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[Eshaye]

Vengeance?

Oh snap... This is juicy.

Modifié par Eshaye, 08 février 2011 - 11:14 .

[Wikal]

Justice and Anders in one?



...



there is just so much awesome here I can't even comprehend it.

[Kyda]

megaz635 wrote...

Hopefully you could remove the vengenance spirit or revert it back to justice.

If you don't get rid of it, Lady Hawke will have a hard time to get Anders to bed her.

Not
to mention it would be extremely awkward if Justice suddenly pops up... 

[Spartansfan8888]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Spartansfan8888 wrote...

I agree with you there... I think a spirit of faith is very compatible with Wynne so there would be no conflict there.  Anders, however, while he is a good person seems like he plays by his own rules which would not mix well with Justice

It´s spirit of Justice, not spirit of Law. I don´t think it has anything to do with following the rules, but Anders being so angry at the way Chantry treates mages that his most powerful feeling is rage. It´s funny (well, it isn´t) but in some way that acted as the DS of the Force when Justice went into him

All I meant was that perhaps Wynne and her spirit had very similar feelings/beliefs and that is why the spirit did not change at all while Justice did not see the resentment Anders had for the Chantry, assuming he had intentions of justice and not personal vengeance, before joining him making them dissimilar and corrupting Justice.

[Phazor58]

I'm interested in how the heck Anders got possessed in the first place.

[Isaidlunch]

So he's Vengeance now? I don't want to find out what happens if you cheat on Anders...



I'm very excited to see what they've done with both Anders + Justice. Justice especially, I felt like so much more could have been done with his character and I'm glad he gets that chance in DA2.

[Saibh]

I cannot believe it. I cannot believe it. This is ridiculous.

I was angry dammit! I was righteously indignated! "Four returning companions?", I moaned. "How could you do this to me?", I cried. "Couldn't you have at least had a different Spirit possessing him?" I wailed.

So, what is this insult? Adding a genius twist to subvert my Outrage of Righteousness? I won't have it, I tell you!

Modifié par Saibh, 08 février 2011 - 11:15 .

[agrocato]

This new Anders leaves me a puzzled:

The major trait of Anders in DAA was his urge to be free. And that very same person should be willing to give away control over his body and mind to a spirit??? This is perhaps the most extreme loss of freedom imaginable!

By becoming a warden Anders was finally free from the circle. Moreover, he never seemed like the hateful type. But  now he suddenly decides that he hates the circle and has to crush it???

Finally, Anders dislike/hate seemed directed at the templars not the circle. It's the templar that are hunting him, not the circle. Why the shift?

All of this seems completely out of character for Anders! I don't buy it.


One more thing: What happens if the player has decided to let Anders be killed - there are several such occasions in Awakening after all. Will Anders be resurrected or is the player short one companion.


Never mind logic and coherence, as long as the new Anders doesn't get on my nerves with his feline love affairs, all is well. I really hope Sir-Pounce-a-lot has been eaten by Darkspawn.

[Eshaye]

Phazor58 wrote...

I'm interested in how the heck Anders got possessed in the first place.

He invited Justice in, so it's not possession but co-habition, or it should have been. 

Kazanth wrote...

So he's Vengeance now? I don't want to find out what happens if you cheat on Anders...
 

That's not a reassuring thought, and yet it's still an attractive one. O.o 

Modifié par Eshaye, 08 février 2011 - 11:19 .

[Dark Specie]

Speaking about Justice and party banter, what about this?:



■Nathaniel: What if you found a living body to possess?

■Justice: Even if I knew how, I would not possess the living. Such is an act for demons.

■Nathaniel: What if the person were willing?

■Justice: Why would a mortal ever allow such a thing?

■Nathaniel: For life. For love. Perhaps together, you can do what they cannot do alone. If you gave instead of taking, I would consider you no demon.

■Justice: It is...something to consider. Thank you, Nathaniel.





Foreshadowing the events of DA2?

[Inzhuna]

If you kill Anders right at the beginning long before meeting Justice how can he possess him?..

[Annihilator27]

Wissenschaft wrote...

LOL, demon possessed Anders obsessed with destroying the chantry. Oh, chantry haters are going to love this guy.

I will aid with destroying the Templars!!!

[NinjaRogue]

Nerevar-as wrote...

NinjaRogue wrote...

"It is the Maker who creates mages. The Chantry was built by men, and it can be brought down by them." Any man who says this is redeemable in my opinion. MY FAV QUOTE RIGHT NOW!!!

Where is that from? Now that´s badass creed.

It's on the top of his Character profile.

[connorthedragonslayer]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Read the profile. Dear god, Anders is going to die at the end of this game. If he's an LI, I have an inkling there is going to be quite a lot of tragedy involved.

Haha yes, my gut reaction was 'I'm going to have to kill him aren't I? '

[HolyJellyfish]

Saibh wrote...

I cannot believe it. I cannot believe it. This is ridiculous.

I was angry dammit! I was righteously indignated! "Four returning companions?", I moaned. "How could you do this to me?", I cried. "Couldn't you have at least had a different Spirit possessing him?" I wailed.

So, what is this insult? Adding a genius twist to subvert my Outrage of Righteousness? I won't have it, I tell you!

I don't know.

Merrill had the personality of dry butter toast in DA:O. I knew next to nothing about her except she is going to be keeper and she's from my camp. And she's sort of pissy in the game.

Isabela appears completely overhauled and different from her DA:O counterpart. Even then, in DA:O the only thing we knew about her was she taught us a skill set, fought people, owns a ship, and is just as promiscuous as Zevran.

Anders & Justice are different, but even then in Awakenings their personalities were never truly fleshed out. The game sort of ended suddenly for me, as far as Justice's story went. You could sense something was wrong, plot information about the story between Spirits & Demons and it ends too quickly. As for Anders, I understand a bit more where you are coming from since his personality and background is pretty well fleshed out.

[Minxie]

Kazanth wrote...

So he's Vengeance now? I don't want to find out what happens if you cheat on Anders...
 

Oh dear...

The major trait of Anders in DAA was his urge to be free. And that very
same person should be willing to give away control over his body and
mind to a spirit??? This is perhaps the most extreme loss of freedom
imaginable!

I suppose Anders could have been on the brink of death and he bonded with Justice to save his own life.

Finally, Anders dislike/hate seemed directed at the templars not the
circle. It's the templar that are hunting him, not the circle. Why the
shift?

This confuses me a little, too. I initially thought that he only became active about going against the Chantry under the influence of Justice inside him. It's hard to tell if they're saying his own need for vengeance corrupted Justice, or if the blending of their personalities is what caused the corruption or... I'm just confusing myself more.

Perhaps Anders only becomes interested in vengeance (thereby corrupting Justice) AFTER this incident we witness with his tranquiled friend...

[thegoldfinch]

My two favorite characters from Awakening? In one person, whom the concept art makes look wonderfully delirious? Oh hells yeah. I am ALL about this. Excitement level has increased to the point where I might just throw up a little bit.

Seriously. His concept art makes him look so ragged and furious and absolutely far gone. He's even holding his back like a cranky old man, haha. Love it, love it, love it.

Modifié par pixieface, 08 février 2011 - 11:22 .

[Saibh]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I cannot believe it. I cannot believe it. This is ridiculous.

I was angry dammit! I was righteously indignated! "Four returning companions?", I moaned. "How could you do this to me?", I cried. "Couldn't you have at least had a different Spirit possessing him?" I wailed.

So, what is this insult? Adding a genius twist to subvert my Outrage of Righteousness? I won't have it, I tell you!

I don't know.

Merrill had the personality of dry butter toast in DA:O. I knew next to nothing about her except she is going to be keeper and she's from my camp. And she's sort of pissy in the game.

Isabela appears completely overhauled and different from her DA:O counterpart. Even then, in DA:O the only thing we knew about her was she taught us a skill set, fought people, owns a ship, and is just as promiscuous as Zevran.

Anders & Justice are different, but even then in Awakenings their personalities were never truly fleshed out. The game sort of ended suddenly for me, as far as Justice's story went. You could sense something was wrong, plot information about the story between Spirits & Demons and it ends too quickly. As for Anders, I understand a bit more where you are coming from since his personality and background is pretty well fleshed out.

...Reread what I said.

[Dr. wonderful]

Anders New theme?
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Modifié par Dr. wonderful, 08 février 2011 - 11:25 .

[Sjofn]

Poor Justice.

[HolyJellyfish]

agrocato wrote...

This new Anders leaves me a puzzled:

The major trait of Anders in DAA was his urge to be free. And that very same person should be willing to give away control over his body and mind to a spirit??? This is perhaps the most extreme loss of freedom imaginable!

By becoming a warden Anders was finally free from the circle. Moreover, he never seemed like the hateful type. But  now he suddenly decides that he hates the circle and has to crush it???

Finally, Anders dislike/hate seemed directed at the templars not the circle. It's the templar that are hunting him, not the circle. Why the shift?

All of this seems completely out of character for Anders! I don't buy it.


One more thing: What happens if the player has decided to let Anders be killed - there are several such occasions in Awakening after all. Will Anders be resurrected or is the player short one companion.


Never mind logic and coherence, as long as the new Anders doesn't get on my nerves with his feline love affairs, all is well. I really hope Sir-Pounce-a-lot has been eaten by Darkspawn.

It may come down to the fact that after becoming a Grey Warden - a job which inevitably means you have to throw your selfish desires aside to take care of others - that Anders wants to release his fellow mages from the Chantry's hold. Its a possibility.

[HolyJellyfish]

Saibh wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I cannot believe it. I cannot believe it. This is ridiculous.

I was angry dammit! I was righteously indignated! "Four returning companions?", I moaned. "How could you do this to me?", I cried. "Couldn't you have at least had a different Spirit possessing him?" I wailed.

So, what is this insult? Adding a genius twist to subvert my Outrage of Righteousness? I won't have it, I tell you!

I don't know.

Merrill had the personality of dry butter toast in DA:O. I knew next to nothing about her except she is going to be keeper and she's from my camp. And she's sort of pissy in the game.

Isabela appears completely overhauled and different from her DA:O counterpart. Even then, in DA:O the only thing we knew about her was she taught us a skill set, fought people, owns a ship, and is just as promiscuous as Zevran.

Anders & Justice are different, but even then in Awakenings their personalities were never truly fleshed out. The game sort of ended suddenly for me, as far as Justice's story went. You could sense something was wrong, plot information about the story between Spirits & Demons and it ends too quickly. As for Anders, I understand a bit more where you are coming from since his personality and background is pretty well fleshed out.

...Reread what I said.

My mistake.

[SG60]

Anders better be an LI, or I will rage.  Mage FemHawke + Anders <3