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[syllogi]

Personally, it makes sense for my mage Hawke to think the Chantry sucks and the Circle of Magi blows. She was raised by an apostate parent, and if she loves her family, she knows that they would be torn apart if she had been sent to the Circle.



Meanwhile, my mage Amell ratted Jowan out to Irving immediately, because she loves the Circle and thought he was crazy for trying to escape.



I will eventually play a warrior character who is greatly upset by Carver's death and thinks that mages ought to go to the Circle for training, and it's not such a terrible thing. She'll be at odds with Bethany...and I'm sure her relationship with Anders will be strained, at best.

[SurelyForth]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Depends.  Not all Chantry followers are what some would consider bad people.  I question their practices, especially when it comes to the Templar thing.  But I'm sure they're going to make that decision much harder than many expect.

Also, I think Anders still believes in the Maker?  Anyone's thoughts on that?

From the way he talks at the Lyrium Bucket in Kal'Hirol, he believes in the Maker and was raised an Andrastian. However, he seems very much like someone who has drifted away from religion or who is confused/put off by the gap between who Andraste was/what she wanted and what is being done in her name.

[HolyJellyfish]

Having a sense of humor about the subject also never, ever hurts. Its just a character, keep in mind..



... a freaking twisted awesome piece of mage sauce character...

[Rinji the Bearded]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Oh sure, I was just pointing out that anti-Chantry isn't remotely as out there as pro-cannibal.  Not that I think anyone here is actively the latter.

Definitely not, to be certain. *suspciously looks at the others... *  Vengeance/Anders has not really made me reconsider my stance on the issue of eating human flesh.  Still quite squicked, but intrigued by this plot twist all the same.  Ms. Helper is so good at that!

[Jean]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

I miss the former. One of my Wardens got a rose from Alistair in front of the entire Proving crowd. It was magical for them, I'm sure.

Once I got the rose during the Redcliff zombie invasion.  Nothing sets the mood like flaming zombies and dying knights.

I think you win the worst timing award. Unless someone got him to give it in front of the broodmother corpse. Anyone?

OH! OH! ME ME ME ME!

It was the most romantic gesture ever.


... Will DAII LIs give us gifts?

[SurelyForth]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Having a sense of humor about the subject also never, ever hurts. Its just a character, keep in mind..

... a freaking twisted awesome piece of mage sauce character...

This is the truest true.

[ThatDancingTurian]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Depends.  Not all Chantry followers are what some would consider bad people.  I question their practices, especially when it comes to the Templar thing.  But I'm sure they're going to make that decision much harder than many expect.

Also, I think Anders still believes in the Maker?  Anyone's thoughts on that?

I for one am interested to find out how that will be handled. Do you think as time goes by and Vengeance becomes stronger within Anders, that he'll stop focusing solely on the Templars who hunt mages and turn his hate onto anyone who works for the Chantry at all? What about anyone who invokes the name of the Maker? What about the Maker himself? This downward spiral is going to be so depressing, but I'm desperate to know more.

I think my own apostate Hawke will be like my Amell Warden. She believes in the Maker full well, but that doesn't mean she'll ally herself to people who would use his name to gain power and abuse their fellow men. It's up to the Maker to judge her if she's wrong, she won't take condemnation from those who are human just the same as she is.

Batteries wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I think you win the worst timing award. Unless someone got him to give it in front of the broodmother corpse. Anyone?

OH! OH! ME ME ME ME!

It was the most romantic gesture ever.


... Will DAII LIs give us gifts?

Oh Alistair, that softy. At least the Warden had something to put under her nose to counteract the smell...

I have to wonder what any of the LIs might consider good gifts... Anders already lost his earring, so I guess we won't have a Zevran repeat.

[upsettingshorts]

Mash Mashington wrote...

it was sarcasm aimed at pointing out that cannibalism issue is not the biggest part of Ander's character

yeah,

Where did I say it was?  It's the part - regardless of its "size" - that has the most potentially disturbing implications.  

Also it's not like this is a random Codex entry or off-hand comment by Varric about the one time Anders nibbled on a corpse.  This was revealed in a short story posted for the explicit purpose of introducing us to the romance options in Dragon Age 2.  

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 16 février 2011 - 09:14 .

[Sabriel.]

SurelyForth wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Depends.  Not all Chantry followers are what some would consider bad people.  I question their practices, especially when it comes to the Templar thing.  But I'm sure they're going to make that decision much harder than many expect.

Also, I think Anders still believes in the Maker?  Anyone's thoughts on that?

From the way he talks at the Lyrium Bucket in Kal'Hirol, he believes in the Maker and was raised an Andrastian. However, he seems very much like someone who has drifted away from religion or who is confused/put off by the gap between who Andraste was/what she wanted and what is being done in her name.

Yeah, from the quote on his character page to what he says in the short story, Awakening etc., I think he does still believe in the Maker. His issue seems to be more with the Chantry as an institution, with twisting Andraste's words to imprison the mages who their own Maker has supposedly created. It's not an uncommon view in the real world as well--belief in a particular faith, but disillusionment with how the institution "in charge" handles it or enforces it.

Modifié par Mynnymac, 16 février 2011 - 09:14 .

[Dave of Canada]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Do you think as time goes by and Vengeance becomes stronger within Anders, that he'll stop focusing solely on the Templars who hunt mages and turn his hate onto anyone who works for the Chantry at all?

Chris Priestly wrote...

They will all die. Every templar, every holy sister who stands in the way of our freedom will die in agony and their deaths will be our fuel. We will have justice. We will have vengeance.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 16 février 2011 - 09:14 .

[HolyJellyfish]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Do you think as time goes by and Vengeance becomes stronger within Anders, that he'll stop focusing solely on the Templars who hunt mages and turn his hate onto anyone who works for the Chantry at all?

Chris Priestly wrote...

They will all die. Every templar, every holy sister who stands in the way of our freedom will die in agony and their deaths will be our fuel. We will have justice. We will have vengeance.

I AM SO EXCITED FOR HIM! He's like Dexter, Two Face, and The Crow wrapped into a tight package of someone struggling between what is right and wrong with strong implications of WORLD CHANGING HAWKE CHOICES !!!!  

:O:O

[Rinji the Bearded]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Having a sense of humor about the subject also never, ever hurts. Its just a character, keep in mind..

... a freaking twisted awesome piece of mage sauce character...

You know, someone this dark would make even Morrigan quirk an eyebrow I think.  For a second.  Then she'd just handwave the Circle Mages completely.

... Mmm, mage sauce.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

This was revealed in a short story posted for the explicit purpose of introducing us to the romance options in Dragon Age 2.  

I am wary of the option for Hawke to suck face with a man who may have ingested face.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 16 février 2011 - 09:20 .

[dirtsa90]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Do you think as time goes by and Vengeance becomes stronger within Anders, that he'll stop focusing solely on the Templars who hunt mages and turn his hate onto anyone who works for the Chantry at all?

Chris Priestly wrote...

They will all die. Every templar, every holy sister who stands in the way of our freedom will die in agony and their deaths will be our fuel. We will have justice. We will have vengeance.

That part did freak me out a little bit, along with the whole "eating flesh" part.. I really hope we'll somehow be able to exorcism Vengeance out of Anders or something like that without killing him(Anders)..

[Godzilla2k9]

Is there any video clips of anders?

[Jessihatt]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I AM SO EXCITED FOR HIM! He's like Dexter, Two Face, and The Crow wrapped into a tight package of someone struggling between what is right and wrong with strong implications of WORLD CHANGING HAWKE CHOICES !!!!  

:O:O

Umpf.. Anders as a companion with a delicious Dexter twist. 

[ThatDancingTurian]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Do you think as time goes by and Vengeance becomes stronger within Anders, that he'll stop focusing solely on the Templars who hunt mages and turn his hate onto anyone who works for the Chantry at all?

Chris Priestly wrote...

They will all die. Every templar, every holy sister who stands in the way of our freedom will die in agony and their deaths will be our fuel. We will have justice. We will have vengeance.

I read that, but I wondered if he meant sisters specifically working with the templars or just those old ladies talking about ham in the courtyard. There are also lay sisters, initiates, younglings orphans about to become initiates... I'm just wondering where Vengeance draws the line, or rather if there is a line at all.

EDIT:

Godzilla2k9 wrote...

Is there any video clips of anders?

Yep!

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 16 février 2011 - 09:20 .

[tmp7704]

Pseudocognition wrote...

I am wary of the option for Hawke to suck face with a man who may have ingested face.

It can make one think twice about french kissing, at least.

[HolyJellyfish]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

This was revealed in a short story posted for the explicit purpose of introducing us to the romance options in Dragon Age 2.  

I am wary of the option for Hawke to suck face with a man who may have ingested face.

It'll be AWESOME and FANTASTIC!

Besides. It looks like Isabela is there for the more level headed and less extreme.

[Godzilla2k9]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Do you think as time goes by and Vengeance becomes stronger within Anders, that he'll stop focusing solely on the Templars who hunt mages and turn his hate onto anyone who works for the Chantry at all?

Chris Priestly wrote...

They will all die. Every templar, every holy sister who stands in the way of our freedom will die in agony and their deaths will be our fuel. We will have justice. We will have vengeance.

I read that, but I wondered if he meant sisters specifically working with the templars or just those old ladies talking about ham in the courtyard. There are also lay sisters, initiates, younglings orphans about to become initiates... I'm just wondering where Vengeance draws the line, or rather if there is a line at all.

EDIT:

Godzilla2k9 wrote...

Is there any video clips of anders?

Yep!

Thanks for the quick reply

[tmp7704]

Mash Mashington wrote...

But face-eating moments would be so delicious, omnomnom

Well, if qunari mages can go tongue-less then i guess Hawke can learn to live with that, too.

[Eshaye]

Miri1984 wrote...

OMG I WAS ASLEEP FOR NINE HOURS AND YOU GUYS ARE STILL ON ABOUT THIS?

We need to start a new "Anders is a Cannibal" thread. Go there and duke it out.

That was my reaction just now too.