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[STG]

thatbwoyblu wrote...

Who cares?

Funny question after 15 pages.

[solstickan]

I'm so happy and sad at the same time. On the one hand I love Mansell; he is one of my favourite composers and he has a lot of potential to make the last chapter even more epic than the two before. On the other Wall is going to be sorely missed. His music really added to the atmosphere in ME1 and ME2 and it would be a shame if the music in ME3 didn't fit at all with the series. I just hope they're keeing the main theme and Uncharted Worlds.

But I have faith in Mansell and I can't wait to hear the soundtrack. At least I can listen to Wall's amazing pieces whenever I want.

[Mister Mida]

*Reads through pages.*

Ah crap. Wall ain't coming back, huh? Well, good luck to you, sir. You and Wall of Sound did a good job and left some big shoes to fill.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 10 février 2011 - 03:40 .

[xI extremist Ix]

I am honestly really excited,

To me it means the game is going to be dark, because that is the type of movies Clint composes.
Look at Requiem for a Dream, Smokin' Aces, Black Swan, The Fountain, and there is an odd ball out with the Wrestler. That movie was awesome.

But, what is going to happen with Jack Wall. If they did that to me I'd feel betrayed.

Mister Mida wrote...

*Reads through pages.*

Ah
crap. Wall ain't coming back, huh? Well, good luck to you, sir. You and
Wall of Sound did a good job and left some big shoes to fill.

Clint has size 17 shoes.

Modifié par xI extremist Ix, 10 février 2011 - 03:40 .

[cachx]

Jack Wall wrote...
Dear People Who Love Mass Effect - 
So...maybe it's time to actually say something?

Working on the Mass Effect series was epic. It was mind-bending, soul-coughing, astral-plane traveling delicious loveliness - all the way. The games themselves are works of art. I wouldn't change one note of it that myself, Sam, David, Richard or Jimmy wrote. As you may have noticed by now, I am not returning to score the final game. The reasons are much too complicated to explain here, but suffice to say that the people at BioWare and I are still friends and we all really still like each other a lot. More importantly, the score for ME3 will be great and even more important than that, the game will liikely be (being BioWare and all) super duper fantastic. 
Clint Mansell is cool. Enjoy.
Oh and thanks to everyone for the kind words here and over the years. For those of you who didn't say nice things, that's cool too. I'm still searching for the perfect chord. If you guys see it laying around, let me know, ok?
See you in another game in another crazy universe!

-Jack

I don't know if this is the real Jack Wall... but still I want to take the oportunity to say "thank you". Mass Effect songs have been on my playlist for years and will be for many more. Really outstanding work.
/salute

[Tamahome560]

He is a god in the music composing industry. I'm shocked by the fact that the Wall of Sound left but I'm more shocked that they got Clint Mansell to replace Wall of Sound. I'm sure his soundtrack for ME3 will be great but he has will be under pressure to live up to what Wall of Sound has achieved in the Mass Effect series as the musical score is a crucial element for a movie/video game. Without it/or with a really bad one the atmosphere will crumble.

[PARAGON87]

After listening to Manzell's work, I'm not so sad anymore. But, we're loosing a great composer.

Jack Wall, you were great doing Mass Effect and it's sequel, and your work will be missed. Thanks for all the great sounds and emotions.

[t-dave]

Saddened to see Jack and Wall of Sound go. They rocked. Two outstanding and very different scores that fit the respective games well. On the off-chance they're still reading, best of luck!



My general fear with switching composers mid-stream is that no matter how good ME3's music is, it might be like the post-John Williams Harry Potter scores. There was nothing wrong with them from a technical perspective, but they never felt quite right to me.



Regarding Mansell... Last night, after the news broke, I listened to Moon, Sahara, and Doom. Those three give me a good feeling about his ability to score action and ambiance. In the absence of Jack & company, I think he's a fine choice.



I'll be crossing my fingers and looking forward to the new sounds.

[Pepper4]

This guy composed Lux Aeterna?

Wow! I am so happy!

I mean, I love Jack Wall and his guys, but this guy is from a completely different scale!

[CamoBadger]

Oh thank you god, my prayers have been answered.



I'm extremely excited to see what Clint brings to the table. I've been hoping that Lux Aeterna or something similar was the end theme to ME3 since I finished ME2. I want my semi or even completely depressing ending please. Give me my apocalyptic horror I expect from the Reapers baby.

[StElmo]

Another issue I have is Mansell is a film composer. Games and film are two utterly different mediums. Games require a much higher consistency of quality and demand musical hooks to keep the player engaged.



Games are an interactive medium, film is passive. Film allows you to have moments where the score doesn't hook, but instead tells a story. While games require a hook AND a story within each track.



Thirdly, I am concerned over the stigma on video games. Film seems to always be considered the most elite medium, I'm afraid a film composer working on a game may not consider the production as important enough to require 100% of their creativity and attention. I guess I have this feeling from the lack of enthusiasm you sometimes see from film actors working in games and so on. That said, Bioware always picks the most enthusiastic and appropriate talent from the film industry.



This is just a concern, I am in no way saying this will be the case, the only way we will know for sure is to purchase ME3 when it comes and out I just want Mansell to remember: to me, this game is better and more important then the original Star Wars, there I said it.

[CamoBadger]

StElmo wrote...

Another issue I have is Mansell is a film composer. Games and film are two utterly different mediums. Games require a much higher consistency of quality and demand musical hooks to keep the player engaged.

Games are an interactive medium, film is passive. Film allows you to have moments where the score doesn't hook, but instead tells a story. While games require a hook AND a story within each track.

Thirdly, I am concerned over the stigma on video games. Film seems to always be considered the most elite medium, I'm afraid a film composer working on a game may not consider the production as important enough to require 100% of their creativity and attention. I guess I have this feeling from the lack of enthusiasm you sometimes see from film actors working in games and so on. That said, Bioware always picks the most enthusiastic and appropriate talent from the film industry.

This is just a concern, I am in no way saying this will be the case, the only way we will know for sure is to purchase ME3 when it comes and out I just want Mansell to remember: to me, this game is better and more important then the original Star Wars, there I said it.

That's definately a concern, but film composers have done video games very successfully before.
For example, Hans Zimmer did Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, Titanic, Pirates of the Carribean, etc, etc.
Then he turned around and composed for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. That soundtrack is abosolutely amazing. It's possible for composers to do both mediums, and do an amazing job in both. I have faith in Mansell's ability to do this soundtrack and make it hit home emotionally when it needs to, as well as pump you up during fighting.

Modifié par CamoBadger, 10 février 2011 - 04:21 .

[habitat 67]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Jack Wall wrote...

Dear People Who Love Mass Effect - 
So...maybe it's time to actually say something?

Working on the Mass Effect series was epic. It was mind-bending, soul-coughing, astral-plane traveling delicious loveliness - all the way. The games themselves are works of art. I wouldn't change one note of it that myself, Sam, David, Richard or Jimmy wrote. As you may have noticed by now, I am not returning to score the final game. The reasons are much too complicated to explain here, but suffice to say that the people at BioWare and I are still friends and we all really still like each other a lot. More importantly, the score for ME3 will be great and even more important than that, the game will liikely be (being BioWare and all) super duper fantastic. 
Clint Mansell is cool. Enjoy.
Oh and thanks to everyone for the kind words here and over the years. For those of you who didn't say nice things, that's cool too. I'm still searching for the perfect chord. If you guys see it laying around, let me know, ok?
See you in another game in another crazy universe!

-Jack

I own both ME1 and ME2 soundtracks. I think your work is amazing and I have very much enjoyed it. Thanks for all your hard work, Jack. You will definitely be missed.

Should someone start a separate thank you thread?

[Pepper4]

CamoBadger wrote...

That's definately a concern, but film composers have done video games very successfully before.
For example, Hans Zimmer did Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, Titanic, Pirates of the Carribean, etc, etc.
Then he turned around and composed for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. That soundtrack is abosolutely amazing. It's possible for composers to do both mediums, and do an amazing job in both. I have faith in Mansell's ability to do this soundtrack and make it hit home emotionally when it needs to, as well as pump you up during fighting.

That's completely true. Boneyard Fly is one of  my favourite game soundtracks.

In addition, Mansell talked in the interview about the elements of gaming soundtrack, so he is aware of the difference between film soundtrack and gaming soundtracks.

[GMulryan]

I have enjoyed the scores for both ME games and Dark Age. Hope it turns out better than that noise for DA2.

[Tryphus]

Most exciting news so far. It's nice to mix it up for this finale. The man has great skill with melodic material and somber harmonies, here's hoping for a great emotional final chapter!

EDIT....is this really my first post? Wow...heh..

Modifié par Tryphus, 10 février 2011 - 04:41 .

[xXSnak3Eat3rXx]

GMulryan wrote...

I have enjoyed the scores for both ME games and Dark Age. Hope it turns out better than that noise for DA2.

Dark Age? DARK Age? Son, I am disappoint.

[Sailears]

Sauronych wrote...

Moon's soundtrack was incredible. I'm sure Mansell will do a great job.

Yes, that gives me confidence.

One things is for sure, more synth!

[StElmo]

CamoBadger wrote...

That's definately a concern, but film composers have done video games very successfully before.
For example, Hans Zimmer did Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, Titanic, Pirates of the Carribean, etc, etc.
Then he turned around and composed for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. That soundtrack is abosolutely amazing. It's possible for composers to do both mediums, and do an amazing job in both. I have faith in Mansell's ability to do this soundtrack and make it hit home emotionally when it needs to, as well as pump you up during fighting.

Fair enough, but as another user above said. Mansell has got some really big shoes to fill. ME1 and ME2 are probably the best game soundtracks of the decade in an industry that's bigger then hollywood. I think people need to let that sink in a little.

This is a big job, with extremely high expectations. He would need to produce his best work, It needs to be better then the quality of his best soundtracks. He can't just pull out one "Lux Aeterna" and be sitting pretty. He doesn't need to just beat the quality of RfaD soundtrack, he literally needs to blow it away.

If ME fanatics aren't listening to 50-80% of the soundtrack on their ipods, on repeat. He will not have done his job.

Just telling it how it is, I really hope Bioware told this guy it's a huge weight on his shoulders.

[MDesigner]

Just wanted to confirm, that post was indeed from Jack Wall, we were just talking about it over email this morning.

Thanks for all the positive comments, you guys. Humbling and heartwarming indeed.

Modifié par MDesigner, 10 février 2011 - 04:44 .

[Phaedon]

MDesigner wrote...

Just wanted to confirm, that post was indeed from Jack Wall, we were just talking about it over email this morning.

Thanks for all the positive comments, you guys. Humbling and heartwarming indeed.

Good luck in all of your future efforts, Sam.

[Babli]

StElmo wrote...
If ME fanatics aren't listening to 50-80% of the soundtrack on their ipods, on repeat. He will not have done his job.

Exactly.

MDesigner wrote...

Just wanted to confirm, that post was indeed from Jack Wall, we were just talking about it over email this morning.

Thanks for all the positive comments, you guys. Humbling and heartwarming indeed.

Thanks for best videogame soundtracks of all time guys. I wish you could return.

Anyway will be there at least some old themes in ME3?

Modifié par Babli, 10 février 2011 - 04:49 .

[Gorescream]

Nah dawg I don't like this,



I just want my Sam Hulick and Jack Wall, now all we're going to get is this overplayed requiem-ish music in the game, not to mention it'll all turn into trailer-ish music, I just want my electronic ME1 Music, sci-fi music! not trailermusic! ugh



/endrant

[Phaedon]

Gorescream wrote...

Nah dawg I don't like this,

I just want my Sam Hulick and Jack Wall, now all we're going to get is this overplayed requiem-ish music in the game, not to mention it'll all turn into trailer-ish music, I just want my electronic ME1 Music, sci-fi music! not trailermusic! ugh

/endrant

I definitely don't miss electronic music. 

[Capeo]

t-dave wrote...

Saddened to see Jack and Wall of Sound go. They rocked. Two outstanding and very different scores that fit the respective games well. On the off-chance they're still reading, best of luck!

My general fear with switching composers mid-stream is that no matter how good ME3's music is, it might be like the post-John Williams Harry Potter scores. There was nothing wrong with them from a technical perspective, but they never felt quite right to me.

Regarding Mansell... Last night, after the news broke, I listened to Moon, Sahara, and Doom. Those three give me a good feeling about his ability to score action and ambiance. In the absence of Jack & company, I think he's a fine choice.

I'll be crossing my fingers and looking forward to the new sounds.

Listen to Requiem for a Dream, Pi, or The Fountain to see what he does when given free reign.  He's unbelievably good.  Especially with the Kronos Quartet.