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[Babli]

Somehow, my hope for more ME1ish soundtrack goes out of window. I was hoping for more stuff from Sam Hullick and Wall of Sound and all of this of course lead by Jack Wall. Jack and Sam were with ME from start and it seems that its special for them.



I dont know...will wait for some samples before judging, but they better bring back Vigil, Spectre induction, main theme and other great songs.



/not excited

[Had-to-say]

Mr. Clint Mansell I trust your talents but take inspiration from that old guy Jan Hammer.

Modifié par Had-to-say, 10 février 2011 - 10:20 .

[AlbertoAquilani]

Babli wrote...

Somehow, my hope for more ME1ish soundtrack goes out of window. I was hoping for more stuff from Sam Hullick and Wall of Sound and all of this of course lead by Jack Wall. Jack and Sam were with ME from start and it seems that its special for them.

I dont know...will wait for some samples before judging, but they better bring back Vigil, Spectre induction, main theme and other great songs.

/not excited

Yeah, pretty much how I feel. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think he is a phenomenal composer but I don't think his style is suited to Mass Effect.

I hope Bioware proves me wrong with Mass Effect 3, I really do but it's not a good start so far, multiplayer, story seems generic and no Jack Wall composing the OST.

[Goofy McCoy]

"Miami Vice horror in space"



As fitting a description as you'll find, Jan Hammer's synth is responsible for a lot of the tone and mood ME1 was so great at evoking.

[SSV Enterprise]

Jack Wall wrote...

Dear People Who Love Mass Effect - 
So...maybe it's time to actually say something?

Working on the Mass Effect series was epic. It was mind-bending, soul-coughing, astral-plane traveling delicious loveliness - all the way. The games themselves are works of art. I wouldn't change one note of it that myself, Sam, David, Richard or Jimmy wrote. As you may have noticed by now, I am not returning to score the final game. The reasons are much too complicated to explain here, but suffice to say that the people at BioWare and I are still friends and we all really still like each other a lot. More importantly, the score for ME3 will be great and even more important than that, the game will liikely be (being BioWare and all) super duper fantastic. 
Clint Mansell is cool. Enjoy.
Oh and thanks to everyone for the kind words here and over the years. For those of you who didn't say nice things, that's cool too. I'm still searching for the perfect chord. If you guys see it laying around, let me know, ok?
See you in another game in another crazy universe!

-Jack

It's cool to hear from you in light of this news.  Thanks for all the great music Mr. Wall!

[JediHealerCosmin]

Jack Wall wrote...

Dear People Who Love Mass Effect - 
So...maybe it's time to actually say something?

Working on the Mass Effect series was epic. It was mind-bending, soul-coughing, astral-plane traveling delicious loveliness - all the way. The games themselves are works of art. I wouldn't change one note of it that myself, Sam, David, Richard or Jimmy wrote. As you may have noticed by now, I am not returning to score the final game. The reasons are much too complicated to explain here, but suffice to say that the people at BioWare and I are still friends and we all really still like each other a lot. More importantly, the score for ME3 will be great and even more important than that, the game will liikely be (being BioWare and all) super duper fantastic. 
Clint Mansell is cool. Enjoy.
Oh and thanks to everyone for the kind words here and over the years. For those of you who didn't say nice things, that's cool too. I'm still searching for the perfect chord. If you guys see it laying around, let me know, ok?
See you in another game in another crazy universe!

-Jack

A reply from the master himself. Thank you Mr. Wall for the hard work you put into the Mass Effect series, and the final instalment in the game has droped a lot in my eyes mostly because you will not be handling the soundtrack.

[Burdokva]

Jack Wall wrote...

Dear People Who Love Mass Effect - 
So...maybe it's time to actually say something?

Working on the Mass Effect series was epic. It was mind-bending, soul-coughing, astral-plane traveling delicious loveliness - all the way. The games themselves are works of art. I wouldn't change one note of it that myself, Sam, David, Richard or Jimmy wrote. As you may have noticed by now, I am not returning to score the final game. The reasons are much too complicated to explain here, but suffice to say that the people at BioWare and I are still friends and we all really still like each other a lot. More importantly, the score for ME3 will be great and even more important than that, the game will liikely be (being BioWare and all) super duper fantastic. 
Clint Mansell is cool. Enjoy.
Oh and thanks to everyone for the kind words here and over the years. For those of you who didn't say nice things, that's cool too. I'm still searching for the perfect chord. If you guys see it laying around, let me know, ok?
See you in another game in another crazy universe!

-Jack

I'm even sadder now that you're not scoring the final chapter. Thank you and the awesome team for making two of the finest and most original game soundtracks I've heard! Best of luck in future endeavors! 

Well, I guess all we can do now is give full support to Mr.Clint Mansell and hope he'll make a fantastic final Mass Effect soundtrack. 

Modifié par Burdokva, 10 février 2011 - 09:48 .

[Ulzeraj]

TheBestclass wrote...
Am I the only one who thought that ME1's ending credits song was just awful?
It sounds like that 80's song at the end of Napoleon Dynamite.

I find your lack of appreciation for the 80's cyberpunkish music disturbing. Never watched Blade Runner? Never heard a  Front 242 music?

Pacifien wrote...

Should note the song existed before it was ME1's ending credits song. Faunts' M4.

The band does a pretty good job. I've listened to the "M4 part I" and liked it.

adam_grif wrote...

And hey, Uprising even has the oldschool scifi synth all through it!

Why the hell I had the impression that I heard a similar tune on Billy Idol's White Wedding?

Mr.Kusy wrote...

I'm all fine with this, but I swear to god, if I'll hear Requiem for a Dream theme one more time...
Actualy, I'm not excited unless Ennio Morricone does the music. We can talk then.

Signed. EVerytime I hear that music I want to run in desperation. Not even Smoke on the Water was so overused.

About Ennio Morricone... The Sad Hill duel theme at the end of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly was pure gold. If you think that Clint Eastwood is Shepard and Lee Van Cleef as Saren...


@ahem... about the topic.

Jack Wall wrote...

Dear People Who Love Mass Effect - 
So...maybe it's time to actually say something?

Working
on the Mass Effect series was epic. It was mind-bending, soul-coughing,
astral-plane traveling delicious loveliness - all the way. The games
themselves are works of art. I wouldn't change one note of it that
myself, Sam, David, Richard or Jimmy wrote. As you may have noticed by
now, I am not returning to score the final game. The reasons are much
too complicated to explain here, but suffice to say that the people at
BioWare and I are still friends and we all really still like each other a
lot. More importantly, the score for ME3 will be great and even more
important than that, the game will liikely be (being BioWare and all)
super duper fantastic. 
Clint Mansell is cool. Enjoy.
Oh and
thanks to everyone for the kind words here and over the years. For those
of you who didn't say nice things, that's cool too. I'm still searching
for the perfect chord. If you guys see it laying around, let me know,
ok?
See you in another game in another crazy universe!

-Jack

The 2 Mass Effect games would not be so great without the amazing work of everyone involved on Soundtrack. I know it is... I have bought all the tracks from iTunes. People like it... and nobody ever complained. Heck if there is something that people never complained about ME2 it is the soundtrack. From time to time some thread appears on this forums suggesting that $random_artist should create ME3 soundtrack followed by 30 replies of "Jack Wall is good. Keep it". I don't know about this new guy... but hey I would not mess with something that works.

Anyway... just wanted to tell you that I do appreciate your work on both games. You and everyone involved even those that didnt had their names on the credits like the guys from Eternity and Afterlife background tracks.

Modifié par Ulzeraj, 10 février 2011 - 10:01 .

[CannotCompute]

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

I hope Bioware proves me wrong with Mass Effect 3, I really do but it's not a good start so far, multiplayer, story seems generic and no Jack Wall composing the OST.

Wow, you're quite the pessimist. We don't know much yet about the story and the multiplayer aspect might just be a false rumor.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

Sign #1138 that they're more focused with making ME3 an action game over a deep sci-fi game. 'Nuff said.

Quite the contrary, actually.

[Had-to-say]

Clint Who?

Modifié par Had-to-say, 10 février 2011 - 09:53 .

[kidbd15]

Thank you Mr. Jack Wall... Your score on both ME1 and 2 were amazing. I truly hoped you would come back in some capacity to finish off the trilogy, at least as a correspondent working together with Clint. I wish you the best of luck in future endeavors.

[Prism]

I guess if Jack Wall is not going to do the soundtrack, Clint Mansell is about the next best thing. Thank you sir for the masterpieces that were are the ME & ME2 soundtracks.

[StElmo]

This better not be anything like his previous scores. Film scores are not game scores. As much as fanatics for "epicness" want film scores in games, it's not the same medium. It works completely differently. Mr. Mansell better have me wanting to tear apart every reaper on planet earth ever second of combat, otherwise I will tire.



Seeing as Jack clearly can't do the score for this game for whatever reason, here is what must happen:



* Previous Mass Effect music MUST appear in this game to retain cohesiveness. Particularly tracks that fans will recognise.



* Mansell must compose DRIVING and BUILDING combat music, with the familiar feel of Synth/Orchestra we all know and love.



* Emotional music must be escapist. There is no "love songs" in mass effect, there is "love music". It's atmospheric, it's deep and it's profound. It is NOT, some obvious composition using the string section with a bit of horns to boot.



* The music mustn't be cheap. There is no room for a bad track with no hook in the mass effect series. You practically need 80% of the tracks to be excellent and 20% good, particularly in terms of build and dynamism. Any crappy "black key" (in other words, LAZY) compositions in the music is intolerable, It might work for movies, but it doesn't work for games. You can't just have a track that sounds as if you decided to forget about "the hook" and play it out on black keys alone.



Sorry I had to use caps, not sure how to bold words on this forum

[Ulzeraj]

AwesomeName wrote...

Ulzeraj wrote...

I like Jack Wall's work. The new guy may be good and all but WHY DID YOU BIOWARIANS MESSED WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS WORKING?

What makes you think Bioware is to blame here?  Maybe Jack Wall didn't want to come back, and Bioware had no choice but to find someone to fill his place.

And Clint Mansell is good, so very, very good.

I was not trying to point fingers. Just... sad because ME/ME2 soundtracks were good and now we got a new guy.

Just fear that the new soundtrack will be some overdramatic classic stuff. Damn I love the Blade Runner influences. We don't need a Richard Wagner on ME3.

Modifié par Ulzeraj, 10 février 2011 - 10:07 .

[Had-to-say]

AwesomeName wrote...

Ulzeraj wrote...

I like Jack Wall's work. The new guy may be good and all but WHY DID YOU BIOWARIANS MESSED WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS WORKING?

What makes you think Bioware is to blame here?  Maybe Jack Wall didn't want to come back, and Bioware had no choice but to find someone to fill his place.

And Clint Mansell is good, so very, very good.

He is super talented. I love his music. I love the movie Moon. But I hope Mr. Mansell follows the recipe.

[Remus Artega]

AwesomeName wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

Good manners...you wouldn't say he sucks I was better... He has to say something about his replacement no matter his personal feelings...and I don't feel any exxagerated enthusiasm behind "he is cool"

Of course he wouldn't say that, but again, he didn't have to say anything all i.e. he could've said nothing.  You're acting as if he was contractually obliged to talk about Mansell.

Besides, it just seems highly unlikely that Jack Wall would not like Mansell - how many composers actually dislike his work for something like The Fountain? 

He was making something... treat it for years. He probably had a vision in which way the music will evolve and has been separated (sacked?) for unclear circumstances. He undobtedly respect his (Mansells) work and said that just for showing some respect and good manners but don't look for anything else behind it...

And I just hope that Clint doesn't take his little journey into videogame composing too lightly as some vacation from serious movie stuff

Modifié par Remus Artega, 10 février 2011 - 10:08 .

[Ciupy]

Jack Wall wrote...

Dear People Who Love Mass Effect - 
So...maybe it's time to actually say something?

Working on the Mass Effect series was epic. It was mind-bending, soul-coughing, astral-plane traveling delicious loveliness - all the way. The games themselves are works of art. I wouldn't change one note of it that myself, Sam, David, Richard or Jimmy wrote. As you may have noticed by now, I am not returning to score the final game. The reasons are much too complicated to explain here, but suffice to say that the people at BioWare and I are still friends and we all really still like each other a lot. More importantly, the score for ME3 will be great and even more important than that, the game will liikely be (being BioWare and all) super duper fantastic. 
Clint Mansell is cool. Enjoy.
Oh and thanks to everyone for the kind words here and over the years. For those of you who didn't say nice things, that's cool too. I'm still searching for the perfect chord. If you guys see it laying around, let me know, ok?
See you in another game in another crazy universe!

-Jack

Wow.

Umm,thank you so much for your hard (and wonderful I might add) work you did on this  series so far.

You and Sam Hullick gave a distinct feel to the Mass Effect universe that really helped it feel alien and wondrous.

I really hope that you didn't part ways with BioWare on bad terms and that you will be indeed composing themes for other BioWare games and beyond.

Best of luck!

[Funker Shepard]

Well, Mass Effect 1 had the best score I ever expect to meet in ANY combined medium, whether TV, Movie or Game. It managed to pull off a fusion of orchestral and electronic in a way I've never really seen before, and was a massive part in making the game so good (and atmospheric!).



Unfortunately, I think that some of this was lost in ME2... I think it was still very good, but not quite as good as the original, and additionally somewhat shifted genres into being a more traditionally (almost completely) orchestral score. There were still some standouts, but generally the best parts were recycled ME1 themes and Vigil's theme for ME1 love interests...



So, I'm at the same time sad to see Jack Wall and his team go, but on the other hand I think that if anyone can pull off the orchestral/electronic fusion ME games IMO NEED, it's going to be Clint Mansell. I just hope that the crucial cues (again, main title, Vigil etc.) are not forgotten.

[Kolos2]

very disappointed but not suprised, it was hinted many times that bioware is moving away from ME sound theme we all know and Jack Wall; to a more mainstream soundtrack



Jack did a superb work, hell not many soundtracks refere so strongly to a game,

[Fredvdp]

I had a feeling from an old podcast interview that Jack Wall wanted to move on. I still hope Sam Hulick is co-composing or at least composing the DLC. I have faith in Clint Mansell but I sincerely hope he uses some of the old Mass Effect themes.
At least we now know a likely candidate to compose the Mass Effect movies.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 10 février 2011 - 10:25 .

[TheNexus]

If this isn't a clue that ME3 is going to be really damn dark and we might not beat the Reapers, I don't know what is.