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[Had-to-say]

MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE LIKE THIS!!!!!!

Modifié par Had-to-say, 10 février 2011 - 10:34 .

[Fredvdp]

I also think it's unlikely that they would hire a film composer to do a video game soundtrack and not give him any assistance from someone in the field. VG soundtracks have to play in a loop, something a film composer is not used to. I still think it's possible that one of the composers of Mass Effect, like Sam Hulick, will return.

[Tirranek]

Just to get it off my chest, should have totally been Christopher Franke




- 7:45 practically IS Legion's theme

&



8:33 - Has pretty much been the ME3 climax music for me since 2 came out hehe

Modifié par Tirranek, 10 février 2011 - 10:45 .

[nov_pl]

I'm afraid of this.
I want good old themes like Galaxy Map and the original theme to be used in ME3, but what if he's gonna make everything from scratch...?
I think Clint should talk with us, community a little bit, or at least guys from BW should tell him how important for us are old tunes from ME1.

Also

If we're talking about who should make music to ME3 IMO it is Hans Zimmer or Two Steps From Hell.

I strongly believe however in mr. Mansell, hopefully hes music will add even more epicness to the whole jurney.

Modifié par nov_pl, 10 février 2011 - 10:51 .

[darknoon5]

If him and Jack Wall are both involved, I'll die of joy.

The music Mansell did for moon (I own the main theme), and of course Requiem for a dream, is amazing, but Jack Wall also has mde some epic music.

Modifié par darknoon5, 10 février 2011 - 10:57 .

[Remus Artega]

AwesomeName wrote...

nov_pl wrote...

I'm afraid of this.
I want good old themes like Galaxy Map and the original theme to be used in ME3, but what if he's gonna make everything from scratch...?
I think Clint should talk with us, community a little bit, or at least guys from BW should tell him how important for us are old tunes from ME1.

Also

If we're talking about who should make music to ME3 IMO it is Hans Zimmer or Two Steps From Hell.

I strongly believe however in mr. Mansell, hopefully hes music will add even more epicness to the whole jurney.

I don't see why he would - he didn't disregard Tchaikovsky's "Swan Lake" when he was doing the score for "Black Swan" - so why would he do any less for ME3?  I agree, though, it would be completely ace  if he came on here to talk with us.

No matter how good Jack Wall is, he is no Tchaikovsky...

[Epantiras]

It's sad to read that Jack Wall won't be involved in ME3, but Mansell is a great composer, it gives me hope that he's flexible enough to compose a soundtrack consistent with the Mass Effect style.

[Terror_K]

I just hope this didn't happen because EA/BioWare simply wanted a "big name composer" more as a publicity stunt to garner attention. That's the cynic in my speaking I know, but the circumstances surrounding Jack's leaving being incredibly vague just strikes me as... odd. It could very well be personal reasons, which is fair enough, and I can understand why he may not want to elaborate further if that's the case. But it could also be because he was simply encouraged to step aside or something because they wanted a "big name" or he didn't fit in with where they wanted to take Mass Effect muscially for the third game, etc.



I dunno... I have to admit to always fearing the worst and looking at things more from the negative side of things than the positive one, but that's just due to experience.

[Babli]

AwesomeName wrote...

nov_pl wrote...

I'm afraid of this.
I want good old themes like Galaxy Map and the original theme to be used in ME3, but what if he's gonna make everything from scratch...?
I think Clint should talk with us, community a little bit, or at least guys from BW should tell him how important for us are old tunes from ME1.

Also

If we're talking about who should make music to ME3 IMO it is Hans Zimmer or Two Steps From Hell.

I strongly believe however in mr. Mansell, hopefully hes music will add even more epicness to the whole jurney.

I don't see why he would - he didn't disregard Tchaikovsky's "Swan Lake" when he was doing the score for "Black Swan" - so why would he do any less for ME3?  I agree, though, it would be completely ace  if he came on here to talk with us.

Did he made some music for video game before? We have seen some respectable movie composers doing music for videogames and threated it as second-class project.

There just must be old themes. If ME 3 is without Vigil, Spectre Induction, Galaxy Map, Main Theme, Normandy Reborn, Illusive Man theme etc then he can do the most epic score ever but I still be dissapointed. Consistency is important. Very important.

Anyway, Vangelis would be better if we talk about movie composers. And I hope that Wall of Sound will make return.

[Fredvdp]

darknoon5 wrote...

If him and Jack Wall are both involved, I'll die of joy.

Jack Wall said a couple of pages back that he's not involved.

[darknoon5]

Fredvdp wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

If him and Jack Wall are both involved, I'll die of joy.

Jack Wall said a couple of pages back that he's not involved.

Sadface.
Oh well, I'm sure Clint wil be able to make some stunning music as well, though it will definetly be different seeing as Jack Wall composed both the first two games soundtracks iirc.

[Captain Iglo]

I think a possible reason why Clint is taking over is because he might be doing the Soundtrack for the Movie(s) too.

[DramaChris92]

adam_grif wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

I'd rather have Faunts.

I'd rather have Muse and Dream Theater tag-teaming with the ghost of Freddie Mercury for the soundtrack, but we can't always get what we want.

Muse <33 

[CroGamer002]

Pacifien wrote...

TheBestclass wrote...
Am I the only one who thought that ME1's ending credits song was just awful?
It sounds like that 80's song at the end of Napoleon Dynamite.

They were very obviously going for an 80s era vibe, as was the whole soundtrack.

It grew on me.

Should note the song existed before it was ME1's ending credits song. Faunts' M4.

That song is awesome.

[Terror_K]

Captain Iglo wrote...

I think a possible reason why Clint is taking over is because he might be doing the Soundtrack for the Movie(s) too.

God, I hope not. I'd hate to think Jack got bumped because somebody at EA or something suddenly went, "we need a proper Hollywood musician for the movie, and we want them to do the final game too."

I was really hoping that if there was actually going to be a (decent) movie that Jack would actually go on to compose for that as well, but now given that he's not involved with the final chapter of the game even that looks really unlikely.

Modifié par Terror_K, 10 février 2011 - 11:16 .

[Remus Artega]

AwesomeName wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

nov_pl wrote...

I'm afraid of this.
I want good old themes like Galaxy Map and the original theme to be used in ME3, but what if he's gonna make everything from scratch...?
I think Clint should talk with us, community a little bit, or at least guys from BW should tell him how important for us are old tunes from ME1.

Also

If we're talking about who should make music to ME3 IMO it is Hans Zimmer or Two Steps From Hell.

I strongly believe however in mr. Mansell, hopefully hes music will add even more epicness to the whole jurney.

I don't see why he would - he didn't disregard Tchaikovsky's "Swan Lake" when he was doing the score for "Black Swan" - so why would he do any less for ME3?  I agree, though, it would be completely ace  if he came on here to talk with us.

No matter how good Jack Wall is, he is no Tchaikovsky...

Well, there you go then.  If Clint Mansell can deliver a good contemporary score that seamlessly interweaves his own modern style with Tchaikovsky's music, then I think he'll do just fine with Wall of Sound's music.

You are of course right...but the point I want to make was that Swan Lake is not Swan Lake w/o Tchaikovski on the other hand Mass Effect is "just" a game and that he could possibly change it if he sees it fit and as I (and Babli) said I fear that he might take this little journey little bit too lightly to put in as much effort as into a movie score...

Modifié par Remus Artega, 10 février 2011 - 11:21 .

[Had-to-say]

Is it ok for one Grammy nominated composer to take inspiration from another Grammy winner? Follow the inspiration of Jan Hammer the guy was golden in the 80's and I hear him in Wall. Please do follow the Wall recipe.

Modifié par Had-to-say, 10 février 2011 - 11:33 .

[adam_grif]

DramaChris92 wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

I'd rather have Faunts.

I'd rather have Muse and Dream Theater tag-teaming with the ghost of Freddie Mercury for the soundtrack, but we can't always get what we want.

Muse <33 

Take a boooowwwww.

[StElmo]

Film soundtracks usually have about 40-50% hit rate with decent tracks.



Mass Effect had about an 80% hit rate with EXCELLENT tracks.



I am really hoping the standard doesn't drop. So far, no one has been able to console me with their Clint Mansell examples. None of it sounds like Mass Effect, not even remotely.

[drwells123]

Jack Wall wrote...

Dear People Who Love Mass Effect - 
So...maybe it's time to actually say something?

Working on the Mass Effect series was epic. It was mind-bending, soul-coughing, astral-plane traveling delicious loveliness - all the way. The games themselves are works of art. I wouldn't change one note of it that myself, Sam, David, Richard or Jimmy wrote. As you may have noticed by now, I am not returning to score the final game. The reasons are much too complicated to explain here, but suffice to say that the people at BioWare and I are still friends and we all really still like each other a lot. More importantly, the score for ME3 will be great and even more important than that, the game will liikely be (being BioWare and all) super duper fantastic. 
Clint Mansell is cool. Enjoy.
Oh and thanks to everyone for the kind words here and over the years. For those of you who didn't say nice things, that's cool too. I'm still searching for the perfect chord. If you guys see it laying around, let me know, ok?
See you in another game in another crazy universe!

-Jack

I've listened to TIM's theme, the End Run, Vigil, David's theme from Overlord, and too many others to name, roughly a gazillion times. It definitely won't be the same without you. Best of luck and lots of fun in your future endeavors.

[drwells123]

StElmo wrote...

Film soundtracks usually have about 40-50% hit rate with decent tracks.

Mass Effect had about an 80% hit rate with EXCELLENT tracks.

Totally agree. There are two types of songs in the ME soundtrack - the ones I've listened to at least two dozen times, and the ones I put on repeat until VLC media player crashed.

[Terror_K]

AwesomeName wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

(..) I'd hate to think Jack got bumped because somebody at EA or something suddenly went, "we need a proper Hollywood musician for the movie, and we want them to do the final game too."
(..)

If that's what's happened, then that would be pretty sucky - but I doubt it's like that.  If they wanted a "proper hollywood musician", then Clint Mansell would be one of the worst choices - most of his scores are for indie films.  He's not a generic hack hollywood composer or anything.

I dunno. All I know is that I just have a really bad feeling about this. To me the entire feel and style of something is very important, and the music in Mass Effect was really large part of that. I really don't like this feeling I'm getting that it's just not going to be the same to me and that Jack's departure --for whatever reason-- is going to be a big blow to the series. The music was always one of my favourite aspects of Mass Effect, and very instrumental (*cough* in setting its entire style, IMO. I just get this sinking sensation that constantly throughout playing Mass Effect 3 I'm going to end up listening to the music and wistfully wishing that Jack had done it.

It'll depend how good a job Clint does in the end, but if it deviates even slightly it'll be just as bad as suddenly changing the art direction and having asari with hair all of a sudden and hanar with eyes, etc. (which is probably the kind of BS that'll happen in the movie, knowing Hollywood these days).

Sorry, but it's hard not to listen to my gut. And right now, my gut doesn't like this. It doesn't like this at all.

StElmo wrote...

I am really hoping the standard doesn't drop. So far, no one has been able to console me with their Clint Mansell examples. None of it sounds like Mass Effect, not even remotely.

Exactly. Mansell's stuff may be well composed and moody, but as I said before none of his tracks exhibit that ethereal and cosmic quality that Jack Wall and his team had to their Mass Effect music. Mansell may be able to do emotion and feeling, but I'm not entirely sure he can pull off that sense of vast wonder and beauty that goes with a good sci-fi track.

Modifié par Terror_K, 10 février 2011 - 11:38 .