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[Threeparts]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Alistair's was pretty miserable. He dies, you die, or the 'happy' ending where you bring a demon baby into the world by having him have sex with Morrigan, and then get to have a few decades before you have to go die in the Deep Roads.

Well, no Warden is ever really going to have a happy ending, if you put it like that. Every single one will be killed by the taint, or fall in battle to the Darkspawn.
What would matter more, I would think, is what you do with the time you have. Even if you only get twenty years to spend with your partner (or partners, since I always felt uncomfortable that my 20-somethings would spend the rest of their lives with one person), it's more than others would get. And if you're the adventuring sort - which you'd nearly have to be to not just abandon this whole Archdemon-killing BS and run off into the woods while everyone else is sleeping - there's still plenty of other interesting things to do in the world.
More mysteries to solve, more monsters to fight and people to protect, more places to visit, more politics to screw up... the Wardens would have to make their own happiness, and, after being through what they did, many would be able to cope just fine. We're playing exceptional people here, after all! 

Modifié par Threeparts, 14 février 2011 - 07:21 .

[The Big Nothing]

Ninjacat513 wrote...

OH! But with no Arch Demon, will the Calling still happen? *Hopeful face*

There are two Old Gods left. They are always calling.

[Saibh]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Alistair's was pretty miserable. He dies, you die, or the 'happy' ending where you bring a demon baby into the world by having him have sex with Morrigan, and then get to have a few decades before you have to go die in the Deep Roads.

That's really not that bad. It's still a happy ending, as far as I've considered. If you trust Morrigan, even better. No Warden gets a happy ending if you're that concerned about the Calling thing. And I'm not. The game ends with you and Alistair together, in love, and ready for more adventures.

Golden-Rose wrote...

Really? Even Morrigan's romance? She ends up leaving you no matter what.

(note that I haven't played Witch Hunt yet however, so I'm not entirely sure about whether things can end up being happy for a Warden who romanced her or not)

I'm surprised you haven't been spoiled yet. As I said, no romance ends unhappily. You could even argue that Morrigan's romance is probably the happiest.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Threeparts wrote...

Well, no Warden is ever really going to have a happy ending, if you put it like that. Every single one will be killed by the taint, or fall in battle to the Darkspawn.

True, but my mage was at least consoled in the knowledge that her beloved Zevran would live on. And she didn't have to let Morrigan do him for that to happen.

[Miri1984]

I like to hope there is some sort of happy ending possible for all the romances. As with the Alistair romance, however, I'm sure the *default* ending will be miserable and heart wrenching for at least ONE of them, and given Anders' difficulty he seems the most logical choice in that regard.

[Threeparts]

Miri1984 wrote...

I like to hope there is some sort of happy ending possible for all the romances. As with the Alistair romance, however, I'm sure the *default* ending will be miserable and heart wrenching for at least ONE of them, and given Anders' difficulty he seems the most logical choice in that regard.

Maker, this topic is getting depressing. Can't we just vote in Aveline as the character with the most awful love life and cross our fingers for relatively happy endings for everyone else? 

Modifié par Threeparts, 14 février 2011 - 07:47 .

[SgtElias]

Threeparts wrote...

Maker, this topic is getting depressing. Can't we just vote in Aveline as the character with the most awful love life and cross our fingers for relatively happy endings for everyone else? 

I concur.

[Miri1984]

@Threeparts I'm with you there. Happy endings for all!

[HighMoon]

Threeparts wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I like to hope there is some sort of happy ending possible for all the romances. As with the Alistair romance, however, I'm sure the *default* ending will be miserable and heart wrenching for at least ONE of them, and given Anders' difficulty he seems the most logical choice in that regard.

Maker, this topic is getting depressing. Can't we just vote in Aveline as the character with the most awful love life and cross our fingers for relatively happy endings for everyone else? 

As the character with the most awful love life? Hmm, I don't know. There are a few worthy contenders. Isabela and her "greasy bastard" of a husband who got slaughtered by the Antivan crows comes to mind. And though we barely know anything about her, Hawke's mother, Leandra, had an apostate husband who died. I'm assuming he was murdered by templars, but I could be entirely wrong. Aveline was hit pretty hard though. She had a husband who she loved and was probably married to for quite a while only to succumb to the darkspawn taint when fleeing Ferelden.

Modifié par Golden-Rose, 14 février 2011 - 08:01 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

Golden-Rose wrote...

As the character with the most awful love life? Hmm, I don't know. There are a few worthy contenders. Isabela and her "greasy bastard" of a husband who got slaughtered by the Antivan crows comes to mind. And though we barely know anything about her, Hawke's mother, Leandra, had an apostate husband who died. I'm assuming he was murdered by templars, but I could be entirely wrong. Aveline was hit pretty hard though, I suppose. She had a husband who she loved and was probably married to for a while only to succumb to the darkspawn taint when fleeing Ferelden.

If we're going with NPCs, one must consider Cullen and Jowan. Both only had one love that we know of, but one could never act on it and the other's world was destroyed by it.

[SgtElias]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

If we're going with NPCs, one must consider Cullen and Jowan. Both only had one love that we know of, but one could never act on it and the other's world was destroyed by it.

Alright, that's it, I'mma break out the kittens, or something . . .

So sad.

[Threeparts]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

If we're going with NPCs, one must consider Cullen and Jowan. Both only had one love that we know of, but one could never act on it and the other's world was destroyed by it.

Man, Cullen. I'm actually tabbed out of DA:O right now, playing the mage I'm setting up for DA2, and she was flirting with Cullen earlier. Apparently she came on too strong and he ran away. So not looking forward to seeing him a few hours down the track. 

[ReallyRue]

Threeparts wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

If we're going with NPCs, one must consider Cullen and Jowan. Both only had one love that we know of, but one could never act on it and the other's world was destroyed by it.

Man, Cullen. I'm actually tabbed out of DA:O right now, playing the mage I'm setting up for DA2, and she was flirting with Cullen earlier. Apparently she came on too strong and he ran away. So not looking forward to seeing him a few hours down the track. 

And then not being able to talk to him after you defeat Uldred. I really wanted a 'give him a hug' option.
I felt bad for Jowan too, although that was balanced out by the fact he screws my Amell/Surana over with the whole 'I'm a blood mage, but I'm not telling you that. Instead I'll ask you to help and then leave you to get in trouble'. And then there was Tamlen and femMahariel... and Tabris' future husband... and Iona/Darrien for Cousland... holy Maker! Bioware really loves the tragic romances.
They had better have happy ones for Anders and co!

[MicheleMassacre]

Tamlen and Female Mahariel made me just want to cry. It was so sad.

[syllogi]

Saibh wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Alistair's was pretty miserable. He dies, you die, or the 'happy' ending where you bring a demon baby into the world by having him have sex with Morrigan, and then get to have a few decades before you have to go die in the Deep Roads.

That's really not that bad. It's still a happy ending, as far as I've considered. If you trust Morrigan, even better. No Warden gets a happy ending if you're that concerned about the Calling thing. And I'm not. The game ends with you and Alistair together, in love, and ready for more adventures.

I don't want to get into the Old God Baby debate, but one could argue that a Warden who takes the Dark Ritual route is selfish and short sighted by not considering what will happen down the road with the child.  Of course, all of my characters have done the DR, so I'm not knocking it, but I would not call that a happy ending, personally, until I know that Morrigan's child isn't going to bring another Blight to the world.

Revan and Carth or Bastila is another one I'd consider an unhappy ending, just because Revan always leaves no matter what, according to KOTOR2.  Really wish we could have gotten some closure there...=P

Anyway, I'm crossing my fingers that the writers want to do things a bit differently in DA2.  I don't need a guarantee of sunshine and lollipops for my Hawke's happy ending, just letting her go off with her chosen LI would be fine, without the uncertainty of the Dark Ritual.  And I still don't know if we even get to do that with Anders, so I'm crossing my fingers...

[Osena109]

 I wonder if warrior templar hawke and anders are automatic rivals

[berelinde]

Osena109 wrote...

 I wonder if warrior templar hawke and anders are automatic rivals

Will we be starting the game with specializations or gaining them before we go to Kirkwall? My memory is fuzzy.

If we did, and if your warrior chose that specialization, it would kind of make sense for Anders to have issues with him, but if you chose the specialization after Anders was already in the party, would he have any right to complain?

[SurelyForth]

berelinde wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

 I wonder if warrior templar hawke and anders are automatic rivals

Will we be starting the game with specializations or gaining them before we go to Kirkwall? My memory is fuzzy.

If we did, and if your warrior chose that specialization, it would kind of make sense for Anders to have issues with him, but if you chose the specialization after Anders was already in the party, would he have any right to complain?

The latter is something I plan on doing with my warrior who romances Anders. I'm actually hoping that it causes some conflict between them and isn't like Blood Mage in DAO/Awakening where either it doesn't get mentioned, except in cut content, or you can give Wynne the spec and she doesn't blink.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Good morning fellow Anders fans! What's the hot topic today?

I think Anders's rival line is going to involve telling him that some Templar presence is necessary for people like, for lack of a better example, him. Over time he might even come to respect this decision but I'm sure he wouldn't like it for the most part. A lot of wasted effort on his part for sure.

I'm kind of curious about that rivalry line, too... ever since hearing about the Templars running Kirkwall basically, I was already gearing a full anti-Templar/Chantry mage in my head... but I'm sure Bioware won't make it so black and white  as I have.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 14 février 2011 - 01:28 .

[SurelyForth]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Good morning fellow Anders fans! What's the hot topic today?

I think Anders's rival line is going to involve telling him that some Templar presence is necessary for people like, for lack of a better example, him. Over time he might even come to respect this decision but I'm sure he wouldn't like it for the most part. A lot of wasted effort on his part for sure.

I'm kind of curious about that rivalry line, too... ever since hearing about the Templars running Kirkwall basically, I was already gearing a full anti-Templar/Chantry mage in my head... but I'm sure Bioware won't make it so black and white  as I have.

Didn't Gaider say that some companions will leave if you get them all the way to the end of the Rival line? Since Anders' issue is such a huge one for him, I imagine that he would leave rather than come around to seeing that the Chantry is necessary to control mages. Either that or something unspeakable happens to him.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 14 février 2011 - 01:37 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

SurelyForth wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Good morning fellow Anders fans! What's the hot topic today?

I think Anders's rival line is going to involve telling him that some Templar presence is necessary for people like, for lack of a better example, him. Over time he might even come to respect this decision but I'm sure he wouldn't like it for the most part. A lot of wasted effort on his part for sure.

I'm kind of curious about that rivalry line, too... ever since hearing about the Templars running Kirkwall basically, I was already gearing a full anti-Templar/Chantry mage in my head... but I'm sure Bioware won't make it so black and white  as I have.

Didn't Gaider say that some companions will leave if you get them all the way to the end of the Rival line? Since Anders' issue is such a huge one for him, I imagine that he would leave rather than come around to seeing that the Chantry is necessary to control mages. Either that or something unspeakable happens to him.

I cannot say for sure if he did or not, but I really would not be surprised if that were true.  Anders most obviously wants help changing things for the Mages of Thedas and if you're against that... well.  VENGEANCE.

[Janele]

Random thought, what's with the parents? Most only have one/none. Morrigan with Flemeth, Aeducan with Endrin, Brosca start with none, Hawke with just a mom, Cousland with both dead, no parents even mentioned for mages, city elf start a dad only... you get my point. Why can't there just be smiling parents waving you out the door as you go on your adventure? lol



Back to Anders stuff, today is Valentine's Day so I want a LI reveal. Preferably Anders. And preferably soon.

[Russalka]

I will laugh myself into a cabbage if it turns out to be yet another hype, like at the start of February.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Janele wrote...

Random thought, what's with the parents? Most only have one/none. Morrigan with Flemeth, Aeducan with Endrin, Brosca start with none, Hawke with just a mom, Cousland with both dead, no parents even mentioned for mages, city elf start a dad only... you get my point. Why can't there just be smiling parents waving you out the door as you go on your adventure? lol

Back to Anders stuff, today is Valentine's Day so I want a LI reveal. Preferably Anders. And preferably soon.

Because that wouldn't be tragic enough!  Those parents would probably be doomed, LOL.  

And we could only hope the DA team would do something like that.  I kinda doubt it.

Russalka wrote...

I will laugh myself into a cabbage if it turns out to be yet another hype, like at the start of February.

"We announce today... that the game is on schedule unlike last year!  Isn't that great news?!"

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 14 février 2011 - 02:14 .