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Ninjacat513

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In public, he isn't.





Fenris: What's the intrest in cats?!



Anders: Maryyyy, can I hit him for saying that?



Hawke: (Sten style) No.



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Later.....



Pounce: Mew! (Purring and kneading Fenris)



Fenris: (With Pounce in lap) Teehee, so cute! :3

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Hiya everyone! Just wanted to proudly wave my Anders banner, hehe. OH, and say how great all the artwork and bits of writings and general banter has been (really picked up my night Posted Image)
Hmm Posted Image, I have my very own Pouncy purring on my lap at the mo...I think he wants more food...oh, now the other Pounce is here...help! Drowning in fluff! >.<

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Luckkkyyy! I happen to be without my cat atm. Do miss the little troublemaker, though ^_^

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Ninjacat513 wrote...

Luckkkyyy! I happen to be without my cat atm. Do miss the little troublemaker, though ^_^


Nyaww! I feel for you yet at the same time I'm looking down at the nibble marks on my fingers, teehee Posted Image

Modifié par Gwawr, 14 février 2011 - 04:11 .


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Ninjacat513 wrote...

Luckkkyyy! I happen to be without my cat atm. Do miss the little troublemaker, though ^_^


Well, you know, as adorable as they are (I have two), they also do things like, say, chew through all the cords in your entire house.

Not that mine have done that, or anything. <_<

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Ninjacat513 wrote...

In public, he isn't.


Fenris: What's the intrest in cats?!
Anders: Maryyyy, can I hit him for saying that?
Hawke: (Sten style) No.

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Later.....
Pounce: Mew! (Purring and kneading Fenris)
Fenris: (With Pounce in lap) Teehee, so cute! :3


This proves the magical prowess of the cat Posted Image

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Grawr - Blackadder signature FTW :)

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Miri1984 wrote...

Grawr - Blackadder signature FTW :)


Yay! Gotta love Blackadder, hard to choose just one quote :D

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Yeah, my kitty cat Benji tends to claw and bite me >_<

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Our little Merlin is a powerful wizard (just like his namesake), we frequently have to dodge fireballs and all sorts :P

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Just de-lurking.
Speaking as a person who has never played Awakening and who knows nothing of Anders besides the fact that he didn't do it, I am rather excited about him because he's a male healer. How often does that happen in an RPG? One thing though: In the video where he is healing the "Boy", he never looks at Hawke, makes me wonder if he is blind or just drunk? Posted Image

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Seventh H3ll wrote...

Just de-lurking.
Speaking as a person who has never played Awakening and who knows nothing of Anders besides the fact that he didn't do it, I am rather excited about him because he's a male healer. How often does that happen in an RPG? One thing though: In the video where he is healing the "Boy", he never looks at Hawke, makes me wonder if he is blind or just drunk? Posted Image


I never got that impression.  Going to have to rewatch it.  Just seemed to me like he was really tired and strained- both from the healing and with the constant battle for control with Vengeance.  I guess drunk is a possibility, though.  Good point with the male healer bit, too.  You're right, it almost never happens!

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Seventh H3ll wrote...

Just de-lurking.
Speaking as a person who has never played Awakening and who knows nothing of Anders besides the fact that he didn't do it, I am rather excited about him because he's a male healer. How often does that happen in an RPG? One thing though: In the video where he is healing the "Boy", he never looks at Hawke, makes me wonder if he is blind or just drunk? Posted Image

He was concentrating very, very hard. He was probably purposely tuning out anyone who was walking around him. Don't want to make a mistake when a child's life is on the line.

I agree, it's nice to have a male healer. Not all healers have to fit into the 'passive, comforting and feminine' stereotype. Er, no offense, Wynne. :P

EDIT: Ah, I misunderstood. I didn't notice he wasn't looking directly at Hawke. I hope it's just a model goof and not because he went blind. :blink:

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 14 février 2011 - 05:08 .


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Seventh H3ll wrote...

Just de-lurking.
Speaking as a person who has never played Awakening and who knows nothing of Anders besides the fact that he didn't do it, I am rather excited about him because he's a male healer. How often does that happen in an RPG? One thing though: In the video where he is healing the "Boy", he never looks at Hawke, makes me wonder if he is blind or just drunk? Posted Image


Or so knackered that he doesn't notice an entire group of people approaching.

I think there was some speculation about him possibly being blind a few pages back, actually. Hm. Makes me wonder.

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Maybe drinking helps drown out Vengeance, ahaha.

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SgtElias wrote...

Seventh H3ll wrote...

Just de-lurking.
Speaking as a person who has never played Awakening and who knows nothing of Anders besides the fact that he didn't do it, I am rather excited about him because he's a male healer. How often does that happen in an RPG? One thing though: In the video where he is healing the "Boy", he never looks at Hawke, makes me wonder if he is blind or just drunk? Posted Image


Or so knackered that he doesn't notice an entire group of people approaching.

I think there was some speculation about him possibly being blind a few pages back, actually. Hm. Makes me wonder.


LOL, I hope he's not drunk!  I got the impression he was concentrating very hard, not sloshed.  :lol:

EDIT:  Maybe the video cuts right at a very telling scene...

Anders:  I have made this place a sanctum of healing and salvation!  Why do you threaten it? ::hic::  All eight of you.
Hawke:  :huh:  Eight?  There's only 4 of us.
Anders:  ::hic:: Yeah, look at you all... bringing all yer twins along to confuse me... ::HIC::
Hawke: No, no...
Anders:  Yep, you can't fool me, heh heh.  Tricky, tricky... wha-hey!  ::falls over::
Varric:  I'll have what he's having.

Modifié par leggywillow, 14 février 2011 - 05:11 .


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I was mostly kidding about the drunk thing, since drinks tend to lead to very unfocused gazes. Healing people drunk does not seem to be a good idea.

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Hi folks.

Don't want to interupt the silliness - which is quite funny to follow, I must say - but I have some quick questions.

These were being discussed in another thread, but DG closed it without answering.  And we all know how wonderful the search feature is on this forum.  Posted Image

So, could I get the answer to 2 quick questions regarding Anders please?  Posted Image

1.  Do we know - or have a good guess - as to whether there will be an explanation for the Anders epilogues that don't match with him being in Kirkwall?  ie, him dead, him staying with the Wardens forever, etc.

2.  Do we know if he is a permanent companion, or a temporary one (a la Mhairi)?

Thanks.  Posted Image

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leggywillow wrote...
LOL, I hope he's not drunk!  I got the impression he was concentrating very hard, not sloshed.  :lol:

EDIT:  Maybe the video cuts right at a very telling scene...

Anders:  I have made this place a sanctum of healing and salvation!  Why do you threaten it? ::hic::  All eight of you.
Hawke:  :huh:  Eight?  There's only 4 of us.
Anders:  ::hic:: Yeah, look at you all... bringing all yer twins along to confuse me... ::HIC::
Hawke: No, no...
Anders:  Yep, you can't fool me, heh heh.  Tricky, tricky... wha-hey!  ::falls over::
Varric:  I'll have what he's having.


God, that mental image is fantastic. All eight of you. xD

I almost wish your companions could show up drunk in the middle of the night. Except then I'd have some strong Oghren flashbacks, but hey! Still amusing.

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Can't answer 1 but as for 2, I'm pretty sure if you so choose that he will be a permanent companion. :)

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TJPags wrote...

Hi folks.

Don't want to interupt the silliness - which is quite funny to follow, I must say - but I have some quick questions.

These were being discussed in another thread, but DG closed it without answering.  And we all know how wonderful the search feature is on this forum.  Posted Image

So, could I get the answer to 2 quick questions regarding Anders please?  Posted Image

1.  Do we know - or have a good guess - as to whether there will be an explanation for the Anders epilogues that don't match with him being in Kirkwall?  ie, him dead, him staying with the Wardens forever, etc.

2.  Do we know if he is a permanent companion, or a temporary one (a la Mhairi)?

Thanks.  Posted Image


There's been gameplay clips of him in the Deep Roads, and in the Demo they did the other day, he was a possible party member on the selection screen when they first met Isabela. So, I'm guessing he's permanent.

As for how they plan to explain his presence, they've said they're willing to handwave situations if necessary, and they've also said that some of his lines will change depending on the choices you make. So presumably they've accounted for some situations, and the others can go hang. He's important to the plot as he gives us access to the Deep Roads, so even if he died or was executed in some people's Awakening games, they'll just have to deal with the fact that he got better. :lol:

It's not something that bothers me particularly, just one of the dangers you run into in such open-ended worlds where you actually give players a choice in these matters.

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TJPags wrote...

Hi folks.

Don't want to interupt the silliness - which is quite funny to follow, I must say - but I have some quick questions.

These were being discussed in another thread, but DG closed it without answering.  And we all know how wonderful the search feature is on this forum.  Posted Image

So, could I get the answer to 2 quick questions regarding Anders please?  Posted Image

1.  Do we know - or have a good guess - as to whether there will be an explanation for the Anders epilogues that don't match with him being in Kirkwall?  ie, him dead, him staying with the Wardens forever, etc.

2.  Do we know if he is a permanent companion, or a temporary one (a la Mhairi)?

Thanks.  Posted Image

We don't know the answers to either question yet, sadly.

My money is on permanent companion simply because he's on the site with all of the rest, has at least one quest we know of (rescuing his mage friend), and has a much more complicated backstory than Mhairi.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Seventh H3ll wrote...

Just de-lurking.
Speaking as a person who has never played Awakening and who knows nothing of Anders besides the fact that he didn't do it, I am rather excited about him because he's a male healer. How often does that happen in an RPG? One thing though: In the video where he is healing the "Boy", he never looks at Hawke, makes me wonder if he is blind or just drunk? Posted Image

He was concentrating very, very hard. He was probably purposely tuning out anyone who was walking around him. Don't want to make a mistake when a child's life is on the line.

I agree, it's nice to have a male healer. Not all healers have to fit into the 'passive, comforting and feminine' stereotype. Er, no offense, Wynne. :P

EDIT: Ah, I misunderstood. I didn't notice he wasn't looking directly at Hawke. I hope it's just a model goof and not because he went blind. :blink:


Def. agree on male mage and on concentration (he might be in the Fade, perhaps?).

David Gaider mentioned on another thread that the video we see of him healing the kid is low-res, which matches my experience of playing DA on medium res until I realised I could change it to high quality (derp). Characters just look stupider on the lower settings (or blind or drunk - for instance, eyes don't show up as brilliantly).

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TJPags wrote...

1.  Do we know - or have a good guess - as to whether there will be an explanation for the Anders epilogues that don't match with him being in Kirkwall?  ie, him dead, him staying with the Wardens forever, etc.

2.  Do we know if he is a permanent companion, or a temporary one (a la Mhairi)?

Thanks.  Posted Image


Some of the others that post here regularly probably can answer better than I, but from what I know:

1) The developers (David Gaider specifically, I think) have said before that it's probably not a good idea to take the epilogue as sacrosanct. If he "died," then there was the whole Justice thing, so it's possible that the player/Warden thought he died when in actuality he just set off for Kirkwall.

Also, technically, he can still obey the epilogue and return to the Wardens. There are Wardens in other places besides Vigil's Keep, so he could still, in theory, return to the Order without returning to Vigil's Keep. Also, I know that the Wardens make an appearance in DA II. So maybe he IS still a part of them, just not as . . .  devout a part as we all thought.

2) I'm pretty sure he's a permanent companion. I suppose they could "pull a Mhairi," but it seems unlikely that they'd do all the work of combining him with Justice just to kill him after a short time.

Hope that helps, I take no responsibility for how accurate it is. ^_^

Modifié par SgtElias, 14 février 2011 - 05:30 .


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Ms .45 wrote...

Def. agree on male mage and on concentration (he might be in the Fade, perhaps?).

David Gaider mentioned on another thread that the video we see of him healing the kid is low-res, which matches my experience of playing DA on medium res until I realised I could change it to high quality (derp). Characters just look stupider on the lower settings (or blind or drunk - for instance, eyes don't show up as brilliantly).


Perhaps it's as if he is wearing 3D goggles, that's always trippy.
 Like the red color is Anders and the blue is Justice and they do not mesh well. :P

Modifié par Seventh H3ll, 14 février 2011 - 05:31 .