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#2176
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Taleroth wrote...

Filament wrote...

Well, it could be that Justice sensed his anger at the Circle and got a general sense of the situation while he was still in Kristoff's body, which you can kind of see happening in Awakening. Maybe.

 It really doesn't sound like a big change for Justice.  He was... unforgiving.


Yeah. Well to be fair, I don't think he would have been quite so ruthless insane as we knew him. He was harsh but.. honorable. I think. None of this "yummy blood of my enemies" stuff in any case.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

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He didn't know what he was doing, at leat in this moment. If he started to eat humans while he's in control, I'm going to agree with you.


He doesn't seem to argue about the taste, though!

And it's still disturbing how he can do it at any moment.


No he doesnt argue but he also says "because his thoughts are mine and he is me, and I'm no longer sure what I was even asking." So that may have been one of Justices thoughts that are now his.

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yukidama wrote...

Yay! Four for me!

I hope they're candy canes or gifts from non-hulked out Anders, not sure I want honeyed wine blood or torn off limbs. :crying:


Maker, you are so picky. Gosh.

And I think that, in less intense situations, he can control the demon more. I hope. :?

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So. I've finally caught up. REACTION POST.



I read the announcement as soon as I logged in and I was all

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And then I read the story. And I was all

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And now I've caught up on this thread with you guys speculating about what might happen to him and now I'm all

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BEST/WORST MORNING THIS WEEK.

#2180
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Filament wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Filament wrote...

Well, it could be that Justice sensed his anger at the Circle and got a general sense of the situation while he was still in Kristoff's body, which you can kind of see happening in Awakening. Maybe.

 It really doesn't sound like a big change for Justice.  He was... unforgiving.


Yeah. Well to be fair, I don't think he would have been quite so ruthless insane as we knew him. He was harsh but.. honorable. I think. None of this "yummy blood of my enemies" stuff in any case.


Good description - bit difficult to reconcile Justice's personality and his previous conduct with morphing into a being that can rend people limb from limb and...eww...eat bits of them.

*prays to the Maker that he can be rehabilitated somehow*

EDIT: <3 Threeparts' post above for hilairousness (yay, Doctor Who - addition edit: why on Earth did I go "Dr." before *bonk self*).

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 15 février 2011 - 12:02 .


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@Dave of Canada I get the impression it happens when there is an injustice. So... um... don't perpetrate injustices around him and your flesh should be safe!

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Threeparts wrote...

So. I've finally caught up. REACTION POST.

I read the announcement as soon as I logged in and I was all
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And then I read the story. And I was all
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And now I've caught up on this thread with you guys speculating about what might happen to him and now I'm all
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BEST/WORST MORNING THIS WEEK.


This is the greatest reaction post I have ever seen.

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SurelyForth wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Yay! Four for me!

I hope they're candy canes or gifts from non-hulked out Anders, not sure I want honeyed wine blood or torn off limbs. :crying:


Maker, you are so picky. Gosh.

And I think that, in less intense situations, he can control the demon more. I hope. :?


Fine. I'll take the limbs, but only for the Mabari.

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Miri1984 wrote...

@Dave of Canada I get the impression it happens when there is an injustice. So... um... don't perpetrate injustices around him and your flesh should be safe!


It's kind of hard though when everything he sees will almost become an injustice.

Pet a kitten? INJUSTICE!
Pet a child petting a kitten? INJUSTICE!
Say "I should go."? INJUSTICE!

Eventually, all he'll think about is INJUSTICE! and he'll probably "justice out" for good.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 14 février 2011 - 11:59 .


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@Threeparts same here lol



I'm just trying to stay really positive and hope there's a way to save him and have some sort of "good enough" ending with him.



This is Dragon Age. There's no such thing as "happy ending". I call my Warden endings "good enough endings". Although Alistair was pretty close to being great, if it weren't for the taint.



Anders has to deal with the taint and possession and revolutionary ideas. Lady Hawke can deal with it!

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Threeparts wrote...

So. I've finally caught up. REACTION POST.

I read the announcement as soon as I logged in and I was all
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And then I read the story. And I was all
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And now I've caught up on this thread with you guys speculating about what might happen to him and now I'm all
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BEST/WORST MORNING THIS WEEK.


Sexy angsty Tennant Doctor says it all. I'm sorry, I'm so so sorry.

#2187
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Best.  Valentine's.  Evar.

Anyway, one thing stuck out to me in Anders's short story: Does Justice, himself, realize he's been corrupted?  Maybe I'm misinterpreting what's going on, but this quote made me wonder:

I am Anders.
I am Justice.

This never used to be so hard.


This assumes that Justice was corrupted upon entry into Anders's body, but think it's a possibility that Justice still thinks he's acting for a greater good.  Vengeance seems to have the same goal as Justice, but he may not be so concerned with the "how" of the equation (where Justice would do it the "right way," Vengeance would just say "ends justify the means"). 

Considering many of the demons we've met insist that they're doing kindnesses for their hosts (there's the Sloth Demon in the Circle Tower--although he's admittedly debatable--and the Desire Demon/Housewife-for-Templar come to mind), many demons may actually consider themselves "good."  It certainly plays into the gray "what is right?" morality Dragon Age likes to use.

Modifié par Elijee, 15 février 2011 - 12:02 .


#2188
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I refuse to rest until I know the status of Ser Pounce-a-lot.



Why must you be so cruel, BioWare? Why the cat? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

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yukidama wrote...

I refuse to rest until I know the status of Ser Pounce-a-lot.

Why must you be so cruel, BioWare? Why the cat? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY?


He ate the cat.

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Pseudocognition wrote...

yukidama wrote...

I refuse to rest until I know the status of Ser Pounce-a-lot.

Why must you be so cruel, BioWare? Why the cat? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY?


He ate the cat.


His first victim.

#2191
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What if he ATE Pounce?! No, no, they wouldn't do anything THAT horrible, would they?

EDIT: Doh, beaten to it.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 15 février 2011 - 12:05 .


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yukidama wrote...

I refuse to rest until I know the status of Ser Pounce-a-lot.

Why must you be so cruel, BioWare? Why the cat? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY?


I'm a cat person, so this is so terribly cruel. Also, you get four candy canes. Though, they are leftover from Christmas; I can't guarentee their edible-ness.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

yukidama wrote...

I refuse to rest until I know the status of Ser Pounce-a-lot.

Why must you be so cruel, BioWare? Why the cat? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY?


He ate the cat.


His first victim.


*infinite Holy Smite spam on Anders*

No Ser Pouce, game is worthless to me.

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opheliamars wrote...

I'm a cat person, so this is so terribly cruel. Also, you get four candy canes. Though, they are leftover from Christmas; I can't guarentee their edible-ness.


About as edible as Ser Pounce-a-lot.

Raw cat is probably stringy and disgusting, you have to make meatballs out of the poor thing.

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I'm very curious to see how this scene with the Tranquil is going to play out visually now.

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Elijee wrote...

Anyway, one thing stuck out to me in Anders's short story: Does Justice, himself, realize he's been corrupted?  Maybe I'm misinterpreting what's going on, but this quote made me wonder:

I am Anders.
I am Justice.



The short story was INTENSE, but this part made me giggle.

I am vengeance!  I am the night!  I am BATMAN! Anders!

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Threeparts wrote...

So. I've finally caught up. REACTION POST.

I read the announcement as soon as I logged in and I was all
*SNIP*

And then I read the story. And I was all
*SNIP*

And now I've caught up on this thread with you guys speculating about what might happen to him and now I'm all
*SNIP*


BEST/WORST MORNING THIS WEEK.

THIS.

I just caught up with the thread, was going to make a very similar post, but it would be inferior for its lack of Ten.

WRYYYYYYY, BioWare! Why do you keep pushing the boundaries of Do Not Want with me?

Anders is a companion! YAY!
But he's also POSSESSED! Boo!
But he's an LI! YAY!
BUT HE'S A CANNIBAL! BOO!

I want to cry, but I refuse to give them my tears. Since they wrote these stories up possibly -for- this reveal, can we assume the cannibalism is AU? Please?

#2198
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Dave of Canada wrote...

About as edible as Ser Pounce-a-lot.

Raw cat is probably stringy and disgusting, you have to make meatballs out of the poor thing.


Poor Ser Pounce-a-lot. 

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He didn't actually gnaw on someone did he?

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Seventh H3ll wrote...

He didn't actually gnaw on someone did he?


I think it depends on how you want to interpret it.  It says in the story that some blood flys into his mouth and he tastes it from that.  It also says something about 'eaten flesh.'  Now, you could interpret that last bit as he was using his mouth when he was attacking but that does not have to include swallowing.