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So you CAN have Carver survive if you are a rogue?!?!


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Nightsong

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In this video preview Hawke is a rogue, yet he has Carver in his team..:o
I'm so happy that I can have Carver eaven if I'm a rogue!



Modifié par MeiWang, 09 février 2011 - 09:39 .


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Albatroz

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Granted, I haven't watched this video before, but it's highly probable that the footage is from before Carver goes squish because of the Ogre.

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OrbitalWings

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Notice that Bethany is also in the team during those bits. They're clearly from before you're....ah...."restricted"....to one of them

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Don't believe the trailer's lies. You can't.

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the_one_54321

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:(

But what if I wanted him to die?

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Black_Warden

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Yup, that video must be pre ogre-squish

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Eveangaline

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Kinda doubtfull.

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It's been stated numerous times by devs that it's restricted by class. If you are a rogue/warrior, then you have Bethany. If you are a mage, then you have Carver. If you see any videos that show that Carver is alive and you're a warrior/rogue, then it's definitely before his death scene.

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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Notice that Bethany is also in the team during those bits. They're clearly from before you're....ah...."restricted"....to one of them


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Anarya

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Sadly no, you cannot have the Carv unless you're a mage.

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NeroSparda

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Anarya wrote...

Sadly no, you cannot have the Carv unless you're a mage.


I was hoping it would be a choosing at the very last moment to save and leave the other die rather than just class selection. Thankfully I got over my disappointment awhile ago.

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Anarya wrote...

Sadly no, you cannot have the Carv unless you're a mage.


And then Bethany goes squish. :(

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Soul Reaver

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No

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Altima Darkspells

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My dreams of a full party of mages! Dashed upon the rocks of reality!



Wait, I'm getting it for the PC. Yay, mods.

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Well i understood that you get different dialogue/options depending on your class. Not that they die depending on your class...I'll try to find the quote tho.

From brighthub:

Bethany Hawke and Carver Hawke: Hawke's little sister
Bethany is an apostate mage, and his little brother Carver is a warrior.
They're twins, and both are potential companions. The class you choose
to play will determine which of them travels with you, and may even
result in the death of the other.


Modifié par ankuu, 09 février 2011 - 11:04 .


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Altima Darkspells wrote...

My dreams of a full party of mages! Dashed upon the rocks of reality!

Wait, I'm getting it for the PC. Yay, mods.


It could be hardcoded into the game... Not everything is easy to change.

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel

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You can keep Bethany and Carver alive, Hawke just has to die then you watch the rest of the game play out as a series of cutscenes...just like Final Fantasy!

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

You can keep Bethany and Carver alive, Hawke just has to die then you watch the rest of the game play out as a series of cutscenes...just like Final Fantasy!

Yes, or maybe there will be DLC a la Darkspawn Chronicles where Hawke dies and Carver and Bethany go on an epic adventure.

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

You can keep Bethany and Carver alive, Hawke just has to die then you watch the rest of the game play out as a series of cutscenes...just like Final Fantasy!

Hehe

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Johnny Shepard

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MeiWang wrote...

In this video preview Hawke is a rogue, yet he has Carver in his team..:o
I'm so happy that I can have Carver eaven if I'm a rogue!



You get Carver and Bethany as your first companions during the beginning. Later one of them dies. If you check the video you se that in a later clip, Carver is gone.

Modifié par Johnny Shepard, 09 février 2011 - 11:11 .


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ankuu wrote...
Well i understood that you get different dialogue/option depending on your class. Not that they die depending on your class...i'll try to find the quote tho.

It was confirmed by a dev in thread many, many Internet-ages ago that whoever lives post-ogre-smash is based on your class. Mages get Carver, everyone else get's Bethany. It's a gamebalance and/or story thing.
There was this rumor from one magazine that said that both could live if you opted to not save Avaline, but I can't remember if we got a devquote confirming or denying that.

XX55XX wrote...
It could be hardcoded into the game... Not everything is easy to change.

Doubt something like that will be hardcoded. A bigger problem will be ensuring the dialogues afterwards makes any sense. For instance, imagine some angry Templar demanding  that your Warrior Hawke surrenders the Apostate that travels with him... only he's traveling with Carver. Stuff like that.

Modifié par Raygereio, 09 février 2011 - 11:10 .


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I could of sworn I read one of the devs hinting you can let both live somehow... He could of been lying, though, to crush our hopes.

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Altima Darkspells wrote...

My dreams of a full party of mages! Dashed upon the rocks of reality!

Wait, I'm getting it for the PC. Yay, mods.


My previous post on this, and the followup. In short, Raygereio's example is the absolute least that would happen. More likely an outright and repeated kaboom at any number of places. So have fun, but ya takes your chances. 

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Nimpe wrote...

I could of sworn I read one of the devs hinting you can let both live somehow... He could of been lying, though, to crush our hopes.

Well, the devs haven't said themself that they have to die just that class will depend who stay with you as companion. It's people playing the demo that say you can't. The devs themself still haven't responded to how it works.

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Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

Altima Darkspells wrote...

My dreams of a full party of mages! Dashed upon the rocks of reality!

Wait, I'm getting it for the PC. Yay, mods.


My previous post on this, and the followup. In short, Raygereio's example is the absolute least that would happen. More likely an outright and repeated kaboom at any number of places. So have fun, but ya takes your chances. 


Yeah, and that is a problem. Bethany and Carver won't interact with one another, and if Bethany is supposed to be the one that "lives", she'll be crying about Carver even though he survived and is standing right next to her!

A mod may fix some gameplay problems, but the story also won't flow as well.