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[Miri1984]

I'm not coming any where near the forums for at least a couple of weeks after the game is released Soooo don't want spoilers! I'm going to have to stop myself from making a save before every single conversation and re doing them if I don't get the reactions I want as it is. It will take me YEARS to play the bloody game if I do that.



No, with Origins I came in completely spoiler free and got my STILL BEATING HEART RIPPED FROM MY CHEST. I'm hoping to have the same experience this time around



...cos I'm weird that way

[TheRevanchist]

Go Anders!

Modifié par kylecouch, 13 février 2011 - 09:26 .

[Dhiro]

Ignore the troll, people.

[Minxie]

obnoxiousgas wrote...

I think it's probably due to an 'us vs. them' mentality going on now. We've found out that not everyone is going to be a romance option via the Aveline anti-reveal, so now it's a case of finding reason for X not to be a love interest so Y has to be one by default. I'm not going to pretend I'm exactly above it, either, (and I'm certainly not going to pretend to be impartial) but I hope it calms down somewhat when/if it gets confirmed whether X or Y will be the option.

... It probably won't.

I initially didn't want the LIs to be revealed prior to the game but now I kind of do because at least it would release all the tension that's been building up here. People are getting so sensitive over the Anders vs. Varric LI debate and it's freaking me out. If the LIs were revealed tomorrow there would be a big uproar for maybe a day or so but then it'll die down and we could all go back to anticipating the game without all this competition.

But it's easy for me to say this like I'm above it all because I don't really have a horse in the race anymore. (I'm already pretty sure we're getting Fenris what I'm hoping for )

[tehprincessJ]

Dhiro wrote...

Ignore the troll, people.

Word.

[AtreiyaN7]

tallon1982 wrote...

I think it would be rather interesting to have Anders as a LI simply for the fact that he has the spirit of Justice adding to the drama. Whether it's the Justice we knew from Awakening or not makes it even more intriguing. I would think you could perhaps change how Justice is perhaps return him to being how he was rather than being stuck on vengeance depending on choices made throughout the game. And I would think both are fully aware when one has taken over the physical body (Anders is aware of Justice's actions and vice versa). I'm very eager to see how Ander's story plays out because of this twist and if it does come down to saving Anders or the spirit Justice well I'll have to see how it goes should it ever happen lol.

Considering that Justice had Kristoff's memories and envied the bond that the Warden and his wife Aura shared, maybe he'd actually be intrigued by a romantic relationship - except that he's morphed into Vengeance. I'm not exactly sure how he'd react now. It could be that he's completely fixated on the issue of the mages & the Chantry. However, I certainly hope that Anders/Justice(Vengeance) is an LI option because he'd certainly be one of the most interesting ones to date. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! On the bright side, we don't have that much longer to wait to find out.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 13 février 2011 - 09:32 .

[Dhiro]

I support Vengeance's angry demon sex and Justice's gentle spirit sex. That's all I have to say.

[Elite Midget]

Why is this the Anders Thread? Didn't anyone get the memo that Anders has fused with Justice to make a truely prowerful being?

It should the Anders the Spirit of Justice thread. >_> Or even Shin Anders of Great Justice!

Modifié par Elite Midget, 13 février 2011 - 09:28 .

[leggywillow]

Alot of this depends on what happens to Justice when he's inside a living body.  For example, Wynne's spirit in Origins didn't communicate much with her consciously.  While Justice was in Kristoff's corpse, he had full control and could obviously move and speak and otherwise behave like a separate entity.  Perhaps when he's inhabiting Anders, much like Wynne's spirit, it won't be like a "split-personality" thing.  It will be more like a strong impulse that Anders has to fight to control.

[Elite Midget]

I don't see why. Weren't they allies in arms during the events of Awakening?



Also, why Anders? Justice should have merged with the Grey Warden. >_>

[Threeparts]

 I know who I'd like to see as LIs, but at this point the game has gone gold and no amount of flailing will change who has been written for those roles, so there's not much use in getting upset over possibilities.
I could scream to the sky that Aveline and Bartrand should be LIs, and why have the writers forsaken me, but it won't change a damn thing and it would be far more sensible to just save my breath. I'll wait and see what happens when the game is released, and until then I'll try to navigate around any ship wars as best I can. :innocent:

[Wynne]

I'm replaying Awakening, and I do truly love Justice. He does show signs of being intrigued by and moved by Kristoff's love for Aura. If Anders starting feeling something for somebody, I think that Justice would be very tempted as well.

Somebody has to have already mentioned that this would practically be a threesome, right?

[leggywillow]

Wynne wrote...

I'm replaying Awakening, and I do truly love Justice. He does show signs of being intrigued by and moved by Kristoff's love for Aura. If Anders starting feeling something for somebody, I think that Justice would be very tempted as well.

Perhaps Justice's corruption even magnifies these kinds of feelings in Anders?  Justice definitely stated that he felt envious of Kristoff and Aura as well.

ETA:  I got the impression that a normal Justice would be in favor of Anders and Hawke hooking up, "FOR SCIENCE!".  He'd probably be very curious about it and not understand the taboos that mortals often have about those kinds of things.  It would be Anders and Hawke who might be squicked out by their creepy 3rd partner.

Modifié par leggywillow, 13 février 2011 - 10:21 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

*returns from an outing!*

Hm? What were we talking about?

Yes, it is turning into kind of an us vs. them situation. Can I tell you the reasons why Anders will be an LI? No. I'm not going to assume anything about his storyline and how it's going to play out. Why? Because the game isn't out yet. We can assume and assume all day long and really, I don't think many of us will be able to say "Hey, this is playing out exactly the way I knew it would," for better or for worse. We're not the writers.

And someone above mentioned about having closure about Aveline?  Yes, I do almost envy that, although her status as an LI came out the way that it did.  But there was closure.  No more anticipation.  If Anders turns out to be a non-LI, I will be disappointed, but at least I can have no more waiting and chewing on my nails and trying to come up with every reason under the sky why he would be an LI over someone else, whether it'd be Varric or Fenris.  I'll sadface... and move on.  Still gonna play the game and help the poor guy out.

I am looking forward to him, however. And would prefer him to be an LI. From this moment on, I promise to be civil! Aah, must have been that fresh air that helped my mood.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 13 février 2011 - 10:28 .

[Minxie]

Wynne wrote...

I'm replaying Awakening, and I do truly love Justice. He does show signs of being intrigued by and moved by Kristoff's love for Aura. If Anders starting feeling something for somebody, I think that Justice would be very tempted as well.

Somebody has to have already mentioned that this would practically be a threesome, right?

I've thought this too, like if Anders falls in love with Hawke then Justice might as well because he can't help it. I wonder if Justice was just envious of Kristoff and Aura or if he was just confused by 'residual feelings' for Aura in Kristoff's memories? Like are his feelings independent of the body he inhabits or is he inevitably influenced by them?

[Threeparts]

I'm really, really eager to find out how separate J/V and Anders actually are. I'm hoping it's less like MPD and sharing his skull with a third person, and more that certain events or emotions trigger his 'inner rage' and turn him violent or aggressive. Someone who has to struggle to keep themselves calm in order to retain their personality makes me very curious, and wouldn't necessarily devolve as easily into 'and here's my comic sidekick, Justice!'.



That, and I secretly want to see Anders Hulk out.

[Dhiro]

Justice has the potential to be the most adorkable character ever, with his Please-teach-me-about-your-human-ways-I'll-be-a-good-boy thingie. So sad they turned him into a demon, Spirit!Justice needs more love.



Oh, and Anders is great. /ontopic

[Miri1984]

@LeggyWillow I think Justice (if he was still mostly Justice) would actually push Anders into a relationship if he thought that was what Anders wanted. To deny him that would be unjust! I also think he would do his best to stay out of the way .

[leggywillow]

[quote]Minxie18 wrote...

I've thought this too, like if Anders falls in love with Hawke then Justice might as well because he can't help it. I wonder if Justice was just envious of Kristoff and Aura or if he was just confused by 'residual feelings' for Aura in Kristoff's memories? Like are his feelings independent of the body he inhabits or is he inevitably influenced by them?[/quote]

[/quote]

This is why I'm starting to wonder if Justice will even be a recognizable "character" in DA2 or simply be like Wynne's Fade spirit: a powerful force that influences Anders but doesn't interact with others in a conventional manner, like Justice did in Awakening.

He talked a lot about residual memories and feelings in Kristoff's body that obviously had an effect on him, and Kristoff's soul was long gone.  In a living host those feelings must be strongly amplified and may overpower his individual self.

Regardless, I'm EXTREMELY curious to see how this plays out!

Modifié par leggywillow, 13 février 2011 - 10:39 .

[Janele]

druplesnubb wrote…

If he survives the attack the epilogue states something along the lines of him being seen as the sole reason the keep survived, killing hundreds of darkspawn with his magic. It doesn't say this about Velanna, even though the wording in the epilogue implies she survived until somewhere at the end with "the surviving defenders" watching as she dies. Anders is probably way stronger than the balanced gameplay mechanics lets on (see also how Shale, despite being a golem, who are described in the codex as "each being an army" and are you know, gigantic stone/metal soldiers, being no stronger than Alistair or Oghren).

Exactly! The gameplay combat has to be balanced, but the cutscenes and everything else doesn’t have to be. Uldred and Connor couldn’t control the demons that possessed them, but Anders, being so powerful, can! Gosh I

Batteries wrote…

When Anders gets take over by Justice, do you think that Anders is aware of what Justice says and does?
Or just comes back with a "Lul hai guyz why you all lookin at me?

Oh gosh, that would be both hilarious and not at the same time. I think he’d be aware, because it seems like Vengeance is aware at the opposite time. Now I have a picture of Anders’ eyes being a constant glowy blue when he’s possessed and normal when he’s not…

Leggywillow qrote…

Alot of this depends on what happens to Justice when he's inside a living body. For example, Wynne's spirit in Origins didn't communicate much with her consciously. While Justice was in Kristoff's corpse, he had full control and could obviously move and speak and otherwise behave like a separate entity. Perhaps when he's inhabiting Anders, much like Wynne's spirit, it won't be like a "split-personality" thing. It will be more like a strong impulse that Anders has to fight to control.

Well, the only issue I see with this is that Vengeance isn’t a spirit anymore- he’s definitely(?) a demon. If that is truly the case, then he’d want full control over the body. He wouldn’t be content to just sit back like Wynne’s spirit. On another note, now that it’s been mentioned, I’m really, really curious about how Vengeance will react to a relationship!

Modifié par Janele, 13 février 2011 - 10:34 .

[Janele]

Double post fail.

Modifié par Janele, 13 février 2011 - 10:36 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

Threeparts wrote...

That, and I secretly want to see Anders Hulk out.

Oh yes.  Me too.

A preview:



We'll see if I ever finish...

[Dhiro]

I'd like to remember you guys that Anders is a Spirit Healer. The description of the specialization says that Spirit Healers have a greater risk to be posessed than other mages, so they need a lot of willpower. If Anders is a spirit healer, he's no weak-willed mage.



Also, I wonder if he being a spirit healer changes anything when being posessed by Justice - maybe other mages wouldn't have corrupted Justice, even if they hated the circle as much as Anders, because they're not as sensible to those things like a Spirit Healer is?

[Stevie 402]

Dhiro wrote...

I support Vengeance's angry demon sex and Justice's gentle spirit sex. That's all I have to say.

Hear Hear!!! It would be like having 3 boyfriends at once. Depending on the time of day/events you would get Funny/witty Anders, sweet sensitive honor bound spirit Justice, or I am going throw you against a wall and .....well you get the point Vengeance.


@ Dhiro- your avatar cracks me up

Modifié par Stevie 402, 13 février 2011 - 10:44 .