuring out with memories belong to which identity, and he considers himself an "I", not a "we". At this point I'm thinking it's Ander's personality in Ander's body, but he responds to certain triggers that cause the Vengeance side of that personality to come to the fore. Not a split personality, but a man that changes into something violent and uncontrolled when one of those switches is flipped.

My take on the information we have so far, of course, but it certainly doesn't seem like he has two whole, complete, and unconnected beings living inside his head.

That said, new page!

Modifié par Threeparts, 16 février 2011 - 11:46 .

[Distaff Diversity]

So if he does not have two complete beings living inside his head then it would not really be an love triangle or threesome or conflict an love triangle between a two person body and Hawke? Hum. So Vengence and Justice are kind of melded then? Hum. So it would not be a split personality thing then. He thinks of himself as I not we so I guess that makes sense.

Edit: I really, really hope Anders' still has an sarcastic amusing sense of humor, he was really funny in awakening but then again I suppose he seemed a little grumpy in that gameplay trailer where he gets peeved when male Hawke visits his temple or whatever. Maybe instead of multiple personality disorder he has lots of mood swings, hum.

Modifié par Distaff Diversity, 16 février 2011 - 11:53 .

[Starflower2525]

De-lurks to say.

Anders possession kind of reminds me of the Tok'Ra,  the Goa'uld totally surpress the host and Vengence hasn't taken total control over Anders.

Modifié par Starflower2525, 16 février 2011 - 04:26 .

[Threeparts]

Distaff Diversity wrote...

So if he does not have two complete beings living inside his head then it would not really be an love triangle or threesome or conflict an love triangle between a two person body and Hawke? Hum. So Vengence and Justice are kind of melded then? Hum. So it would not be a split personality thing then. He thinks of himself as I not we so I guess that makes sense.

Edit: I really, really hope Anders' still has an sarcastic amusing sense of humor, he was really funny in awakening but then again I suppose he seemed a little grumpy in that gameplay trailer where he gets peeved when male Hawke visits his temple or whatever. Maybe instead of multiple personality disorder he has lots of mood swings, hum.

I'm not guaranteeing that he won't have a split personality - Maker knows Jennifer Hepler is capable of surprising us all - but that's how it appears to me.
As for his sense of humour, his writer has confirmed that he's still just as snarky as we remember. 

[Distaff Diversity]

What does de-lurk mean?



And ah yes. I have seen some episodes of Star Gate SG 1. Their voices go strange when the Goa'uld, the thing is talking and then when the host is talking they talk normal. So maybe when Vengence is in control his eyes are blue or just coloured and when the host Anders is in control his eyes will be normal? Hum. But that is a good comparision! I wonder if Vengence's and Ander's voices are going to be different when either one of them is talking.



And if Vengence has not taken total control over Anders' would that mean they are two seperate beings in one body? Or maybe Vengence is in the fade while Anders' is in control?

[Distaff Diversity]

Threeparts wrote...

I'm not guaranteeing that he won't have a split personality - Maker knows Jennifer Hepler is capable of surprising us all - but that's how it appears to me.
As for his sense of humour, his writer has confirmed that he's still just as snarky as we remember. 

It does appear that he does not have a split personality right now. If he did then it would make the relationship between Hawke and Anders' more complex, if there were two beings' instead of one like it almost seems like right now- hum. Two beings in one body would complicate a relationship and make it more interesting!

Oh good, good. I am glad he is as sexily snarky as ever!

Edit: I guess we will not really know if Anders' seperates himself mentally from Vengence or not. If he thought of himself as 'we' then his eyes might glow whenever Vengence is in control, he might sound different and then Anders' would look and talk normal if he was in control. But your right the amount of seperation between them is not totally clear-cut, they are sharing one body after all

Modifié par Distaff Diversity, 16 février 2011 - 12:11 .

[Starflower2525]

I usually tend to stay in the background because I am very shy

[Distaff Diversity]

Starflower2525 wrote...

I usually tend to stay in the background because I am very shy

 
Shyness is usually a mask for a very fascinating personality.

I like to lurk on forums too especially a few ones I have in mind. Hum. Memories.

I wonder if Anders' is shy now, he seemed grumpy and glowing when you invade his temple or something.

[SuiteAces]

If it is like Stargate SG1, then if it were more benevolent then it would be more like the Tok'ra, but if it is Justice/Vengeance trying to take over then yes very, very Goa'uld. Though for some reason I got a mental image of the Ori human hosts.



I am really going to be intrigued to see how they develop the Anders/Justice duo.

[Distaff Diversity]

Yes indeed it will be very fascinating to see in the game how they develop the duo of them together. It makes me want the game even more. What will the two of them be like in one body together? Is Anders' bisexual or not? What will the dialogue be like? When I have questions like this, I am glad the devs do not answer all of them because my curiousity will be satisfied when I play the game. The more longing I have for the questions to be answered the more I want to play the game! Ah the beauty of unanswered curiousity.

[SuiteAces]

Yeah, I was avoiding the forums for such a long time just so that I didn't get overhyped too many months before the release date, but now that the "end is nigh" I can let myself get psyched. My Warden was too loyal to Alistair to even flirt with Anders (all my Wardens were very monogamous), but my very single Hawke will try to have him/(them?) all to herself.

[Distaff Diversity]

Ah seeing as being psyced for only a short while is not so bad, being psyced two years is not so fun and I can see that it is a good idea.

He, he. I think a lot of very single Hawkes in alternate universes will be having their ways with Anders, unless of course they are guys, but then again Anders might be bi. I wonder if Vengence will complicate a Hawke's relationship with Anders. Hum.

Modifié par Distaff Diversity, 16 février 2011 - 12:32 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

Distaff Diversity wrote...

Ah seeing as being psyced for only a short while is not so bad, being psyced two years is not so fun and I can see that it is a good idea.

He, he. I think a lot of very single Hawkes in alternate universes will be having their ways with Anders, unless of course they are guys, but then again Anders might be bi. I wonder if Vengence will complicate a Hawke's relationship with Anders. Hum.

Oh I'm sure.  If Hawke strays from Vengeance's goal or distracts Anders too much, he could start really trying to take complete control perhaps?  Or perhaps knowing that Vengeance is there will make Anders nervous about getting too close to Hawke, being afraid that he might hurt her (or him, we don't know )?

[Distaff Diversity]

And then if Vengence strives for complete control, I guess there will be no more doing it for the two of them? Vengence is probably more interested in Vengence than in sex.



Hum. I suppose there are a number of valid reasons for the possibility of Anders' fears of hurting her because of a romantic relationship. I just hope he does not get distant, or want to be away from her so badly because he is afraid of hurting her. Like with Twilight. Was not Edward afraid of eating her? Not that Vengence will eat Hawke, or will he? Hum.. LOL.



Hum. I wonder why Anders would be afraid of hurting Vengeance? Would it be for some manly affections for Vengeance? That would be weird. Hawke and Vengeane vying for the attentions of Anders.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Distaff Diversity wrote...

And then if Vengence strives for complete control, I guess there will be no more doing it for the two of them? Vengence is probably more interested in Vengence than in sex.

Hum. I suppose there are a number of valid reasons for the possibility of Anders' fears of hurting her because of a romantic relationship. I just hope he does not get distant, or want to be away from her so badly because he is afraid of hurting her. Like with Twilight. Was not Edward afraid of eating her? Not that Vengence will eat Hawke, or will he? Hum.. LOL.

Hum. I wonder why Anders would be afraid of hurting Vengeance? Would it be for some manly affections for Vengeance? That would be weird. Hawke and Vengeane vying for the attentions of Anders.

Like I've said before, I'm sure Anders is going to have a huge hurdle to cross (ie, personal quest), and it'll be up to Hawke whether or not he will make it.  ... Or else we'll have to spec another character to heal because he's the only healer spec as far as I know.  LOL.

Healers never seem to have it easy...

[SurelyForth]

Oh, god. I really hope that there isn't some secret trigger you can pull fairly early on in the game that makes certain happy endings impossible without metagaming, like Alistair and his hardening quest.

Anders: ...what are you going to do, Hawke? Will you let me Vengeance Bomb the Chantry, thus killing myself, or will you take my life yourself to spare innocents?
Hawke: How about neither? How about we go in together, kick some ass, survive, and then...move to the country? We talked about that once; it would be quieter and less Vengeance inducing, remember? We should do that. Definitely.
Anders: No, this is the only way.
Hawke: Since when?
Anders: Since the first thing you said to me was "Anders, I presume?"
Hawke: O_o
Hawke: That was 9 years ago!
SurelyForth: That was 45 hours ago!
SurelyForth: *tears cellophane off of the game guide and tears through looking for Anders' character profile*
DA2 Game Guide: "It is critical to immediately assure Anders that you have no ill will towards him nor his refugees before you begin pursuing his quest. Otherwise, he will never fully trust you and will always insists on sacrificing himself in the end, unless Hawke chooses to kill him."
SurelyForth: o_O
SurelyForth: ****.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 16 février 2011 - 01:30 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

SurelyForth wrote...

Oh, god. I really hope that there isn't some secret trigger you can pull fairly early on in the game that makes certain happy endings impossible without metagaming, like Alistair and his hardening quest.

Anders: ...what are you going to do, Hawke? Will you let me Vengeance Bomb the Chantry, thus killing myself, or will you take my life yourself to spare innocents?
Hawke: How about neither? How about we go in together, kick some ass, survive, and then...move to the country? We talked about that once; it would be quieter and less Vengeance inducing, remember? We should do that. Definitely.
Anders: No, this is the only way.
Hawke: Since when?
Anders: Since the first thing you said to me was "Anders, I presume?"
Hawke: O_o
Hawke: That was 9 years ago!
SurelyForth: That was 45 hours ago!
SurelyForth: *tears cellophane off of the game guide and tears through looking for Anders' character profile*
DA2 Game Guide: "It is critical to immediately assure Anders that you have no ill will towards him nor his refugees before you begin pursuing his quest. Otherwise, he will never fully trust you and will always insists on sacrificing himself in the end, unless Hawke chooses to kill him."
SurelyForth: o_O
SurelyForth: ****.

LOL I would totally flip a table.  But that also made me laugh.  

[Distaff Diversity]

Doctors do not seem to have it easy either, look at House he turned into a grumpy old sot but then again he has a hot girlfriend and a hot heterosexual sefless life partner to keep him company so nevermind. Maybe healers in the real world have it easy but sexy Anders, seeing as he is possessed by a demon, no healers never have it easy.



That would suck, some mistake one makes at the beginning of the game to fook up an relationship is never fun.

[Distaff Diversity]

RinjiRenee wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Oh, god. I really hope that there isn't some secret trigger you can pull fairly early on in the game that makes certain happy endings impossible without metagaming, like Alistair and his hardening quest.

Anders: ...what are you going to do, Hawke? Will you let me Vengeance Bomb the Chantry, thus killing myself, or will you take my life yourself to spare innocents?
Hawke: How about neither? How about we go in together, kick some ass, survive, and then...move to the country? We talked about that once; it would be quieter and less Vengeance inducing, remember? We should do that. Definitely.
Anders: No, this is the only way.
Hawke: Since when?
Anders: Since the first thing you said to me was "Anders, I presume?"
Hawke: O_o
Hawke: That was 9 years ago!
SurelyForth: That was 45 hours ago!
SurelyForth: *tears cellophane off of the game guide and tears through looking for Anders' character profile*
DA2 Game Guide: "It is critical to immediately assure Anders that you have no ill will towards him nor his refugees before you begin pursuing his quest. Otherwise, he will never fully trust you and will always insists on sacrificing himself in the end, unless Hawke chooses to kill him."
SurelyForth: o_O
SurelyForth: ****.

LOL I would totally flip a table.  But that also made me laugh.  

Lol. That took me a second to get. I am not as quick-witted as I thunk. Awe.

[Distaff Diversity]

If Anders was a dwarf, would we still want to romance him? But then again he would not be a mage or have his values and purpose nor would we- never mind.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Oh boy, not that again.

[Minxie]

Taleroth wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...
LotS ftw!

How can you act happy?!

*cries*

Wut?

No season 3.  Don't tell me you're just now hearing about it!

Ohh, I get you now. (sorry about how late I'm responding - I'd just gone to bed when you replied )
I wish there was a season 3, too...

Distaff Diversity wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

I'm
not guaranteeing that he won't have a split personality - Maker knows
Jennifer Hepler is capable of surprising us all - but that's how it
appears to me.
As for his sense of humour, his writer has confirmed that he's still just as snarky as we remember. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

It
does appear that he does not have a split personality right now. If he
did then it would make the relationship between Hawke and Anders' more
complex, if there were two beings' instead of one like it almost seems
like right now- hum. Two beings in one body would complicate a
relationship and make it more interesting!

Oh good, good. I am glad he is as sexily snarky as ever!

Edit:
I guess we will not really know if Anders' seperates himself mentally
from Vengence or not. If he thought of himself as 'we' then his eyes
might glow whenever Vengence is in control, he might sound different
and then Anders' would look and talk normal if he was in control. But
your right the amount of seperation between them is not totally
clear-cut, they are sharing one body after all

Why am I starting to think that the Anders romance is going to involve a lot of mixed signals? Hawke is going to be so confused and frustrated.

Modifié par Minxie18, 16 février 2011 - 02:51 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

Haha, I think all the LIs are going to have their struggles... Anders is a bit of a special case though. It all depends on how much Ms. Helper wanted to wring our hearts. I think she's bloody brilliant.