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Miri1984 wrote...

catabuca wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

@Trophonius I... may have written an Anders/Cullen one shot for a prompt once.. maybe....

DEFINITELY NSFW


That ... was ... fantastic.




*blush* Many thanks. It was certainly one of the most fun things to write I've ever done.


And it was, *ahem*, pretty fun to read too :blush:

It's the only Anders/Cullen fic I've read (haven't found any others). Such an obvious pairing, yet so sadly overlooked.

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AndersIsLush wrote...

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Page 200, yay! And to celebrate...

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Ohbby

amazing pic

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Miri1984 wrote...

@rak72 Wasn't belittling anyone. Sorry if you were offended :)


NP, I always liked Anders, and some of my charactres would have gone much better with him than Alistair.  My first run, I plan to do a Hawk version of my mage that I always wanted to romance him with.  But no one will ever replace my Alibear for me.

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I am going to make a lot of fangirls mad at me by steering the discussion AWAY from sex and romance.

Now. Maybe this was discussed earlier on here, but I haven't been around, so I don't know. But, the DAge wiki I consult lists a new voice for Anders. On his Facebook page, Greg Ellis said, more or less, "Yes, I'm back" when a fan asked. So WHAT IS GOING ON!? Who is Anders going to sound like?!?!

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@rak72 I still have a massive soft spot for Alistair, I'll admit. It's very VERY hard to do the Zev romance with a girl for me. I always tend to pair him with my m!wardens because Alistair makes those puppy dog eyes at the fem ones and I'm lost...

That said, however, on my first import to Awakenings my Queen Cousland was regretting her marriage vows. QUITE a bit :)

@Tatooine Yes, sadly, Greg isn't voicing Anders. David Gaider has suggested they may have done some recording with him but abandoned it later, which is why Greg isn't aware that he's not voicing Anders. There's also been suggestions that his VA was changed for plot spoilery reasons, which is another possibility for why Greg hasn't said anything more on his Facebook page regarding the change. So.

OH and if you want to hear what he sounds like: At about 3 minutes he plays Silas in Leliana's Song.

Modifié par Miri1984, 28 février 2011 - 09:55 .


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You can find it buried but a dev said they did get Greg to do voice but apparently they changed their minds and used another VAs lines instead.

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Blessed Silence wrote...

You can find it buried but a dev said they did get Greg to do voice but apparently they changed their minds and used another VAs lines instead.


I'm going to go growl and gnash my teeth now. Excuse me.

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Also, regarding the VA switch, I had it in my head that there's a plot-awesome reason for it. My thought was that this new dude is the Anders/Justice hybrid, but if part of the romance involves freeing him somehow, THEN Anders' proper voice comes back. Just a thought, though likely an inaccurate one.

I'm a sucker for a good voice; what can I say? I mean, I ran aaaaall the way from Denerim to the Circle Tower (post-Broken Circle) and searched all throughout the tower just to find Cullen and hear him say one more line of dialogue. *siiiiiiigh*

Reminds me that I'm ever so pleased with M!Hawke's voice. Rawr.

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Miri1984 wrote...

@rak72 I still have a massive soft spot for Alistair, I'll admit. It's very VERY hard to do the Zev romance with a girl for me. I always tend to pair him with my m!wardens because Alistair makes those puppy dog eyes at the fem ones and I'm lost...

That said, however, on my first import to Awakenings my Queen Cousland was regretting her marriage vows. QUITE a bit :)

Gonna have to agree with this whole thing...but it inspired me to make an Amell who was without an LI at the end of Origins though...

#5035
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Miri1984 wrote...



@Tatooine Yes, sadly, Greg isn't voicing Anders....


Still not over it.

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Tatooine92 wrote...

I am going to make a lot of fangirls mad at me by steering the discussion AWAY from sex and romance.

Now. Maybe this was discussed earlier on here, but I haven't been around, so I don't know. But, the DAge wiki I consult lists a new voice for Anders. On his Facebook page, Greg Ellis said, more or less, "Yes, I'm back" when a fan asked. So WHAT IS GOING ON!? Who is Anders going to sound like?!?!


No talking about sex and romance?  Does... not... compute.

I don't claim to know anything about Greg Ellis or voice acting, but I honestly suspect that he just didn't know what's going on when he confirmed his return as Anders.  He's indicated that he doesn't play the games, and I think VAs are generally just given their own lines to read, with maybe a lead-in line if needed.  If it's something he was just doing for a paycheck, then it's highly possible he got confused about exactly what lines he was reading and as which character.

There's a possibility he'll make an appearance as Cullen, so he could very well have gotten the 2 mixed up.  They're different characters, but both very connected to the mage/templar plot and possibly easy for a non-fan to mix up.  He very well could have thought "Oh, I read some lines about magic and stuff, I guess I'm that guy again."

There's also the theory that he did record lines for Anders but the devs decided it wasn't right and found someone different.  I personally think that's less likely, just because it'd be expensive to re-record an entire character's dialogue.

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leggywillow wrote...

Tatooine92 wrote...

I am going to make a lot of fangirls mad at me by steering the discussion AWAY from sex and romance.

Now. Maybe this was discussed earlier on here, but I haven't been around, so I don't know. But, the DAge wiki I consult lists a new voice for Anders. On his Facebook page, Greg Ellis said, more or less, "Yes, I'm back" when a fan asked. So WHAT IS GOING ON!? Who is Anders going to sound like?!?!


No talking about sex and romance?  Does... not... compute.

I don't claim to know anything about Greg Ellis or voice acting, but I honestly suspect that he just didn't know what's going on when he confirmed his return as Anders.  He's indicated that he doesn't play the games, and I think VAs are generally just given their own lines to read, with maybe a lead-in line if needed.  If it's something he was just doing for a paycheck, then it's highly possible he got confused about exactly what lines he was reading and as which character.

There's a possibility he'll make an appearance as Cullen, so he could very well have gotten the 2 mixed up.  They're different characters, but both very connected to the mage/templar plot and possibly easy for a non-fan to mix up.  He very well could have thought "Oh, I read some lines about magic and stuff, I guess I'm that guy again."

There's also the theory that he did record lines for Anders but the devs decided it wasn't right and found someone different.  I personally think that's less likely, just because it'd be expensive to re-record an entire character's dialogue.


I have had a crappy day, and your "does... not... computer" made me LOL. Thank you.

I didn't think of the confusion side. I guess I figured that we fans were SO CLOSE to making a player out of him. He sounded surprised that we liked it that much, asked what platforms it's on, and that was the last I heard. Someone I know personally even said "Pleeeeeease just play Awakening!" in about as many words but with fewer E's.

Oooh, I would forgive the devs immediately if Cullen gets a cameo. I really would. I never used to like him until I saw the most adorbz piece of fem!mage/Cullen art EVER. *squish* He's adorable. Do want.

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I'm just thinking the reasons why Anders changed VO. Don't know if it was mentioned by someone else but in Awakening, it is our Warden's story and the Warden met Anders during the story. In DA2's case, Varric is the one relaying the information to Cassandra of his encounter with Anders and of the Champions. And from my impression of the demo, it seemed like Varric/Cassandra story of the Champion is told a few years later minimum (the building up of the legend and people not knowing what Hawke looks like). Although Varric had witnessed most of the events happened from the rise of the Champion there will always be missing information whenever telling recounts of someone's life, especially a few years or even a few months later (coming from a historian perspective).

So I think the Anders changing VO scenario was due to Varric's telling the story from his perspective distorted over time, rather than our Warden's perspective.

Modifié par Alexine, 28 février 2011 - 10:21 .


#5039
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@Alexine - This is off-topic, but your Hawke signature is EPIC. I've sat here laughing for five minutes!

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I'm interested to see what romancing Anders as a non-mage Hawke is going to be like. From what we see in Awakening Anders isn't really used to non-mages outside of the party treating him like a human being.

Meanwhile we have Hawke, who has been exposed to magic for her entire life and considers it a perfectly normal part of life instead of this dangerous, demonic power that the Chantry considers it to be.

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Hey guys, I made more companion sigs here.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm interested to see what romancing Anders as a non-mage Hawke is going to be like. From what we see in Awakening Anders isn't really used to non-mages outside of the party treating him like a human being.


I do hope that would change depending on your Warden's relationship with Anders in Awakening. I think if your non-mage Warden was in a friendship with Anders, I think Anders will loosen up slightly, but not much since he's now has to deal with the Spirit of Vengeance.

Tatooine92 wrote...

@Alexine - This is off-topic, but your Hawke signature is EPIC. I've sat here laughing for five minutes!


Thanks. But I didn't make them. there was a post on it before a few months back.

Modifié par Alexine, 28 février 2011 - 10:35 .


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Mynnymac wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...
I figured there might be more tracks not listed there... Why would Fenris be the only companion to get his own theme? 


Like I said, the soundtrack we're getting on March 8th is "Part One." I don't remember which article exactly, but someone posted one last week saying "Part Two" will be coming in April-ish and "Part Three" in June/July-ish. Why they are doing that, I have no idea. But at least Part One is only four bucks for a half hour of music, so...hopefully we'll get our Anders theme "eventually."

And Happy 200 pages! :wizard:


I am getting the signature edition, I'm pretty sure it comes with the full soundtrack. :huh:

Is it bad a lot of the music reminds me of Zelda? :wizard:

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Miri1984 wrote...

@Trophonius I... may have written an Anders/Cullen one shot for a prompt once.. maybe....

DEFINITELY NSFW[

oh...oh my...

#5045
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Tatooine92 wrote...

I
didn't think of the confusion side. I guess I figured that we fans were
SO CLOSE to making a player out of him. He sounded surprised that we
liked it that much, asked what platforms it's on, and that was the last I
heard. Someone I know personally even said "Pleeeeeease just
play Awakening!" in about as many words but with fewer E's.


Hopefully he'll become a believer/fan!  It wouldn't surprise me if most actors didn't take video game roles very seriously or find them particularly interesting, since critically they aren't considered much of an "art form" (Poop on you, Roger Ebert.).  I don't think the public at large and mass media consider them strong vehicles for characterization and storytelling, so I can easily picture an actor taking on a VA role in a game without giving much thought to the character.

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm interested to see what romancing Anders as a non-mage Hawke is going to be like. From what we see in Awakening Anders isn't really used to non-mages outside of the party treating him like a human being.

Meanwhile
we have Hawke, who has been exposed to magic for her entire life and
considers it a perfectly normal part of life instead of this dangerous,
demonic power that the Chantry considers it to be.


Me too!  I think my "canon" Hawke is going to be a non-mage, because I really like the idea of that relationship dynamic.  (Of course, I'll have a zillion Hawkes, so Anders will get to try every class! ;))

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Batteries wrote...

Mynnymac wrote...

Like I said, the soundtrack we're getting on March 8th is "Part One." I don't remember which article exactly, but someone posted one last week saying "Part Two" will be coming in April-ish and "Part Three" in June/July-ish. Why they are doing that, I have no idea. But at least Part One is only four bucks for a half hour of music, so...hopefully we'll get our Anders theme "eventually."


I am getting the signature edition, I'm pretty sure it comes with the full soundtrack. :huh:

Is it bad a lot of the music reminds me of Zelda? :wizard:


Yeah, I don't really know how that works. But for the non-SE people, we get it in three installments apparently. >.>

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Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who's not over the fact Greg isn't voicing Anders. I'm guessing they're trying to make a Justice/Anders hybrid voice? Yeah......

:/

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panamakira wrote...

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who's not over the fact Greg isn't voicing Anders. I'm guessing they're trying to make a Justice/Anders hybrid voice? Yeah......

:/


I hope it's not an excuse for making him sound tortured instead of cheerful.

I know he won't be as cheerful now, but still. Not too heavy on the angst.

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Howden can do cheerful and snarky as well. There were a few links to other samples of his voice a while back. Silas was a very dark character, so the bits from Leliana's Song show his sombre voice rather than anything else.

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Miri1984 wrote...

Howden can do cheerful and snarky as well. There were a few links to other samples of his voice a while back. Silas was a very dark character, so the bits from Leliana's Song show his sombre voice rather than anything else.


NOW I remember Silas!! I remember thinking "Man, he's kinda hot."

Then again, I think LOTS of men are hot. I'm a bad, bad girl.