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#126
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All Portal lithos gone.

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24x36?!?!?!?!?!

Dear god their huge!

Edit: Signed LE ones are gone.

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vometia wrote...

Valve also supply a rather nice certificate of authenticity with the lithographs that's signed by the artist.


Interesting, I was wondering how they were going to deter forgery. Does anyone know if Valve is going to produce more limited edition lithos? I'm also curious as to how much it would cost to frame one of these monsters. Anybody looked into that yet?

Off-Topic: Amazon currently has Portal 2 on sale for $35. I ordered mine!

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I wish they would sell a smaller litho, I can't do one of that size period.

If you do a cheap poster frame probably less than $30 but if you want something that's simple and looks good my guess is $40-60 and if you want really nice and fancy you could possibly assume $80 and up easy.

All estimations from a glance on google.

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They are a bit big.  Big enough that they won't fit into my art folder, annoyingly!

Anyway, a few pictures as requested.  Hope these are okay...


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Figured I may as well post a closer close-up of Chell while I was at it:



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I deal with drawings on that size daily. If you want a folder look at your local drafting supply stores. If your going to find anything to fit it thats probably the place.

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Trapper_920 wrote...

I deal with drawings on that size daily. If you want a folder look at your local drafting supply stores. If your going to find anything to fit it thats probably the place.

I spent about sixty quid on an A1 size art folder so I'm in no rush to get another! :lol:  It's just frustrating that the A1 paper size is slightly too small for a 36" poster, even with the folder having an extra inch either side.  Bummer.

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I can't blame you, I know its not cheap. I looked at some storage units for this size and it was about 500 USD for what I liked.

24x36 for us is referred to as "arch D" size. Though no matter how you look at it these are huge.

I sort of want the one you have of Chell even if it isn't a collector but I just can't put it any where. If they did mini's I'm guessing it would be the size of the BW LE lithos. LOL

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I think mine's just slightly too small!  I'd say "damn us for going metric" all those years ago but actually I quite like the ISO paper sizes for convenience.  US$500... hmm, that's over £300, definitely too much for me!  I think I'll get a couple of inexpensive frames, hopefully the styrene "glass" won't rot my pictures!

Valve don't really seem to do "mini" for some reason.  I have a HL2 litho from years back and that's huge too... and these are bigger. :o

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I appear to have gotten crazy addicted to these game art lithos and have found myself with the Valve limiteds. How exactly should I be storing these? I don't want to buy the wrong thing and you guys are scaring me.

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They are disturbingly addictive.  When I bought my first, just over a year ago, I didn't have a problem.  I thought I could give up any time, that quitting would be easy.  But it's not.  Here I am a year or so later and I have to confess that I now have a serious lithograph problem.  I don't think there's a cure.

In terms of storage, I'm told that acid-free and lignin-free is what you're after.  But beyond that I'm a bit clueless; perhaps one of our more arty types can help out (Trapper?)  My inclination is that lithographs are probably more resilient than many art forms, but when you're talking perhaps £60 or more (as is the case with the Portal 2 lithos) then preserving them carefully is a good idea.  I'm still wondering if even the ubiquitous styrene plasticky glass stuff is okay.

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I'm a bit of a book collector so I'm good on temperature, humidity, direct sunlight, pH neutral and so on. But I'm not sure about the stuff specific to large prints like the 24x36 Valve ones.

I assume you want to store them flat even though they come rolled, for example. Is that accurate? Do I need to put something in between the lithos when they are stacked? If so, what?

Finding archival storage for the Bioware prints looks pretty easy. The giant Portal ones not so much.

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Sorry Vometia I am not the person you are looking for for detailed advice on things like that. The acid thing is the only one I knew.

AgenTBC, my guess is to use what you know about book preservation. I strongly recommend you do flat storage.

As far as me and art goes what I do most people would not call it art. I work in drafting and use a computer to create construction plans. So when one goes bad I click print again and its all better. Your dealing with collector materials so I would not do things like bending or rolling. Hearing that they shipped rolled actually makes me cringe. Paper has a memory to it and as far as I'm concerned if it starts to remember being rolled its losing value but that's a personal view, I don't know what a collector would tell you.

I'm not sure what to put in the middle of them in a flat stack. Again I'm guessing but if you have a humidity controlled area it probably don't matter. I suppose you could get matting (like used in framing) cut for it and use that as a divider, just makes sure its the acid free and that other one Vom mentioned free.

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This is just some example stuff, shop around. Drafting/art supplies sort of meet on the topic of storage. Hope this helps.

http://www.draftings...rage-boxes.html
http://www.draftings...portfolios.html
http://www.nationwid...mbocabinet.html

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Shipping the Valve lithos rolled isn't ideal, I agree. They were rolled very loosely (maybe a 4 inch diameter tube?) thankfully. But they were likely between a rock and a hard place; the larger the art shipping flat the more likely it is to receive damage because of lever effects on the edges. Plus shipping a 24x36 box would count as an oversized item. I'm not sure being in a large tube for a few days isn't the better choice compared to the odds of receiving damage during shipping in a 24x36 flat box, which I think is a relatively high probability.

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I know what you mean, its just rolling art = me shuttering. I don't have much concern if its say blueprints. I have seen crushed tube before too. If they must be rolled looser is better and getting them out of the tube and flat sooner is better.

You know considering the size I'm surprised they were not printed to foam core.

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Trapper_920 wrote...

Sorry Vometia I am not the person you are looking for for detailed advice on things like that. The acid thing is the only one I knew.

Darn, it's so frustrating when other people don't just magically have all the answers leaving me to do some research myself. :lol:

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Shipping the Valve lithos rolled isn't ideal, I agree. They were rolled very loosely (maybe a 4 inch diameter tube?) thankfully. But they were likely between a rock and a hard place; the larger the art shipping flat the more likely it is to receive damage because of lever effects on the edges. Plus shipping a 24x36 box would count as an oversized item. I'm not sure being in a large tube for a few days isn't the better choice compared to the odds of receiving damage during shipping in a 24x36 flat box, which I think is a relatively high probability.

Overall I'm quite wary of tubes as I've had several things damaged thanks to the couriers managing to crush them in the past, and still need to get replacements from both the Bioware Store and Valve, though just for posters rather than lithographs, thankfully.

The tubes that the Portal II lithos came in were very substantial, however, and were then packed in an additional box with lots of padding just to make sure.  It really would require a deliberate effort (or a huge amount of neglicence) to crush them, and all things considered it was probably the safest way to ship them.  Especially looking at the latest Bioware lithos which came packed flat, and in spite of the amount of thick cardboard they looked like they were in danger of being damaged since "something" punctured several layers.  My only gripe with rolled lithos and posters is that it's sometimes a pain to unroll them again, and the potential for damage by my own clumsy fingers is always a cause for concern...

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I've seen tubes that are strong enough for a grown man... no an overweight man could stand on and not crush, that have been damaged. Granted these tubes were not made to contain its shipped contents but rather have it wrapped around it. Don't ask me how, not sure I want know how you crush a tube with 500 feet of paper wrapped around it. I know its not really related but I had to say it, its one of those frustrating days. LOL

Yea that's the other thing that hit me about wrapped art Vom. Their is no good trick to it, I have to try to unroll so much paper on a regular basis and if it was art it would be damaged to worthlessness. Also you never really get it to lay flat again. The ends always keep at least a little memory of being rolled. Granted that's workable.

What way do they roll it? Art in or art out?

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Four of the unsigned Valve 'Portal 2' lithos arrived today (yeah, I was too late for the signed ones because Valve Store didn't announce the release on FB), and until I'll move they will stay in the tubes. I agree that the A1 folders are a bit too small for them, so I only controlled the tubes and removed the caps to have a first look. The box was undamaged. I will look once more for A0 (84x119cm) but A0 is hard to get around here.

Btw, DHL Express once again collected far too few tax, but well, looks as if Germany can afford to be sloppy atm. ^.^

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The lithos were rolled with the images in.  I'm always nervous about unrolling them but miraculously I seem to have not caused any damage, which is amazing considering my clumsy hands!

Oh yeah, DHL, what fun.  They actually undercharged me too this time round, in spite of adding numerous random amounts to the parcel's value so that its taxable value was at least 50% more than it should have been.  I wrote to the UK division's company secretary to complain about the previous overcharge but he ignored me.  Sigh.  Anyway, at least they didn't manage to destroy this lot!

I've finally framed them.  I ordered these frames via Amazon: they should really say beech effect since since it's a transfer over a hardboard frame, but they do look really good.  The lithos were a very tight fit, and I'm amazed they went in without any rippling, but I'm very happy with the end result.  Here's a not so good picture, the various reflections rather detract but even with a polariser I was unable to banish them (and only succeeded in adding some unwanted vignetting), so you'll have to take my word for it!



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Wow she looks great.  Nice choice in frame.   Im trying not to move over into other games but im starting to get the temptation :P


Has anyone picked up any of the Alice mini's yet?   http://alice2store.com/alice-art

I love the look of the Infernal Train and Barrellbottom so was thinking of getting the 4 pack.  They look properly like something taken right out of a childhood nightmare.  Im quite impressed.  I was hoping if anyone here can confirm if they look as good as they do in store?


However I heard that you cant mix your treehouse orders between differing stores?   I was hoping to save on $13 shipping by getting something from the Bioware store too.   Anyone have any info on this or should I just send a pm to Ms Domino?

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I have the alice minis, the Tears bigger lithograph AND the limited Vorpal blade print :P

No, you cant mix, something to do with royalties. Ive asked Domino before, if i find the PM ill post it here

Here we go

Ms Domino6:48 PM 2011-03-28Hello! Unfortunately, although we operate both stores we cannot combine shipments between the two. It all comes down to royalties and licensing and accounting... 

My apologies, as I know how pricey postage is.




Ive been waiting 4 weeks for take2 to send me my bioshock and civilization lithos. They are bad naughty people

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Some pictures of the Halo giclees for anyone who is interested.

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Arghhh, i really like those and i've been thinking them over, but i dont want to pay 80 dollars for each one

I recommend the Vorpal print for Alice:Madness returns, its limited, handmade and very pretty

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Modifié par NamiraWilhelm, 14 mai 2011 - 08:11 .